@ ByufanforlifeWrong. Star never went to BYU. He went to Snow
College for one season, then transferred to Utah.
@ ogmsonUtah has already had a winning record in the PAC; with a
D-II QB no less. Also, Utah's recruiting class has been better the past
few years than ever before. It's hilarious that you would (inaccurately)
cite Utah's inability to recruit as a reason they won't be able to
compete and then claim USU will be a contender in their conf. when they just
grabbed one of the worst recruiting classes in the nation.Your post
is wrong in pretty much every possible way.
McShay is a hack - Mike Maock of the NFL Network is a much better analyst.
Whittingham didn't recruit star, he was a redshirt at byu before he
transferred to Utah
The future of football in Utah:The University of Utah will fall into
obscurity and irrelevance for the next 20 years or until they leave the PAC 10 +
2. There will never be a Rose Bowl nor will the team have another winning record
even if all three games scheduled outside of conference are weak D2 programs or
the Montana and Idaho States of the inter-Mountain West. Dropping BYU and Utah
State will help their record, but not enough to offset the 2-7 or 1-8 Pac 10+2
performance.Utah State Will become relevant and compete consistently
in Conference. Their two decade subpar performance is now a thing of the
past.BYU will continue to be the consistent performer on and off the
field posting regular double digit wins year after year with only an ocassional
8/9 win season sprinkled in. It's too bad for the U too. Had
they not elected to become the door mat of the PAC 10+2, they would have
remained capable of recruiting good players. Not anymore. Quality players want
to play for winning teams...If in doubt just check out the Vandy record for 40
@NK84Good points, both players are a boon to the state. Don't
let Naval get you down, finding things to argue about is a past-time of many
(both U and Y ) commentators.
Naval Vet:I understand that he did once he went to Snow. And chose
to go to Utah instead. My point was that no matter how they ended up at the
schools they went to, they had successful careers so it must have been the right
choice. Stop looking for an argument and comment on the article.
Not what isn't in it. Congratulate them for their accomplishments. Thats
all I was attempting to do.
NK84:But Star DID qualify academically after his time spent at Snow,
and had a scholarship waiting for him in Provo, but he just didn't want to
go there anymore. Star rejected the Y; not the other way around.
Unless I read this incorrectly, it wasn't comparing the 2 schools or the
players involved in it. All of this bickering about who's team is the
future is bull. Star didn't qualify academically when he was coming out of
High School for BYU. So he went to Snow and then to the Utes to have a great
career. Congrats to him. Ziggy didn't even know what football was
and walked on at BYU, and had a great senior year. Congrats to him. Lets focus
on the actual article and congratulate the athletes. That is what the article
Great news for both players. It's too bad they might end up in Kansas City
Ansah reminds me of Pierre-Paul and then I see that comparison made here.
dww722:"2 BCS Bowl wins in 10 years....btw nobody cares"If nobody cared, than nobody -- like ESPN for example -- would have
dubbed the Utes the "Original BCS Buster", and neither would they have
lauded the Utes for having been the 1st BCS Buster to do it again. And clearly,
Y fans care. It really eats away at their sanity and ego."2
losing seasons last 10 years"Utah had only 1 losing season over
the past 10 yrs. You've mistaken your big brother for your own Indy-WACey
program, who over the past 10 yrs finished with 2 losing seasons, and one season
at .500. And had you not jammed your alumni in the Replay Booth back in 2010,
you would have had 3 losing seasons (and one season at .500). Thank you Chad
Bunn."2 bowl no-shows last 10 years"Utah went
8-1 in the postseason (including 2 BCS bowls) over the past 10 yrs. The Y went
6-2. And YOU'RE calling US a "no-show"? What then does that make
you? You have 25% fewer bowl wins than we!
@Bluto: "To avoid BYU's superior academics"? Is BYU
now the MIT of the West?Star's father received a graduate
degree from BYU, so I seriously doubt he raised a son that couldn't handle
"BYU's superior academics". Easy road would have been
if Star left to the NFL last year, instead he stayed and finished his degree.I hope he ends up at KC or if he drops then my 9ers pick him up.
Naval VetBluto and others are desperately trying to justify BYU for
failing to recruit Star by making excuses. Now they're seeing Star as a
potential #1 overall draft pick coming out of Utah not BYU.(Star would be
Utah's second #1 overall draft pick in the last 8 years). BYU has never had
a player go #1 overall in the draft (even during their glory years). We're
witnessing some jealousy from little brother down south! It's amusing
dww722:"2 bottom of the big boy conference last 2 years"One actually. And in both those years, we had you beaten by the 3rd
Qtr, so I wouldn't go there either.What a miserable last
quarter century it's been for you. I wouldn't know what that's
like, but I'd imagine it must be pretty rough.
Bluto:If the Y's academic standards didn't intimidate him
BEFORE Snow when he COULDN'T qualify, why would it intimidate him AFTER
Snow when he actually DID? More frantic and emotional sour grapes
from little brother I see.
@NavalAnd why did Star end up at Snow College, instead of BYU?Because he was not "academically" eligible for BYU.And
when he left Snow College, why did he then go to Utah?To avoid BYU's
superior "academics".He knew that by going to the U, he
would have fewer challenges academically.The "Parable of the
@worfCongrats to the Y their standards. Where's yours?I doubt Star has any regrets.Go Utes.
worf:Nope. Star had an offer to join the cougars coming out of Snow
College, but he chose to play on the Hill anyway. The Y did not reject Star.
Star rejected the Y.
Utes...2 undefeated seasons in 10 years 2 BCS Bowl wins in 10
years....btw nobody cares 2 losing seasons last 10 years
2 bowl no-shows last 10 years 2 bottom of the big boy conference
last 2 years 2 losing seasons in a row coming up Utes definitely trending downward with no change in sightUte boys need
to quit bragging about being in a conference they can't compete inHope y'all enjoyed your 15 minutes of fame..party's over!!
If not for BYUs high academic standards, Star Lotulelei, and Ziggy would be
representing the Cougs.
And I wish they could both go to Da Bears. I hope Star's condition is
properly diagnosed and treated so that he may have a prosperous NFL career. And
I hope Ziggy is an all pro several times before Utah beats BYU again.
I'd like to see both go to the Broncos, along with Kruger. Best of luck to
all three.Go Utes! Go Utes! Go Utes! Go Broncos!
Great to hear, but remember, this is a projection. Either way both players have
a bright future in the NFL. I wish the Seahawks could get either one, but both
will be long gone by the time the Hawks pick. Best of luck to both!
It is nice to see Ziggy doing so well. With the success the BYU "D" had
last season and this season at east they will make it to another bowl game.
Which Utah college has more players in the nfl right now?
Best wishes to both players. I hope the Steelers get one of these players.
Dear Chris, I do believe this could be the 3rd time in ten years with a 1st
round pick.. Despite the.Impressive stats you still have no national
championship. And the future of UtahFootball is a perennial bottom
dweller in the PAC 10 + 2.
Congrats to both. They both worked hard and earned their accolades. Ziggy was
rejected twice before he was accepted as a walk on. Star was also rejected by
byu, went to work moving furniture, enrolled Snow college then finally became a
STAR at Utah.@Utehaterforlife@RTGive it up! We
love our Pac12. Or should I start in again about how the Utes own the cougars on
the field and how jealous and insecure the cougar fans are with their
Teams do not take risks in the top 5. Neither of these players will be in the
I sure would like to know who this Chris B. character is that has so much time
to always write on the DNews boards. Must not have a job. So, Chris, if Star
does sign a contract for millions of dollars, how does that really affect you?
It doesn't, so why get so excited about it. It has no impact on your life.
And if Ansah doesn't go as high as Star, why point it out and rub it in.
It smells of nothing but pathetic schadenfreude.
It's great that we have a couple studs coming from the state of Utah.
Hopefully Star's health ends up being okay. Ansah is stud; kind of reminds
me of a less developed Will Sutton (ASU D line freak). But with more
experience, Ansah could be one of BYU's biggest NFL players.Here's to Star and Ezekiel; good luck guys.
Don't listen to cowboy.In pronouncing Polynesian names you do
not emphasis any syllable,and you enunciate each vowel equally. so lotulelei is pronounced:low-too-lay-lay-eelo-tu-le-le-i
Bronco didn't start Ziggy earlier because he doesn't show well in
practice. That is also what all of the experts were saying in prep for the
Senior Bowl. Nobody knew he would be this good in game situations until he was
You forgot one, christy:Two times in 6 years - embarrassed by
10-loss teams.The future of Utah football is in steady decline.
RT "With all of these star recruits entering the NFL, how do you explain
mediocre seasons and finishing at the bottom of the Pac 12 every year."That has never happened...yet.
A lot of great players being produced by Utah, BYU, and USU in the past few
seasons. Exciting time for football in this state as a whole.
Congrats to both of them, hope they both go top five. Great recognition for the
state as a whole.
I love Star, he such is a tremendous person as well as a great talent. I do
recall, perhaps I am mistaken, and if I am wrong I will surely be corrected by
Ute nation. Was not Star initially going to attend BYU, but for some issues
relating to grades pursued the JC route and ended up at the U a few years later?
With that in mind, we all can find joy and happiness in his success. Correct?
As for Ziggy, my question to Bronco is, "what took you so long to put him in
the starting line up?" If it had not been for an unfortunate injury to a
teammate he would have completed his career running on special teams and helping
some of his fellow players with difficult homework assignments. Kind of sad to
think about how many other Ziggys there are out there having worn the uniform
and not played.
Let's wait on Star's health before declaring him the #1 pick. I wish
he'd worked out as a Cougar, but wish him all the best in succeeding at the
Chris BSalt Lake City, UT"Two times in 10 years with the #1
pick. Two times in 10 years undefeated seasons. Two times BCS games. Two times
BCS wins. The future of football in Utah,is Utah"Chris you're wrong and it's time to start making a play by
your own rules. Everything you cited is in the past and if we're talking
about the PAST in football, in Utah, that's BYU, not even close. If you want to talk about the present of football in Utah, well, you
don't want to talk about that. That would be Utah State. Who BYU beat.
Why are these ute fans always so insecure?
If Star is drafted 1st, lets hope he doesn't embarrass the state like that
other "1st overall" pick. Lol. If some of you are that amused, I
recommend getting out more.
Vladhagen and ji baeI played football with Star in high school and
the emphasis is on the third syllable.
Heart conditions are always extremely serious.See Hank Gathers.I would be stunned if anyone took Star with the #1 pick, with the gloom of his
heart condition hanging out there.He's a family man, some
things are just more important than football.I never saw Star
projected by anyone higher than #3 first round, and that was before his
condition popped up..Good luck to both of them.
If Lotulelei goes to KC with Alex Smith, they should show some games in Utah.
Paul Kruger should go too.Go Big Red!
Yahoo Sports has Star #10 to the Titans and Ziggy #12 to Miami, so Chris B, can
we please hold off on the pontification until draft night? I agree with 54-10,
2 guys from local schools going in the top 15 is great for the state.
@ Chris B As well as the U seeing lots of donations from the three players you
mentioned, so will the LDS church as these three players all pay 10%. Plus,
lets hold off on the #1 pick until it happens. Today on MSN they had Star #15.
These mock drafts are just guesses.
You are all making a big deal about how good the Utah recruiting is. With all
of these star recruits entering the NFL, how do you explain mediocre seasons and
finishing at the bottom of the Pac 12 every year.
@Naval,Save the preaching for church. I believe Star will go on to
make tens of millions and I'm not afraid to state that belief . I'm
making my comments AFTER an incredible career at the U and AFTER many experts
think he'll be drafted high. Stop being so preachy, you sound like a byu
fan.My guess is his heart problem WILL be fixed, it WON'T be a
serious issue, and he'll sign a HUGE contract. Go UTES!
Vladhagen'The ESPN people seemed very shaky in pronouncing
Star's surname. Obviously they have no consultants telling them how to say
the name Lotulelei. Emphasis on third syllable.'And I was told
the emphasis was on the 2nd syllable, but other relatives say it the way you
@ Naval Vet Well put! I absolutely agree with all that you said.
Especially the "Let's leave all those proverbial "September
national shampionships" accolades to our WAC-wannabe neighbors to the
south."Too funny that was...and good luck to Star as well. Go Utes!
So Chris BWith all those donations, what will that do for the Ute program,
will it be another year at home watching bowl games?
Chris B:Lotulelei is not making ANYTHING right now. Wait until
if/when he gets drafted first before putting him on that list of successful
fmr-Ute NFL players. I read the article. I know what it says about Star
getting drafted in the 1st round, but that was just Todd McShay's
"opinion". As of right now, despite one of ESPN's draft experts
calling for him to be the #1 Draft pick -- which would be awesome by the way --
Star still DOES have that issue regarding his health that COULD impact his draft
position...or whether or not he'll be drafted at all.Let's
leave all those proverbial "September national shampionships" accolades
to our WAC-wannabe neighbors to the south. If you're a Ute fan, you need
to do your celebrating AFTER the game had been played, AFTER a top recruit
signed his LOI, and AFTER Draft Day's conclusion.Good luck
I'll be a fan of whatever teams draft these two players
The ESPN people seemed very shaky in pronouncing Star's surname. Obviously
they have no consultants telling them how to say the name Lotulelei. Emphasis on
Is first better than fifth?
Bottom line is Kiper has over reacted to Star's "condition" and
Ansah's combine. If Everything checks out with Star, is there any reason
Ansah should ever be drafted above Star? Even if Ansah fills a position of need,
Ansah over Star is ridiculous.
I would love Ziggy to go to my Lions!
With all these Utes making tens of millions(Krueger, Weddle, Lotulelei...) Chris
Hill can expect to see some very significant donations in the coming years, as
Weddle has already done!Go Utes!
Add another guy Whittingham recruited and got drafted.Saban also has
many.So does Les MilesSo does Gary PattersonSo does Steve
SpurrierSo does Chris PetersonGary Anderson even has a few.Guess which local coach hasn't recruited and had drafted a single
player?And no, Ziggy doesn't change that. Ziggy had to ask to
join. With that recrod of Bronco Mendenhall, Ziggy should be thankful bronco
didn't recruit him!Go make your millions Star! Making Ute
Nation even prouder!
Two times in 10 years with the #1 pick. Two times in 10 years undefeated
seasons. Two times BCS games. Two times BCS wins. The future of
football in Utah,is Utah
2 guys from local schools going in the top 15 of the NFL draft wwould be great.
Good luck to both of them.