Navel, Chris, and all the other Ute fans. Here is what myself, and all the
other BYU fans on this site wonder. If the PAC12 is so great, and your team is
so great, and BYU is so beneath you, and you all have moved on to greener
pastures, then why come on to BYU articles, on a BYU leaning newspapers site,
and spew your hatred. I read Utah articles, and I fail to see the need to
comment on them. There are also several Ute fans who are gracious to BYU on our
articles. We welcome them and their comments. But if you truly hate BYU and
all that it stands for, save yourself, and us, time by not posting. I would not
have to waste time skipping over your awesome posts, and your blood pressure
will go down. If the Utes have moved on, and are out of our league,
then by all means, move on. Move on completely. If however you are a fan of
Utah sports in general, then by all means, keep posting. Like I say when I
post, Go UTAH, Go BYU, unless Utah is playing BYU, then GO BYU.
To Naval Vet:Look back over all the comments on BYU sports articles.
It's ALWAYS the troll Ute fans who bring up the PAC 10.2 issue. It's
never BYU fans. They only respond. Seriously, why would anyone with any personal
pride at all brag about being in whatever conference, if all they do year-in and
year-out is fight to stay out of it's basement? Sadly, that's all the
U has done since joining the PAC 10.2. You would be better off being competitive
in the Big Sky conference than being a cellar-dweller in a competitive
conference. It's much, much better being an independent who plays on
an ESPN national stage almost every week, plus going to and winning bowl games 4
years in a row, than being in a big conference where you get embarrassed almost
every time you play on regional tv and can no longer qualify for any bowl game.
It's no wonder your sense of what seems to be "funny stuff" is a
bit warped. What really seems funny stuff is having a cellar dweller fan speak
as a representative of what his conference does or doesn't want.
panamadesnews:"The bottom line is, the PAC 12 doesn't want
BYU and BYU doesn't want the PAC 12. Why do you keep beating this dead
horse."Correction: The bottom line is, the PAC 12 doesn't
want BYU. Period. All that "BYU doesn't want the PAC 12" nonsense
is just sour grapes over being "Fully Rejected" by their 1st choice of
conferences, so give it up. Everybody already knows. Why do you Indy-WACers
keep beating this dead horse.
IRS Agent:"@ Chris B...Do you work for the Pac 12 now?"I don't think he does, but his 2 points were valid. I agree with
him that (1) the Pac-12 would never call the Indy-WACers respecting potential
membership, and (2) that Holmoe never prefer independent mid-majoreyness to
Pac-12 (or Big 12 for that matter) membership.Which part(s) of his
point did you disagree with? That the Pac-12 won't call Holmoe? Or that
Holmoe would decline an invitation?
Danish American:"People who are always critical of something is
because of one or two things. Number 1: They are jealous. Number 2: They are
actually in love with the thing they are so critical of."Your
forgetting about the possibility of Number 3. That's where we love
rattling your cage and watching you all go nuts. Very fun/funny stuff.
Chris B: If the Pac 12 offerred BYU, if would be based on BYU agreeing to
Sunday play, no BYUtv, and whatever else BYU would never agree to. The bottom
line is, the PAC 12 doesn't want BYU and BYU doesn't want the PAC 12.
Why do you keep beating this dead horse. Get over it, BYU is very happy, and
also our fans all over the world, to be an independent. We are free to make our
own decisions and are not dictated to by a conference. If we ever do ACCEPT
conference alignment, it will be on our terms or it will not happen. Bottom
Cal Cougar: It only favors BYU if they can extend the downs, rather than go 3
and out. Otherwise, the opposing D doesn't stay on the field as long. If
BYU uses the up-tempo and the opposing team does not, BYU's defense will be
on the field longer, unless it can extend the plays - meaning GET FIRST DOWNS!
I hope they can get more first downs than all of their opponents - if so they
will win most of those games. Go BYU!
@ Down underYou still feeling jealous about our Pac-12 membership?
Dude, it's been almost 3 years since Utah got invited. Get over it! BYU would do the same thing if they got invited to join a prestigious
conference. But that will never happen.
Just got back from a trip to California and I didnt see one Pac12 sticker
anywhere.....except a 1960's travel trailer with a Utah License plate broke
down on the freeway outside Baker.....Go Utes!
nhatch82,SPOT ON. I live in the middle of PAC 10.2 country and noone
else touts their membership as much as Crissy; - Little or no PAC 12 bumper
stickers, no banners, no window clings. They just focus on winning. Since Utah
can't do that they must thump their chests on their membership in the
conference. Let me tell you this; Utah's name is very seldom mentioned
around the water cooler or in discussions about who's who in the
Chris B,"Are you serious? You're telling us if the Pac 12
called Holmoe(we won't) and offered a spot, Holmoe would say "no
thanks, we're have way too much fun losing to utah, boise, texas, Notre
Dame, and Oregon State" on ESPN?"We Won't? Seriously?
Did you just say WE? As in, you are in the PAC12 making that call with the
other School admins? Really? Dude, I know you love BYU and need to comment on
our boards first usually, but dude, reality check. You are not in the PAC12.
You are not making the decisions for the Utes or the PAC12. The schools and the
admins are. BYU doesn't hate you, even though you think you hate them.
It's all good man. If the PAC12 invited BYU, they might go, if Sunday play
is off the table. Same as the Big12. Those are the only 2 leagues BYU would
join. Are BYU fans ok with Independence? Sure, if we get a great schedule every
year. This year is a great year. Have a great day, and unless they
play each other, BO BYU and UTAH. If they play each other, GO BYU!
chris b you actually think the Yewts will beat Byu. Dreamland Chris b. And as
goo.g to the pack 12 would get you a better chance at a national title not. With
the pkayoff system coming your out of luck Kris b
@ Chris B. I believe BYU has a totally unique mission compared with any secular
university. It's athletic programs likewise. Not to disparage the Pac 12 or
any other conference but belonging to a conference isn't needed for BYU to
fulfill its purpose which is related to the LDS church's mission! BYU seeks
exposure and yes winning games helps with its exposure as much as it helps with
at least some parts of the overall mission of the LDS church which is missionary
work and building up the church worldwide. Along with worldwide exposure BYU is
uniquely capable of educating in a unique way, hence the honor code and strict
admission standards, mandatory religion classes, etc.. Agree with it or not, BYU
is unique in the world of higher education institutions. In other words,
especially at BYU, athletics are a means to a higher end and not the end itself.
The cynic may say its all about money but THE mission of BYU is to prefect
(educate the saints) and spread the gospel all over the world. And being on
national TV every game is quite effective!
@ Chris B (obsessing over all things BYU since 1995)"Are you
serious? You're telling us if the Pac 12 called Holmoe(we
won't)..."Do you work for the Pac 12 now? Congrats on the
promotion. I know you are giddy with "your" PAC12 success. We love your
BCS membership. Now that you have dominated the Southern Division, it's
onward and upward to the Rose Bowl. There's no stopping you now - mark it
down!I can't wait to see which post season basketball
tournament you get invited to. I will be cheering on the Runnin' Utes (or
is it the Runnin'-out-of-excuses Utes)?
Chris B you should maybe worry about your own team having a winning year before
you worry about how BYU will perform. The utes were just as pathetic last year,
5-7 no bowl game remember? Yes you are in the PAC 12 congrats we have seen your
window stickers all over your cars, which in my opinion is the most pathetic
thing I have ever seen. You don't see other pac 12 teams have pac 12
logo's. they have thier team logo's. you guys are more giddy about
being in the PAC 12 than winning any games. The utes have been abismal in that
league you can barely beat colorado and the year before you helped break their
streak of 12000 straight road losses. congrats! go troll somewhere else. losing
record again this year buddy. mark it down!
Mark this down: People who are always critical of something is because of one
or two things. Number 1: They are jealous. Number 2: They are actually in
love with the thing they are so critical of. I'm actually hoping that the
U does better in both football and basketball so Chris B isn't so worried
and infatuated with BYU. Also remember the old Indian saying: The empty wagon
@MountainMan,Are you serious? You're telling us if the Pac 12
called Holmoe(we won't) and offered a spot, Holmoe would say "no
thanks, we're have way too much fun losing to utah, boise, texas, Notre
Dame, and Oregon State" on ESPN?LOL!
I'm back to drinking the kool-aid. I didn't jump off the BYU train
last year, but I was admittedly worried about the state of the offense. I am not
any more. There will be some growing pains in putting the offense in place, but
it will click pretty quick imo. Simpler plays at a higher pace equals lots of
success for the Cougs. Mark it down!!
"I know his personality pretty well. I know one moment he can be pretty laid
back and calm, then flip a switch and be pretty fiery," Munns said of Anae.
"But that's what we need. You need that fire and someone who's
going to call you out and make sure you're doing your best. I'm
excited to have him back."Bring the fire! Go Cougs!
To complainers about Coach Mendenhall, I recall that Lavell Edwards was first
and foremost a defensive guy (DC before HC). He was also recognized by everyone
as a hands-off coach. He brought in good talent as his assistants and gave them
free rein.Hold off judgment on the coaching until we see the fruits
in the fall.
Being on national T.V. EVERY game is better than being in the Pac 12, win or
Since 2010, we’ve gone 7-6, 10-3 & 8-5 against less than a stellar
schedule. Last season was a formidable schedule and this season will be even
stronger. I just don’t see the football program advancing to the level it
should, and the head-coach has to take full responsibility. I don’t see a
lot of personal responsibility by Coach Bronco. He’s totally hands-off the
offense. He’s one of the best DC’s in the country, but that’s
not what our team needs. Remember Cougs, Holmoe talks all about
BCS-respectability. 2010-2012 isn’t getting us there. BCS-respectability
means advancing the program beyond merely "we all now how unique BYU is and
how the program is preparing the athletes beyond "just" football." I
love the school. My kids have attended and graduated from there. Let's
ratchet up the football program. I hope Anae, et. al, is the anwer on offense.
Perhaps he's the next "coach in waiting."
BYU against defenses ranked below #50 in 2012: 44 PPG, 6-0 record.BYU
against defenses ranked above #50 in 2012: 14 PPG, 1-5 record.In
other words, BYU's offense is only good when it's facing a bad
defense.Seems to me that rather than trying to fix a broken offense,
it would be easier to just line up a bunch of bad defenses. The good news is it
looks like that's exactly what Bronco is trying to do.
Interesting choice of words by the head-coach: "Said Mendenhall:
"It's probably the hardest our collective team has worked since
I've been the coach. The demand was really high. It was a typical first day
in terms of lack of execution. That tempo, with that demand, with a new system,
the offense certainly has a long ways to go in terms of execution, but it's
the hardest they've tried since I can remember."So,
it's the hardest the collective team has played since he's taken over
the team. Why did it take him entering his 9th year as head coach to get to this
point? Also, he refers to the offense as "they"? I
didn't read one "we" in the article. I go back to the point that
the Cougs need a stronger, more dynamic "head-coach."
Fast offense, means more plays for both defenses. That favors BYU with the
quality of the defense. It also is a more entertaining brand of football.
That favors BYU with their contracts with ESPN. Anae will give us
at least a decent offense. His experience and demeanor to steady the ship
during tight spots in the fourth quarter, will be night and day from Doman.
Mental mistakes in big games were epidemic during the Doman years. Doman in my
opinion had some genious, but not the personality to coach. He was too
nervous. That played out in the unsteady nature of the plays during tight
spots in the game. Hence, our local detractor's comments which often
contains elements of the truth although one sided and caustic.
Chris B - Why do U point out that BYU was .200 against ranked teams when Utah
was 0% against ranked teams? Yes, 0%. At least find a stat that makes U look
good. There is no argument from BYU fans that the offense was
pathetic last year, that's why we brought in a whole new O coaching staff.
I'm excited Anae is bringing in an up-tempo style and not just the same old
scheme he ran in 2010 and before. This means he is trying to be innovative.In the 70's, BYU was one of only a few schools to implement a
passing attack that changed college football. Today there are only a couple of
schools that effectively run an up-tempo offense - Oregon does it best.
Hopefully we can capitalize on it.
I love the "mark it down". Historically, whenever she says that
it's a real good indication that the opposite will happen.Should we "mark down" a 3rd consecutive year "bottom third to
basement" reservation in the PAC for the mighty Utes while we're
marking? How about marking down Kyle Whittingham's final year on the hill
before being relieved of duties? Any chance of that happening?We
could "mark down" the Runnin' (ha, now that's a good one)
Ute's consecutive "bringing up the PAC rear" basketball finishes
but then again there isn't any speculation to that conclusion.
With bronco's .200 record against ranked teams this year, I wonder which
one significant game byu will win this year?Utah - nope, Utah
seniors will get the 4-0 embarassing sweepBoise - unlikelyWisconsin
- Gary Anderson will roll byuTexas - Texas all dayNotre Dame - I
know wheere my money isBetween Georgia Tech, Nevada, Virginia,
Houston, and Utah State you'll probably go 2-3 or 3-2.0% chance
byu wins more than 2 of the "significant" '5 games mentions above,
and most likely you'll go 1-4. And if the past several years are any
indication(and they usually are, it won't be the Utah game you'll
win). Mark it down.
We should be totally up tempo this year. Lot of excitement and points too.
We won't know how good these guys are until the Texas game.
Mildred, You are on the wrong post. That's the comment for the Utes,
With our new offense, we should average about 35 points per game.
Almost anything would look fast compared to Heaps steady delay-of-game penalties
and slow snap count and Riley's time looking over the defense to decide
where he was going to run with it. I'm looking forward to seeing about 30%
more offensive plays a game. Too bad last year they wasted the best defense in
the history of the school. Even an average offense last year would have been
rewarding compared with what was on the field.In a positive light,
this year should be better.
It's great to once again experience the excitement of Spring camp.
Here's hoping for no injuries and a fast transition with the new coaches
and offense.Go Cougars!