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Published: Tuesday, March 5 2013 6:00 a.m. MST

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Dektol
Powell, OH

It is only natural the Governor does not respect voters - they elected HIM to office.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

They went nuts over the loser in the Presidential campaign.

milner
Centerfield Sanpete, UT

I`m glad he expresses his views not always saying or thinking the way that the Republicans party does!

Emajor
Ogden, UT

"He recently suggested that a Republican under investigation for a potential federal crime could still defeat a qualified Democratic candidate for statewide office."

He is just admitting reality with that statement. I think it is less that the governor disrespects voters, and more that Utah voters disrespect themselves.

EDM
Castle Valley, Utah

Good article.

EMajor, you're right on. Utahns have a really bad habit of voting against their own interests time after time.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

I agree that it would be nice to have some more diversity in state government - however I am not going to vote for someone whose ideas I disagree merely to get it. The national Democratic Party has been so co-opted by extremists that the local Democratic Party can no longer compete. That is not the Republican Party’s’ fault - however arguing that it is; simply insures that even fewer Democrats will be elected in Utah. Democrats - not Republicans need to modify their message if they want to be elected - blaming the voters for Democrat failure to make a dent in the Republican majority shows an incredible lack of respect for democracy in general.

Beverly
Eden, UT

The two party system works well in the United States. I only wish we had a two party system that worked well in Utah. The Governor is correct when he questions the reality that even a person under suspension of committing federal crimes can be elected. - as long as they are "conservative Republicans." The unquestioned commitment to voting for ultra conservative Republicans - no matter what, is a serious problem for the State of Utah.
I support Governor Herbert's intelligent approach to this issue, as well as his thoughtful approach to Gun Control legislation. The "far right" is attacking him for spurious reasons. As Republicans, we need to support moderate elected Republicans.
The State of Utah is being marginalized by our extreme positions on guns, the federal budget, gay rights, birth control, etc. As Utahans, we are buying Guns, Gold, and Grub, thinking that the world is coming to an end. This blind nonsense is hurting everyone in Utah and is pushing us to the sidelines in America..

one old man
Ogden, UT

Why should he?

He knows he will be re-elected no matter what he may or may not do.

He has the magic "R" beside his name on the ballot.

George
Bronx, NY

here is the real questions to ask yourself. Is he wrong? if he is right do the voters of Utah deserve his respect?

Utah Dem
Ogden, UT

Counter Intelligence - your comment starts off on state government but then you immediately jump to the Democratic national platform to be critical of Dems in Utah, why is that? Is that because Utah Dems are far more moderate than their national party? Can you honestly say that you fully support the Republican National Platform?

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

When I was a youth we had Calvin Rampton as Governor. He was a democrat. I went to the state convention and personally talked with Scott Matheson, who became a Governor of Utah. He, too, was a democrat. I can tell you that we propered and the State was in great shape and well served with both of these Democratic Governor's, in my view.

No so much so with Norm Bangerter, Mike Leavitt, and Gary Herbert. We're in a quick-sand type of situation into which we allowed ourselves to become mired, accusing the national democratic party platform for our one-sidedness in state government. That's a feel-good way of blaming others for our woes.

We have had some mighty good democrats in local, state and national office from Utah. And we've had more than one questionable republican, especially in the state legislature.

That being said, I am an independent that has NEVER voted s straight-party ticket in my life.

ken12s
North Salt Lake, UT

Chicago of the west.......aka, Salt Lake City, Utah...... Enough said!

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

So many voters in Utah are incapable of rational thought when it comes down to marking the ballot. My father-in-law would vote for Satan over Jesus as long as Satan had the (R) next to his name and Jesus had the (D) next to his.
Of course Jesus was a liberal but that's another issue.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT
10:19 a.m. March 5, 2013

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I could not agree more with this comment Ernest!
Great comment.

Ah-men, and Ah-men!

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@Utah Dem
Because Utah Democrats are hobbled by the national party - that was my point.
No I don’t agree with everything in the national Republican platform - but I agree with their vision far more than the race/gender/class war faring vision and the embracement of failing European economic systems that permeates the Democrat national platform. Specifically I am more included to agree with the Dems on land control issues, and I am prone to supporting mass transit and efforts to clean Utah air, but I agree with the Republicans on Keystone pipeline and the general distrust of global warming hysteria. Generally: Small government is better than big government.

Not all Utah Dems are more moderate than their national counterparts; although it is to their credit that Rocky Anderson (who personifies hysterics and intolerance) was mutually dumped by the Dems. Also Jim Debakas should be commended for confronting head-on the anti-Mormon sentiment that has pervaded the local Democratic Party for the last several decades. It’s hard to claim the mantle of tolerance when the organization clearly was not.

It is the Democratic Party's job to attract Utah voters - not vice versa.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Yes.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@Ernest T. Bass - Open Minded Mormon
There is a vast difference between being intellectually liberal and politically liberal.
While I believe Christ was the former – that does not automatically translate into the latter, since the two terms have nothing in common except a word in the name. I do not recall any pronouncements from Christ regarding government health care or abortion policies, etc. and I believe he routinely condemned racial, class and gender warfare. My experience is that political liberals sell an idea (such as the termination of human life) under the guise of “choice”, then immediately work to eliminate the possibility of anyone making a different choice (such as forcing those opposed abortion to pay for, prescribe or perform the procedure). I have also heard it effectively argued that forcing anyone to abandoned free agency is the antithesis of God’s plan.
Ironically; when conservatives bring God into the conversation, as you just did, they are decried of as being pompous and self righteous. There are also those who would vote for Satan if he had a (D) after his name. So what make you better? I see nothing.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Counter Intel, how would anyone guess what Jesus' politics were? Based on how he talked to the conservatives, the pharisees, I would hazard a guess that he was politically liberal as well.

David
Centerville, UT

I have long felt that Utah's one-party rule and power is detrimental overall. Local Democrats have a huge disadvantage in Utah because of the national Democratic platforms and leftist leanings. Local Democrats are not nearly as liberal. As a Republican who has met and discussed politics with many Utah Democratic candidates, I have felt to support many of them over their Republican opponents.

I personally feel a big difference between Utah Democrats and New York or California or DC Democrats.

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

Excellent perspective. Only one disagreement. Utah teachers' salaries would be 49th highest or 2nd lowest, not 49th lowest (which means 2nd highest). The math can get confusing when our numbers are so low.

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