They really need to do more than "shore up" some things. They are headed
for a full on revamp again, and soon.
Duckhunter's comments are a bit harsh. I suspect the Utes will struggle
early on next year because of the key seniors they lose, Washburn, Dubois and
Martin. But they have some good people back and will have some promising
newcomers. But, and most importantly, they have great coaches. What they really
need is about 8,000 additional fans to start showing up and supporting the team
alternateIt's difficult to "fix" something that never
worked in the first place.First D-1 game of the season the Utes lose
to #286 Sacramento State 71-74 AT HOME!The fans aren't going to
return until the Utes start winning and that doesn't appear likely anytime
soon. A possible one-conference win "improvement" from
Utah's worst season ever, especially with one of the most incredibly boring
offenses in the country, isn't going to entice any of the fans that already
abandoned the Utes to return.
@alternate - There is nobody coming in that will fill that stat sheet left
behind by Washburn, Dubois and Martin. Next year could be a rebuilding year,
but the overall results could be worse than this year.U are
absolutely right about the fans showing up. Even during BYU's darkest year
96/97, there were a lot more fans than U are getting. Good luck.
@alternateNot only are my comments not "harsh" they are 100%
accurate. krystkowiak has foolishly started mostly sr's in a vain attempt
to get a few more wins which in turn was a vain attempt to get some utah
"fans" to attend. It may have "worked" in that they may have
gotten a couple of more wins, although I attribute that more to the
embarrassingly bad OOC schedule than playing those sr's, but it completely
failed to get any "fans" to come because the style of play was so
boring, ugly, and slow. Now they have to start a bunch of young, and
no better than average, "talent" with little experience. Yes it is a
"revamp" nad no the results will not be pretty to watch.
Duckhunter, wow. There are times when you have a fairly reasoned comment but
you are so far off on this one, its funny. "krystkowiak has foolishly
started mostly sr's"There were a number of times Coach had
4 freshmen on the floor. The freshmen are getting a LOT of experience. A
freshman leads the team in minutes played. The Utes have a good jump on next
year, and aren't losing any more seniors than your beloved Cougars. Shall
we also describe the Cougars as "heading into a full on revamp"?
"Even during BYU's darkest year 96/97, there were a lot more fans than
U are getting"I don't think so, Tim.
2fewAverage home attendance 1996-97BYU - 16,895Utah - 14,047Even during BYU's darkest year, BYU was
outdrawing the Utes.
@ UteanymousBYU drew 16,000 this year for the USU and Utah games. I
highly doubt BYU's one-win team was drawing anywhere near those numbers,
especially during the second round through conference play.Would you
be able to point me in the right direction where I can verify the number you
2fer@ Uteanymous"... I highly doubt BYU's
one-win team was drawing anywhere near those numbers,.. Would you be able to
point me in the right direction where I can verify the number you
provided?"It's easy enough to look up, just Google
"college basketball attendance rankings"1996-97#7 BYU
- 14 games, 236,523 total, 16,895 average attendance#14 Utah - 14 games,
196,660 total, 14,047 average attendanceWhat's really
interesting is even though BYU's attendance dropped dramatically the next
season, Utah's attendance also dropped almost 1,000, during Utah's
best season EVER.1997-98#16 Utah - 13 games, 179,630 total,
13,818 average#53 BYU - 14 games, 118,014 total, 8,430 average1998-99#19 Utah - 14 games, 195,813 total, 13,987 average#40 BYU -
14 games, 137,321 total, 9,809 average2011-12#12 BYU - 16
games, 246,777 total, 15,424 average#57 Utah - 15 games, 125,915 total,
8,394 averageExcept for 2004-05 when Utah had a slight 10,776 to
10,632 average attendance advantage, BYU has lead Utah in average attendance
every year since 2003, in most years, like last, by several thousand per game.
SoonerUte - "A freshman leads the team in minutes played. The Utes have a
good jump on next year, and aren't losing any more seniors than your
beloved Cougars. Shall we also describe the Cougars as "heading into a full
on revamp?"It is true that a freshman (Loveridge) is getting the
most minutes, but the next four in most minutes played for U are all seniors.The Cougars start two Sophomores (Haws and Carlino), and Austin, Sharp
(also Sophomores) are getting more minutes than any of your other
underclassmen.Your argument fails. Ducky wins. This is
a rebuilding year for the Cougs. Next year could be a rebuilding year for U,
but this year was not.
@CougFaninTXUmmmmm check your numbers again. Utah has only 3
seniors who play..........
It takes INCREDIBLE mental capacity to say that a team with 2, yes 2, returning
players is not in rebuilding mode. Thanks for the laugh,
Let's show up for these last 2 games Utes and show our support.It's been some rough years, but coach K has done some great things to
START putting using us in the right direction. Being asked to assemble a team
and compete in the PAC 12 would be challenging for anyone.I look
forward to good things from him and the team.Show up Utes!
Let's pack the HC!
I hope both teams do better next year.
Utah no longer has rebuilding years. They just have survival years and hope the
fans don't notice.
@CougFaninTXThis is a rebuilding year for the Cougs. Next year could
be a rebuilding year for U, but this year was not.---------Only in the bubble down south a season with 11 new players is not a rebuilding
year. Regardless of what our friends in the bubble feel, the fact
remains the foundation was laid with Loveridge and Taylor.
CougFaninTX said some odd things "This is a rebuilding year for the Cougs.
Next year could be a rebuilding year for U, but this year was not."This was a rebuilding year for the Cougs? What? The pre-season hype (from
down south) was that this team was going to the NCAA. You don't
accidentally stumble in to the tournament on a rebuilding year. The truth is,
Coug fans are highly disappointed because once again they believed the hype, and
the team didn't deliver.Not a rebuilding year for the Utes?
Still trying to make sense of that one. The Utes had only 2 returning players.
Everyone else was new to the uniform. How is that not a rebuilding year?