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Published: Monday, March 4 2013 2:30 p.m. MST

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Down under
Pullman, WA

The real reason that the Utah trolls have to comment on BYU articles is that nobody cares about what Utah is doing, therefore no Utah arrticles to comment on. Maybe when Utah climbs out of the cellar that may get some media attention.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Jazzsmack:

"Exactly what did you expect to happen when BYU went independent?"

We expected that you would play incredibly weak SOS. We're just here to rub it in a bit after your fans' continual boasts of how the top teams in the country would be lining up to play in Provostan now that you're no longer playing MWC ball. We were right. You were wrong.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

WON84:

"Thanks for your assessment of the schedule and undying support and attention to all things BYU. It really is appreciated...Thanks again for your help in making independence a success."

I have to laugh at how desperate your fans have become for warm fuzzy endorsements. So hopeless have you been, that you've had to pretend me calling you "mid-majorey" as some sort of compliment. I believe Duckhunter would have called that "too funny", and maybe even "LOL"-ed at that frantic and emotional notion.

And lastly, your independence had NOT been a success. For starters, you lost your conference affiliation with the WAC due to it collapsing under the weight of its own mid-majoreyness. And finally, your schedules and bowl tie-is have not improved over the MWC's. It's worse.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Snack WAC:

"Jealous? Nope. That would YOUR fanbase.

(a) We're now in an elite conference...and not just ANY elite conference. We're in the one you guys fantasized about joining for the better part of the last 3 decades. You weren't wanted by any relevant conferences, and had to align yourselves with the now-defunct WAC.

(b) We've played in (and won) 2 BCS bowls, and own the nation's best postseason winning percentage. You "Quest"-ed for BCS bowl, prematurely threw Tostitos tortillas out onto your field before the opening kickoff of your season opener in another, and own one of the worst postseason winning records in the nation.

(c) We now get Home-&-Home schduling arrangements with teams like Michigan. You get one-offs.

(d) We don't have a generation gap in the all time series, don't sign a majority of our classes from the "2-star" back pages of the "who's who in football recruiting" manual, and hadn't lost nearly 75% of our most recent matchups these past 11 yrs.

The truth is, the envy sits on your side of the fence.

Chewbacca
Magna, UT

Snack Pac- BYU hasn't ever "won" a national championship. They were AWARDED a national championship. There's a big difference. You would have to beat SOMEBODY to win a national championship. Beating ZERO teams that finish in the final top 25 doesn't win you anything.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Cool. Another state to dominate recruiting in.

Marked it Down
Park City, UT

Chewbacca

"BYU hasn't ever "won" a national championship. They were AWARDED a national championship."

LOL at the jealous spin.

BYU won its 1984 National Championship in EXACTLY the same every other team has won its national championship(s) since 1936, by being voted #1 in the final polls.

BYU beat Air Force(8-4), which finished #24 in the final AP poll.

backpacn
Sandy, UT

navel vet

Laughing hilariously at your schedule smack.

Not surprising, since you've been a miserable failure in overall accomplishments on the football field since sneaking into the PAC 10.2

What you've cluelessly failed to understand is that simply being in an "elite" conference, doesn't make U elite. All you've proven so far is that you're a convenient punching bag for the big boys of the PAC 10.2 to pad their conference records.

"And lastly, your independence had NOT been a success. For starters, you lost your conference affiliation with the WAC due to it collapsing under the weight of its own mid-majoreyness."

What a frantic and emotional statement, even for U.

BYU's Independence has FAR exceeded your PAC 10.2-edness.

2011 BYU(10-3) #25/#26/#34 > Utah(8-5) UNRANKED!/#39
2012 BYU(8-5) #26 bowl WINNER > Utah(5-7) #61 couch potato bowl

You've been in steady decline since your peak in 2008, and Utah's peak doesn't even come close to matching BYU's peak.

Call us the first time U finish a 24-game winning streak with back-to-back Top 7 finishes and a CONSENSUS National Championship!

ekute
Layton, UT

@Snack PAC

All time head to head Utah>byu
Last 20 years head to head Utah>byu
Last 15 years Head to head Utah>byu
Last 10 years head to head Utah>byu
Last 5 years head to head Utah>byu
coaches Head to head Kyle>bronco

ekute
Layton, UT

Wait,I'm not done...

Pac12,Pac12 Network>independence,byu tv
Utah on Espn=byu on ESPN

BlueCoug
Orem, UT

ekute

Last 41 years head to head BYU(26) > Utah(15)

Largest margin of victory in the series: BYU 56 > Utah 6

AP Top 25 Finishes
BYU(17) > Utah(5)

Head-to-head
Bronco(3) < Kyle(5)

Top 25
Bronco(5) > Kyle(3)

Top 15
Bronco(3) > Kyle(1)

Conference Championships
Bronco(2) > Kyle(1)

Bowl Games
Bronco(8) > Kyle(7)

Losing Seasons
Bronco(0) > Kyle(1)

Losses to 10-loss teams
Bronco(0) > Kyle(2)

Overall
Bronco > Kyle

U 90
Corona, CA

Snack Pac, Perhaps illusions of overall success can be explained by SOS. Neither program has been very good over the last 2 seasons. Sure BYU has had a better record but the schedule was WAC heavy, right. Every attempt to paint a different picture just makes you look silly. If BYU was so much better than Utah, why can't they beat the Utes? Again, consider SOS when considering overall success.

Marked it Down, Don't attempt to make 1984 sound more impressive than it really was. There were no ranked teams on BYU's schedule in 1984 as there was only a Top 20 back in those days (no Top 25). You're making yourself look bad by stretching the truth. I actually pull for BYU when they're not playing Utah, but I'm embarrassed for guys like you who try to make something appear more than it really was. I'll freely admit, BYU has an NC and Utah doesn't. Are you willing to admit that it was the weakest NC schedule of all time?

ekute
Layton, UT

@BlueCoug

ouch ;)

We beat ya 54-10 2 years ago,and 3 times last year. Wha-da-think?

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

U 90 / ekute

"Perhaps illusions of overall success can be explained by SOS."

Perhaps they aren't illusions of better overall success.

SOS and records are already calculated into rankings, as seen in Sagarin's final 2012 rankings:

#12 Oklahoma(10-3) #5 (SOS)
#13 Ohio State(12-0) #60
#18 Baylor(8-5) #7
#19 Utah State(11-2) #97
#26 BYU(8-5) #63
#61 Utah(5-7) #41

You'll notice that the SOS for BYU and Utah was fairly close, while the ranking difference was much greater.

Utah fans look silly trying to argue that one head-to-head game in a 12-game season proves something. Of course, even Utah fans laugh at the "logic" when it comes to comparisons that don't involve BYU versus Utah.

For example, does any Utah fan really believe that Colorado(3-10) was better than Utah in 2011 or that UNLV(2-10) was better than Utah in 2007?

Utah was simply lucky to win the last three; it could have easily been BYU winning two of the last three, and five of the last eight.

You've already exposed your hypocrisy by claiming that Pittsburgh was better than UConn in 2004.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

backWACn:

"What you've cluelessly failed to understand is that simply being in an "elite" conference, doesn't make U elite."

No, but being in an elite conference DOES get one more elite recruits. And since the Pac-10 invited Utah, our recruiting had only gotten better. Conversely, since leaving the MWC, yours only got worse. With our better recruits, we will produce a more elite team. With your worse recruits, you're going to have to schedule down to a more "WAC"-worthy lineup in order to win enough games to dupe your fans into believing there was anything noteworthy about your program.

"BYU's Independence has FAR exceeded your PAC 10.2-edness."

Nope. The Y lost all their games vs. their big brother since the conference change, and by an average of 23.5 pts. When you're -23.5, it is YOU who had been "FAR exceded"; not the other way around.

"Utah's peak doesn't even come close to matching BYU's peak."

Wrong again. When was the last time the Y beat 4 ranked teams in the same season?

Answer: NEVER!

We've done it twice...just like we've hoisted BCS bowl trophies twice.

Utah > Indy-WAC

ekute
Layton, UT

@Rockwell

Oh,now it was luck. I thought it was the refs.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

bacWACn:

"Laughing hilariously at your schedule smack."

Doubtful. More like "crying a river" per your inferiority complex. If Y fans are truely "excited" about playing UConn, UCF, Southern Miss, UNLV, Middle Tennessee, et al, they're either admitting they're not capable of competing with the big boys and PREFER weak SOS - thus attributing to your perpetual mid-majoreyness -- or they're disingenuously trying to cheer themselves up.

Whew! Glad I'm not an Indy-WACer. That would have been so embarrassing.

ekute
Layton, UT

No really. It was magic, cause we did the right things on and off the field.

Y's little brother
Sandy, UT

Chewbacca

"Beating ZERO teams that finish in the final top 25 doesn't win you anything." - FALSE

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U 90

"There were no ranked teams on BYU's schedule in 1984 as there was only a Top 20 back in those days (no Top 25)." - TRUE (as far as final rankings)

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Mark it Down

"BYU beat Air Force(8-4), which finished #24 in the final AP poll." - TRUE

Final AP Poll
#1 BYU 1160
#2 Wash 1140
#3 Fla 1092
#4 Neb 1017
#5 BC 932
#6 Okla 883
#7 Ok St 864
#8 SMU 761
#9 UCLA 613
#10 USC 596

#20 Va 119
#21 W Va 109
#22 Ga 67
#23 Army 44
#24 AFA 26
#24 ND 26

Air Force wasn't ranked, but the Falcons did indeed finish in the Top 25 in the Final AP Poll for 1984.

Saying that BYU didn't beat any Top 25 teams in 1984 is a lie.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Rockwell:

"You'll notice that the SOS for BYU and Utah was fairly close,..."

Actually, you'll notice that Utah's SOS was 22 spots higher than the Y's, and that this separation is NOT fairly close. You'll also notice that when comparing the 3 Utah schools, the lower the SOS, the more W's on the season. Coincidence?

Nope.

"Utah was simply lucky to win the last three; it could have easily been BYU winning two of the last three, and five of the last eight."

More likely, it was the Y who had been lucky to win those 3 games back in '06, '07, and '09, and that it could have easily been UTAH winning all 11 of those aforementioned games. But that's football. The scoreboard says 8 of the last 11 for your big brother who was the better team this past quarter century. And now that our recruiting had only gotten better, while yours had only gotten worse, Utah looks to put even more distance from our frantic and emotional neighbors to the south in the coming years.

Good luck to you with all your 2-star recruit talent. [*snicker*]

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