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High number of trooper crashes concern spouses, but safety depends on motorists

Published: Sunday, March 3 2013 4:50 p.m. MST

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Red Smith
American Fork, UT

How many troopers were hit per year when the speed limit was 55 mph? Aren't these peoples lives worth slowing down?

Goooo Cougars
Spokane, WA

You should always get out of the far lane if there is a cop pulled over. Get off your cell phones and pay attention. I am from Utah and after living in other places it is easy to say that Utah drivers are the worst. Pay attention to others just not yourself.

ImABeliever
Provo, UT

Just last week a cop in an unmarked vehicle in front of the neighbor's house pulled some people over and had his vehicle parked half way in the street on a busy street no less. I told the individual in politeness to please move the vehicle as people drive fast on this road. He pulled out a badge and said he was arresting people. Apparently, if you are a cop that entitles you to break the law and not park correctly. Time and time again I have seen police turn on their sirens just so they could drive faster and not pursue anything. Maybe it's time the cop's start obeying the law and lose their ego.

rbgntx
Kaufman, TX

Texas put a law into effect a couple of years ago requiring motorists on multiple lane highways to move to over a lane and reduce speed by ten mph when a police officer has a a car stopped and their emergency lights activated. The law seems to be working here.

Mugabe
ACWORTH, GA

I can sympathize with people getting ran over by another driver, even if they are not State Troopers. The "Brass," should put more emphasis on educating their subordinates by telling them to stop pulling motorist over for things that does not constitute a crime. Looking suspicious is not a crime. An expired plate is not a crime, and therefore, should not be treated as such. Policemen and Women, put themselves in danger by over stepping their bounds and in most cases violating Constitutional rights. The courts have ruled:

The Right to Travel; The Right to Mode of Conveyance; The Right to Locomotion
are all absolute rights, and the Police can not make void the exercise of rights.
State v. Armstead, 60 s. 778, 779, and 781:

State Police Power extends only to immediate threats to public safety, health, welfare, etc., Michigan v.Duke 266 US, 476 Led. At 449: which driving and speeding are not. California v. Farley Ced. Rpt. 89, 20 CA3d 1032 (1971):

For a crime to exist, there must be an injured party (Corpus Delicti) There can be no sanction or
penalty imposed on one because of this Constitutional right. Sherer v. Cullen 481 F. 945:

Mugabe
ACWORTH, GA

Continued:

Traveling in an automobile on the public roads was not a threat to the public safety or health
and constituted no hazard to the public, and such a traveler owed nothing more than “due
care” (as regards to tort for negligence) to the public and the owner owed no other duty to the
public (eg. State), he / she and his / her auto, having equal rights to and on the roadways / highways as horses and wagons, etc.; this same right is still substantive rule, in that speeding, running stop signs, traveling without license plates, or registration are not threats to the public safety, and thus, are not arrestable offenses. Christy v. Elliot, 216 I 131, 74 HE 1035, LRA NS 1905 – 1910: California v. Farley 98 CED Rpt. 89, 20 CA 3d 1032 (1971).

Under The United States Republic’s Constitutional system of Government and upon the individuality and intelligence of the citizen, the state does not claim to control one’s conduct to others, leaving one the sole judge as to all that affects oneself. Mugler v. Kansas 123 US 623, 659 – 60:

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

Mugabe. You are joking right. You can't be serious. There is not a court in this country that would uphold your view. Driving is a privilege granted by the state to those who can qualify for a drivers license. The so called right to locomotion can be the right to walk or buy a bus ticket, not drive 80 mph on a residential street. Public safety is a legitmate function of state government and that includes our roads and highways. For those of you who blame our outstanding troopers for the reckless actions of others I have one thing to say. Get a life. Utah drivers are out of control. Addicted to speed, texting and driving, rude, and arogant. I wish the state would hire more troopers and do what Wisconsin did. Drastically increase the fines for speeding and other traffic violations. Make breaking the law really hurt.

Clinton
Draper, UT

Maybe if we employed police officers to protect the public against criminals rather than as another form of tax collector, they wouldn't be getting hit. I've either been, or know people who have been victims of hit-and-run accidents, burglary, vandalism, assault, and other crimes where the police show up, do absolutely nothing, and leave, even when witnesses knew who the perpetrator was. Maybe if the police worried more about real crimes that have actually happened instead of preying on law-abiding citizens for revenue, they wouldn't get hit as much.

UtahMaus
Orem, UT

At the end of the article, for those of you who clearly did not read that far, it says what each officer was doing at the time he was hit. 15 of the 16 were at the scene of accidents. Should we seriously tell them to stop assisting accident victims?

I was taught in Drivers' Ed that you move over a lane if it is possible to do so safely if there is a vehicle on the shoulder. How hard is it to move over and to allow other drivers to do so?

Western Rover
Herriman, UT

I used to be impatient to get to my destination, not because my boss cared whether I came in a bit late (he didn't; I would just work later), but because I was bored silly driving.

Then I discovered audiobooks (free from the library), and now when I see a pedestrian sign far ahead change from blue to flashing red, I no longer step on the gas to get through the light before it changes. Instead I think, "Excellent, another red light. I might be able to finish this chapter before I get to work/home."

I haven't gotten a speeding ticket since.

Kyna
WEST JORDAN, UT

I can understand the frustration on from officers since there are only 2 options available when passing an office who has his lights on, on the side of a road.
A) - Change lanes - so there is a full lane of space between you and the officer,
Or
B) if that isn't possible - slow 15 mph under the posted limit to pass.

The last time I ran into this, there was no way for me to safely change lanes - traffic was much to heavy - only the problem was that the Officer had not actually pulled out of the traffic lane. He left his car with the back end sticking into traffic. I couldn't pass, and I couldn't change lanes, there wasn't enough room. Instead? the officer started yelling at me for stopping. Honestly? if I had tried to go around, I'd have hit him. No way to avoid it.

So, maybe- in addition to drivers watching for them a bit more, Officers could make sure they themselves are not causing a traffic hazard.

suzyk#1
Mount Pleasant, UT

Until you have worn the uniform, walked in his shoes and have the training our officers have, you don't have a leg to stand on. They take more guff from drivers that are drunk, beligerant, drugged up or down right disrespectful and they deserve our appreciation, trust and respect. These men and women are not perfect, and we are not either so there will be errors in judgement and I for one is just grateful they still want to be officers of the law and take all the crap they get for trying to protect us. My hat goes off to our police officers...it is not an easy or rewarding position to be many times. We love our policemen, our military and our firemen. They do absolutely more good that harm.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

Officers' spouses are concerned about their husbands being hit. What they should be more concerned about it the attitude of many Utahns on the issue...see many of the comments above where the victim (the UHP trooper) is blamed. Do you people also blame murder victims for being murdered?

mrjj69
bountiful, UT

their driver licenses should be taken away. PERMANENTLY

carman
Wasatch Front, UT

All UHP needs to do is get out on the I-15 corridor during early rush hour when there is still room on the roads to race around. I drive on I-15 to downtown regularly and am stunned at the aggressive, weaving in-and-out, crossing the double-white HOV lane lines, often at 80+ miles per hour, some while on the phone - in reasonably heavy traffic. Start writing tickets UHP. I too am sick of all the accidents that are hurting innocent drivers, our officers, and by extension, all of their families. It is costing us time on clogged freeways (after one of these aggressive drivers crashes or causes someone else to crash), money (in higher insurance premiums), and lives.

I see cars doing this almost EVERY day. These drivers feel immune from the consequences of their driving behavior.

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