I believe a three is not a front line player, in today's game a three is a
wing, the 4 and 5 are the bigs I am referring to. In BYU's case the
returners are way undersized, physically.
trentster"Collinsworth is not a dependable front line player,
not as big as his brother, he is more of a 3."Isn't a 3, by
definition, a front line player?Kyle isn't a 3-point shooter,
but like Hartsock, has a dependable mid-range jump shot, is a decent rebounder
and in dishing assists. Needs to work on his free throw shooting, but at
6'6", 210 lbs, could be a valuable complement to Haws and Mica in that
mid-range area where many teams struggle.
Collinsworth is not a dependable front line player, not as big as his brother,
he is more of a 3. What we need are bangers who can score and play defense.
Enough of the zone defense. Deductive reasoning is correct, we need more
outside shooting, but I would add, with less turnovers. All the Y
"bigs" need to get bigger and stronger, they resemble a team of
marathoners, not b-ballers. It has been a frustrating year, to say the least.
The only highlight has been Haws' play, and the sporadic effort by Davies
when he can stay off the bench due to his brainless fouls. Whew, bring on
"WCC looking very good for a #1 seed.MWC probably looking at a
#3 seed.PAC 10.2 will be lucky to get a #4 seed."A
truly nightmare scenario for our arrogant little friends on the hill.
TheSportsAuthoritySo the down side of playing in the WCC is playing
in a few smaller arenas, being ranked #1, and having an excellent chance of
being a #1 seed?btw, this isn't the first time a WCC team has
been ranked #1, and if Gonzaga were to win the national championship, it
wouldn't be the first time a WCC team won a national championship.
Interesting post from another thread:Latest AP/Coaches Top 25
Rankings#1/#1 Gonzaga#12/#11 New Mexico#18/#18
Arizona#19/#25 Oregonur/#23 Saint Mary's#23/ur UCLAWCC looking very good for a #1 seed.MWC probably looking at
a #3 seed.PAC 10.2 will be lucky to get a #4 seed.Gonzaga is in position to make the WCC a major player in college
trentsterI'd prefer to see the whole Lone Peak gang starting
for BYU in 2017. I've heard Mika will serve a mission after his freshman
season.BYU will be much stronger on the front line next season with
Mika and Collinsworth, but we still need some dependable outside shooters to
make teams pay for doubling Haws.
Just one Lone Peak player is coming next season. Mika could start right now for
the cougs, but alas it will be a few years until the kids can help the program,
so patience is key. Carlino and his penchant for to's will try us all.
Maybe Emery could receive a bye for his mission service and step in next year,
go the jimmer and ainge route, the kid is that good.
@RockwellAs a big time Zags fan;...........it's pretty cool!
Congratulations to fellow WCC member Gonzaga being voted the #1 team in the
country!51 of 65 first-place votes in the AP poll.29 of
31 first-place votes in the Coaches poll.A well-deserved honor for
I would say "a little too physical" is an understatment; but that's
just my opinion. Two very flagrant fouls, with some taunting thrown in.
That's certainly not BYU basketball from my experience. I do admit, that
the game of basketball has become very physical though. I see this at all
levels, whether it's my son's AAU game; or a NBA game. Totally agree
with the Lone Peak group coming in; very talented; good luck the rest of the
Latest AP/Coaches Top 25 Rankings#1/#1 Gonzaga#18/#18
Arizona#19/#25 Oregonur/#23 Saint Mary's#23/ur UCLA
Spokane UteBronson may have been a little too physical, but BYU
desperately needed someone too bring a physical presence to the game. Davies,
Sharp, and Austin are all finesse players.This will very likely be
the only year Rose needs Kaufusi. Next year, BYU will have a legitimate center
with real basketball skills for the first time in a long time. Mica will be a
big time player as a Freshman.
@TrueBlueDude is way to rough for the basketball court (IMO). He
should stick to football. I was pretty shocked to see a BYU player, play the way
he did against Gonzaga. I don't ever remember a BYU player, roughing up the
oppisition like that. BYU - St. Marys would be a good matchup. Gonzaga has a
very special team this year. BYU will probably go to the NIT, and really,
that's not all that bad of deal. They could make a nice run in the NIT. The
Lone Peak recruits will help the program; they can flat out play the game!
I agree with a lot of readers that BYU is having a down year and are having one
of their worst seasons in a long time. BUT, they still have over 20 wins with a
few more to come. They could end up with 20 wins after the tournaments are
over. It will take three complete seasons for the U to get as many wins.
Definately the two programs are headed in different directions.
Spokane UteMarshall Henderson is just lucky that Kafusi wasn't
playing BYU basketball when Marshall decked Jackson. It could have gotten really
ugly the next time Marshall drove the lane.Kafusi hasn't played
basketball since high school, so he's still adjusting from football mode.
In the heat of competition, his natural instinct is to go after shot blocks with
the same intensity as sacking a QB.
@Chris BThe article is about BYU in case you didn't notice. Did
the U even qualify for their conference tournament?
I wonder if Kafusi has been practicing his MMA moves for the WCC tournament?
Since San Diego beat Pepperdine both times they played this year----including
just last week----it seems wise for BYU to get ready to play San Diego Friday
night. As I recall San diego beat BYU the last time the two met. So Friday
night seems like a big "if"----not at all a sure win. san diego has two
talented sophomore guards, and 3 front court seniors if I understand right.
Should BYU get by San diego, then they know St. Mary's is waiting.
Byu has shown no capability to beat St. Mary's this year. St mary's
walked off with a win in Provo, and also up at logan---something byu can only
rarely do. an objective observer would have to predict BYU will either go one
and out, or two and out at the wcc this week. There won't likely be any
Monday night championship game for the cougars against the Zags. This is likely
more about getting prepared to do their best in the NIT----a level of
competition more suited to their caliber.
I beg to differ, BYU has not been improving. They were just awful against LMU; I
would give Davies, Zylstra and Carlino all Fs for the game, they were pathetic.
Carlino has gotten worse as the season ended, not better; he still can't
shoot and against LMU he made some of the dumbest mental errors I've seen
in awhile. Will all these guys magically improve overnight? not likely. BYU
might win their first game, but they can't beat Saint Marys or Gonzaga.
I'm already looking forward to next year when the Lone Peak boys join the
team and create an instant upgrade over the guys we have.
christyLOL at your WCC angst.If the PAC 10.2 is soooo
much better, why does Utah's RPI keep dropping every time U lose?BYU RPI #62Utah RPI #179 (down a few more notches)hmmmmMaybe U actually have to win for SOS to mean anything.While
BYU has struggled against Saint Mary's and Gonzaga the last couple of
years, let's no forget a couple things:- BYU swept Saint
Mary's and Gonzaga the year before BYU joined the WCC.- Utah
would be a bottom dweller in the WCC just like U are in the PAC.You
do realize, don't U, that only WCC basement dweller LMU has beaten FEWER
D-1 opponents than U.Bottom line:149-145; 7 game winning
streak; 11 of the last 12; with 3 straight 20-point wins in the HC.BYU - 6 NCAA tournaments in the last 8 yearsUtah - 6 losing seasons in
the last 8 yearsTwo programs at opposite ends of the spectrum and
growing even farther apart.
BYU has won 21 games this season.Utah has won 14 games in the past
two seasons combined.Keep talking Chris B. Keep talking.
Since joining the weak coast conference I am not sure there is anyone better at
losing to Gonzaga and st Mary's. I would say byu is very prepared for that
to happen. They are ready indeed
BYU does not have the heart of a champion nor the character of a team we can
truly believe gas a chance to beat Saint Mary's let alone the Zags.
They're third. Done and no NCAA.
How to be #1.1. personal talent-intelligent and diligent
preparation-intelligent and diligent planning2. Team intelligent and
diligent preparation-intelligent and diligent planning3. Confidence,
desire and execution in games(natural result from doing the first 2 properly)4. Physical presence in gamesDo these better than the rest and you
are #1. Tomorrow we are #1Notice I didn't put in the other
teams physical play, referees, lucky shooting by others, level of your
competition, others ratings, our current rating, our current record, whining,
listening to detractors(other than to laugh at them), being a detractor(to any
school), etc. Comments that focus on the items listed to be a
winner, are people that understand winning. Comments that focus in on the the
"other items" come from perennial losers.(I am not trying to put anyone
down. But if you live in the "other" items, do yourself and your family
a favor and change the way you live).Hint the list above goes beyond
basketball.Take a clue from Lone Peak and be a winner.
I hope Sharp will play a lot more, his hops can help him be a force plus he is
aggressive. But Rose knows what he is doing, so no blame here. Go
Cougars, win the WCC tourney!