BYU basketball: Cougars say they're ready for WCC tournament


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  • trentster TUSTIN, CA
    March 4, 2013 3:42 p.m.

    I believe a three is not a front line player, in today's game a three is a wing, the 4 and 5 are the bigs I am referring to. In BYU's case the returners are way undersized, physically.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 4, 2013 2:47 p.m.


    "Collinsworth is not a dependable front line player, not as big as his brother, he is more of a 3."

    Isn't a 3, by definition, a front line player?

    Kyle isn't a 3-point shooter, but like Hartsock, has a dependable mid-range jump shot, is a decent rebounder and in dishing assists. Needs to work on his free throw shooting, but at 6'6", 210 lbs, could be a valuable complement to Haws and Mica in that mid-range area where many teams struggle.

  • trentster TUSTIN, CA
    March 4, 2013 2:06 p.m.

    Collinsworth is not a dependable front line player, not as big as his brother, he is more of a 3. What we need are bangers who can score and play defense. Enough of the zone defense. Deductive reasoning
    is correct, we need more outside shooting, but I would add, with less turnovers. All the Y "bigs" need to get bigger and stronger, they resemble a team of marathoners, not b-ballers. It has been a frustrating year, to say the least. The only highlight has been Haws' play, and the sporadic effort by Davies when he can stay off the bench due to his brainless fouls. Whew, bring on football season!

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    March 4, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    "WCC looking very good for a #1 seed.

    MWC probably looking at a #3 seed.

    PAC 10.2 will be lucky to get a #4 seed."

    A truly nightmare scenario for our arrogant little friends on the hill.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    March 4, 2013 1:00 p.m.


    So the down side of playing in the WCC is playing in a few smaller arenas, being ranked #1, and having an excellent chance of being a #1 seed?

    btw, this isn't the first time a WCC team has been ranked #1, and if Gonzaga were to win the national championship, it wouldn't be the first time a WCC team won a national championship.

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    March 4, 2013 12:41 p.m.

    Interesting post from another thread:

    Latest AP/Coaches Top 25 Rankings

    #1/#1 Gonzaga
    #12/#11 New Mexico
    #18/#18 Arizona
    #19/#25 Oregon
    ur/#23 Saint Mary's
    #23/ur UCLA

    WCC looking very good for a #1 seed.

    MWC probably looking at a #3 seed.

    PAC 10.2 will be lucky to get a #4 seed.

    Gonzaga is in position to make the WCC a major player in college basketball.

    Go Zags!

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    March 4, 2013 12:38 p.m.


    I'd prefer to see the whole Lone Peak gang starting for BYU in 2017. I've heard Mika will serve a mission after his freshman season.

    BYU will be much stronger on the front line next season with Mika and Collinsworth, but we still need some dependable outside shooters to make teams pay for doubling Haws.

  • trentster TUSTIN, CA
    March 4, 2013 12:04 p.m.

    Just one Lone Peak player is coming next season. Mika could start right now for the cougs, but alas it will be a few years until the kids can help the program, so patience is key. Carlino and his penchant for to's will try us all. Maybe Emery could receive a bye for his mission service and step in next year, go the jimmer and ainge route, the kid is that good.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 4, 2013 11:41 a.m.


    As a big time Zags fan;...........it's pretty cool!

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    March 4, 2013 11:12 a.m.

    Congratulations to fellow WCC member Gonzaga being voted the #1 team in the country!

    51 of 65 first-place votes in the AP poll.

    29 of 31 first-place votes in the Coaches poll.

    A well-deserved honor for the Zags!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 4, 2013 10:45 a.m.

    I would say "a little too physical" is an understatment; but that's just my opinion. Two very flagrant fouls, with some taunting thrown in. That's certainly not BYU basketball from my experience. I do admit, that the game of basketball has become very physical though. I see this at all levels, whether it's my son's AAU game; or a NBA game. Totally agree with the Lone Peak group coming in; very talented; good luck the rest of the way!

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    March 4, 2013 10:28 a.m.

    Latest AP/Coaches Top 25 Rankings

    #1/#1 Gonzaga
    #18/#18 Arizona
    #19/#25 Oregon
    ur/#23 Saint Mary's
    #23/ur UCLA

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    March 4, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    Spokane Ute

    Bronson may have been a little too physical, but BYU desperately needed someone too bring a physical presence to the game. Davies, Sharp, and Austin are all finesse players.

    This will very likely be the only year Rose needs Kaufusi. Next year, BYU will have a legitimate center with real basketball skills for the first time in a long time. Mica will be a big time player as a Freshman.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 4, 2013 9:50 a.m.


    Dude is way to rough for the basketball court (IMO). He should stick to football. I was pretty shocked to see a BYU player, play the way he did against Gonzaga. I don't ever remember a BYU player, roughing up the oppisition like that. BYU - St. Marys would be a good matchup. Gonzaga has a very special team this year. BYU will probably go to the NIT, and really, that's not all that bad of deal. They could make a nice run in the NIT. The Lone Peak recruits will help the program; they can flat out play the game!

  • Down under Pullman, WA
    March 4, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    I agree with a lot of readers that BYU is having a down year and are having one of their worst seasons in a long time. BUT, they still have over 20 wins with a few more to come. They could end up with 20 wins after the tournaments are over. It will take three complete seasons for the U to get as many wins. Definately the two programs are headed in different directions.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    March 4, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    Spokane Ute

    Marshall Henderson is just lucky that Kafusi wasn't playing BYU basketball when Marshall decked Jackson. It could have gotten really ugly the next time Marshall drove the lane.

    Kafusi hasn't played basketball since high school, so he's still adjusting from football mode. In the heat of competition, his natural instinct is to go after shot blocks with the same intensity as sacking a QB.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    March 4, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    @Chris B

    The article is about BYU in case you didn't notice. Did the U even qualify for their conference tournament?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 4, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    I wonder if Kafusi has been practicing his MMA moves for the WCC tournament?

  • arod Ogden, UT
    March 4, 2013 8:00 a.m.

    Since San Diego beat Pepperdine both times they played this year----including just last week----it seems wise for BYU to get ready to play San Diego Friday night. As I recall San diego beat BYU the last time the two met. So Friday night seems like a big "if"----not at all a sure win. san diego has two talented sophomore guards, and 3 front court seniors if I understand right.
    Should BYU get by San diego, then they know St. Mary's is waiting. Byu has shown no capability to beat St. Mary's this year. St mary's walked off with a win in Provo, and also up at logan---something byu can only rarely do. an objective observer would have to predict BYU will either go one and out, or two and out at the wcc this week. There won't likely be any Monday night championship game for the cougars against the Zags. This is likely more about getting prepared to do their best in the NIT----a level of competition more suited to their caliber.

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    March 4, 2013 7:34 a.m.

    I beg to differ, BYU has not been improving. They were just awful against LMU; I would give Davies, Zylstra and Carlino all Fs for the game, they were pathetic. Carlino has gotten worse as the season ended, not better; he still can't shoot and against LMU he made some of the dumbest mental errors I've seen in awhile. Will all these guys magically improve overnight? not likely. BYU might win their first game, but they can't beat Saint Marys or Gonzaga. I'm already looking forward to next year when the Lone Peak boys join the team and create an instant upgrade over the guys we have.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 3, 2013 10:29 p.m.


    LOL at your WCC angst.

    If the PAC 10.2 is soooo much better, why does Utah's RPI keep dropping every time U lose?

    BYU RPI #62
    Utah RPI #179 (down a few more notches)


    Maybe U actually have to win for SOS to mean anything.

    While BYU has struggled against Saint Mary's and Gonzaga the last couple of years, let's no forget a couple things:

    - BYU swept Saint Mary's and Gonzaga the year before BYU joined the WCC.

    - Utah would be a bottom dweller in the WCC just like U are in the PAC.

    You do realize, don't U, that only WCC basement dweller LMU has beaten FEWER D-1 opponents than U.

    Bottom line:

    149-145; 7 game winning streak; 11 of the last 12; with 3 straight 20-point wins in the HC.

    BYU - 6 NCAA tournaments in the last 8 years
    Utah - 6 losing seasons in the last 8 years

    Two programs at opposite ends of the spectrum and growing even farther apart.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    March 3, 2013 8:49 p.m.

    BYU has won 21 games this season.

    Utah has won 14 games in the past two seasons combined.

    Keep talking Chris B. Keep talking.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2013 5:10 p.m.

    Since joining the weak coast conference I am not sure there is anyone better at losing to Gonzaga and st Mary's. I would say byu is very prepared for that to happen. They are ready indeed

  • LadyMoon Crestucky, FL
    March 3, 2013 4:59 p.m.

    BYU does not have the heart of a champion nor the character of a team we can truly believe gas a chance to beat Saint Mary's let alone the Zags. They're third. Done and no NCAA.

  • cal cougar camarillo, CA
    March 3, 2013 4:27 p.m.

    How to be #1.

    1. personal talent-intelligent and diligent preparation-intelligent and diligent planning
    2. Team intelligent and diligent preparation-intelligent and diligent planning
    3. Confidence, desire and execution in games(natural result from doing the first 2 properly)
    4. Physical presence in games

    Do these better than the rest and you are #1. Tomorrow we are #1

    Notice I didn't put in the other teams physical play, referees, lucky shooting by others, level of your competition, others ratings, our current rating, our current record, whining, listening to detractors(other than to laugh at them), being a detractor(to any school), etc.

    Comments that focus on the items listed to be a winner, are people that understand winning. Comments that focus in on the the "other items" come from perennial losers.(I am not trying to put anyone down. But if you live in the "other" items, do yourself and your family a favor and change the way you live).Hint the list above goes beyond basketball.

    Take a clue from Lone Peak and be a winner.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    March 3, 2013 3:46 p.m.

    I hope Sharp will play a lot more, his hops can help him be a force plus he is aggressive. But Rose knows what he is doing, so no blame here.

    Go Cougars, win the WCC tourney!