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Published: Sunday, March 3 2013 12:03 a.m. MST

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one old man
Ogden, UT

Confederate flags.

Banners that carry a big picture of an assault weapon with words that say, "Come and get it!"

Guns all over the place.

I wonder how many were loaded?

In my opinion, these are some of the people who need to be screened for mental competence and stability before packing a weapon. It's obvious that we need better mental health care in this country.

I'm waiting for the day when there is an "accidental" discharge at one of these gathering.

That might do a lot to impress upon people the need for some common sense safety regulations regarding weapons.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

OOM needs a bit of a history lesson.

"Come and take it" is an American patriotic slogan most notably used in 1778 at Fort Morris in Georgia during the American Revolution where the British demanded that the Americans surrender their fort. And later in 1835 during the Texas Revolution, where the Mexicans demanded that the Texans at Goliad surrender their cannon. The phrase is similar to Molon labe, which is a classical expression of defiance reportedly spoken by King Leonidas I in response to the Persian army's demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons at the Battle of Thermopylae.

Freedom loving people do not like their means of self defense taken away by tyrants, of any stripe.

The behavior of this group, and the condition they left the capitol grounds in, was far better than the "Occupy" folks who infested downtown Salt Lake for a while. And, everyone there handled their guns safely, and were obeying all laws.

Is this a great country, or what?

worf
Mcallen, TX

In my opinion, there are some people who need to be screened for mental competence, and stability before voting. It's obvious that we need better mental health care in this country.

A 16.8 trillion dollar deficit, and we keep voting in big spenders who want to take our guns away?

It's crazy.

Ajax
Mapleton, UT

As a Utah native son and a former Special Forces Army lieutenant, experienced in the use of numerous firearms, I am astounded at the vacuous rejection expressed in this article of what I see as common sense and long overdue national gun control measures that in no way infringe upon our constitutional rights nor threaten our ability to defend ourselves. More than extreme, the sentiments expressed are delusional. If mental health is truly an issue in gun ownership, I can't imagine any of those quoted qualifying as a responsible bearer of firearms. What they advocate is decidedly contrary to our collective best interests and only serves to embarrass themselves and our state.

We can only hope that those weapons they are constantly shaking in everyone's faces don't go off.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

The more I see and hear from these gun fanatics the more convinced I am that we need strong gun control legislation. Unfortunately we probably won't get it.

Emajor
Ogden, UT

Children. Children clinging to their toys. At least the governor is keeping a cool head.

This sort of thing is completely juvenile. And I generally support the right to own firearms.

Emajor
Ogden, UT

worf,
You weren't going where I thought you were going, given your first paragraph. Here's a more appropriate second paragraph:

"A 16.8 trillion dollar deficit, and the issue motivating these people to flood the streets is juvenile, knee-jerk paranoia over potential gun control measures that won't infringe on anyone's ability to defend their home or family"

There! Fixed it for you.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

What 2nd amendment enthusiasts desire is pure anarchy. You really want your wife and children to be exposed to wackos walking around at malls and churches wearing guns? Incredible.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Why don't those people get some constructive hobbies like serving the homeless some meals or donating to charities that help improve the human condition.
If loving guns is all you are, you aren't much.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Did anyone see 'wackos walking around at malls and churches wearing guns?' before gun legislation was presented? Is it 'children clinging to their toys' when someone's home is burglazed (or worse)? Was it 'delusional' and our 'collective' best interests when a crazy man stolls through Trolley Square and no one could stop it until the police arrived? Those of you who want 'common sense' gun legislation ought to take a look at how rediculous it is to hear these ludicrous 'common sense' gun laws that will absolutlely do nothing to stop anything, except law abiding gun owners who actually believe in America and its 2nd amendment. A little research, instead of partisan psuedo arguments, would do much for those who believe that the 2nd amendment is something not to defend or uphold. Stand up for unalienable rights, including a belief in God, and it is amazing how simple it is.

JayTee
Sandy, UT

Interesting that so many people think that suddenly the Federal government is going to come up with a fantastic solution to safety by simply dismantling some rights. One might choose to reflect on their success with the nation's economics, the gradual invasion of this homeland, the success with ultra-expensive brush fire wars on the other side of the planet, and virtually everything else they get involved in before becoming giddy about their ability to make the nation safer.

Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

Utah Constitution, Article I, Section 6. [Right to bear arms.]
The individual right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense of self, family, others, property, or the state, as well as for other lawful purposes shall not be infringed; but nothing herein shall prevent the Legislature from defining the lawful use of arms.

"one old man" commented about confederate flags should read up on the Gadsden flag. it is hardly a confederate flag.

The Sensible Middle
Bountiful, UT

A lot of police departments around the country
are urging people to get their own gun. They
say due to budget cuts it isn't wise to rely
solely on them for protection, because they
don't have the manpower to respond in a
timely manner.

I would argue this has always been the case
because its possible and somewhat likely
a home invader can kill you and other family
members in only moments.

If guns are to make people and families safer
however, rules of gun safety need to be
learned and then followed. This is important.

I would urge the state, (Utah) to add to their
website, gun safety rules, along with training
Scenarios of how to use a gun safely and
legally.

SLC345
SLC, UT

“Utahns are known for their strong support of conservative principles, including family values and the U.S. Constitution”
Too bad this only applies to guns. With the worst school system in the country too bad Utahns can’t put this much effort into their own education system.
Doesn’t sound like family values, it sounds like selfish and self oriented values.

EDM
Castle Valley, Utah

One day one of these so-called "responsible gun owners" is going to snap mentally, and we're going to have another massacre on our hands. Or the "good guy" will suddently turn bad. What's the argument then? And the radical behavior described here only makes me fear that it will happen sooner than later.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Since gun laws will never stop criminals from getting guns, why, oh why are we wasting our time debating ever more gun laws! They don't work, never have and never will! What we need is criminal control, not taking away the only defense law abiding citizens have to defend themselves. If you don't care about your freedoms, your property or your safety don't buy a gun! But those of us who do, will own guns because we have to!

Zac
Ogden, UT

These people are the nuts? Wasn't it the Vice President, Joe Biden, that said, basically, if you feel threatened, go outside and shoot a gun. Then in another interview, he said that you should shoot the door to keep people away from your house.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Owning a gun may be the last freedom available to any American soon!

Emajor
Ogden, UT

bandersen,
"Is it 'children clinging to their toys' when someone's home is burglazed"

No, but when people start waving aggressive propaganda banners and making a scene that should embarrass responsible gun owners over proposed legislation that will not prevent you from defending your home, then it is.

"Stand up for unalienable rights, including a belief in God, and it is amazing how simple it is"

Boy, talk about "pseudo arguments". What does gun control have to do with a belief in God? Did Moses bring down a Glock from Sinai along with the stone tablets?

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

The Pictures in the DN article "Gun Rights Enthusiasts March" Pretty much said it all! Children and others with child like mentality meeting at the Alter of the trigger, raising their voices and banners, fomenting a little more fear of big brother, who is lurking around every corner to snatch their favorite toy! To tell the truth, I am not so much worried about the hardware they are packing around, as I am of the fairy-tale rhetoric they espouse, and their possible reaction to a "the sky is falling" perceived threat! Make the argument for mental health more significant!

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