Kyle is a better coach because we won weber by 70.
SportzFanI think you meant "answer: ...BYU fans are
delusional." If so, as a BYU fan, I'll wear that. If it means I care
about embracing values that transcend football and seek for excellence on the
gridiron, then, yeah, I'm delusional. I am a fan of Bronco, but even
moreso of the young men embracing the standards and representing BYU with
Put Bronco's performance in context: In an environment as potentially
difficult to recruit to as the service academies, he has made our
"liability" a "strength". I'm excited even about coaches
he recruits because he places the honor code - and being a "flag bearer"
for these standards - at the center of what he does. Sure I would love to see
BYU beat everyone on their slate...and do so with "choir boys", but, win
or lose, I actually really like the hard nosed style of football we have been
playing which seems poised to come over to the offense as well. As Coach
Holliday (roughly) said in his interview after practice yesterday: We want
people to realise they're going to have to "bring their lunch box"
when they play BYU. I think any team who plays us this year will come away with
respect for this team - win or lose. Here's hoping we win out. Keep it
up, Bronco and company!
CalJac, thank you for providing an answer to the "why do 90% of fans support
Bronco?" question: 90% of BYU fans are delusional.
Bronco is the perfect man to be BYU's head coach. Like many members, I
measure Bronco by a higher standard than wins & losses although a .718
winning percentage is pretty darn impressive. Bronco may have made some errors
in judgment with who to play, but the organizational design of his program is
rock solid. He has turned many of the disadvantages of BYU being a church school
with rigid behavioral standards into advantages. I will not be
surprised when within five years from now Bronco is accepting the crystal
football trophy for having won the National Championship. The team's vision
is clear and the organizational mechanics are in place to make the coming
seasons memorable, both on and off the field. Bronco is the right man for the
job! Go Cougs!
Truly, I am proud of the culture that Bronco has brought to BYU. Could it be
more Christlike (i.e., Max Hall), yes, but I could say that for all of us (i.e.,
Me). He cleaned up a program that was starting to look poorly in the eyes of
many. I am grateful he is the coach of BYU. Is he perfect? Nope, but then
neither are any of us.
For several reasons beyond Bronco's control, getting his team to a
"major" bowl has been difficult even in the best of times. The current
BCS structure is stacked against teams not from the favored conferences,
regardless of record. Fans of BYU should be ecstatic that they have a team that
garners national attention given all the unique aspects of the program.
Grumbling will always happen with sports fans. Are people really so nostalgic
for the Crowton years that they want to dig into the oh so deep pool of possible
replacements and roll the dice? Look at the overall product and the whole
package. Things could be immeasurably worse.
Dear Confused,I am not going to go look up the different polls that
would verify my 90% comment. That number came from polls asking about
Bronco's approval and contract extension talks. In those polls 90%+ want
Bronco back and are happy with what he is doing. Do we see room for
improvement? Yes. Bronco himself acknowledges that. There always will be.
Before you make a rebuttal and state that these polls are not very
accurate I will be the first to admit they are not. However, your guesstimate
of 60% due to comment on these board from the "vocal minority" are not
accurate either. Part of your 60% are Ute fans. That in my opinion should count
as a vote for Bronco.Thanks. Have a GREAT day!! GO COUGARS!!!
I say good riddance to supposed "boosters" that focus exclusively on
winning at all costs. I'll put my money on a program that puts principles
and players before money.
Re: 2BCSWINSThe question was how Bronco's teams have done
against ranked teams. If not for BYU being ranked #25 when Utah played them
this past season, then Utah would have just one win over a ranked program in the
last 4 seasons. Your welcome.Re: Two For TrollingMaybe
so. But as I said, the numbers I was looking at came from ESPN's
schedules. Which did not have a ranking for that Pittsburgh team.Regardless, certain BYU haters keep wanting to bring up BYU's record
against ranked teams. And the numbers do show it hasn't been good. But
the numbers also show that Utah's hasn't been great either.
I'm glad your back coach. It is very difficult to recruit and coach and
win at BYU. I for one appreciate what you are doing there. We will be buying
season tickets again this year to support the boys, the school and your program.
Good luck with a this terrific schedule.
Hank Pym:He wasn't comparing Bronco to Wooden. He was noting
that Wooden didn't immediately win a national championship - it wasn't
until his 16th season at UCLA that he won the NCAA championship.No
need to overreact.
Bronco has already fixed a major fan concern: the OC position.The next
major fan concern fixed itself: senior QB will graduate. Those two concerns
alone should have added three victories in the win column. Let's all pray
that Anae plays a more exciting style than his last time around. We have all
been very frustrated for about three seasons now but we are faced in six months
with the toughest schedule in a decade or two. We can hope for 8/9 wins but
let's not get our hopes too high in view of the opponents we face.
Let's hope the aforementioned frustration is behind us for good.
I'd guess Riley will head to Med. School after graduation.
@ NevadaCougIn 2004 Pittsburgh finished 25 in the AP Poll.
Why do people pay any attention to what chrisb says. Everyone uses a screen name
and their true identity is no known. But some know the real chrisb, a person who
has never risen above mediocrity in any phase of life. Chris doe need th
@nevadacougie "Looks like Bronco has done better in the last 4 seasons than
Whittingham."Hate to blow a hole right threw this statement with
facts however Whittingham's team has beat Bronco's team 3 of the last
4 seasons. So it's pretty hard to say he has done better IMO.
Hank Pym, as a young man of 17, I went to a stake priesthood meeting in the
Pasadena California stake at which we had a guest speaker, John Wooden. He
spoke openly about his religious convictions and how they better helped him as a
coach and a leader of young men. Very Broncoesque. I for one have no problems
comparing the two along those lines.
mdemannI would like to know what "Poll" you used to state
"90%" of fans are happy with Bronco...If you go to the fan
boards, it is about 60 percent...I do know that there are some high
power donors not happy withe a medicore team.Say what you want, BYU
in one regard is no different than other schools "they need
donation".It is true that Bronco brought BYU out of the Crowton
years.. But he has stalled at being medicore and it is a nice little out to say
"I am building a complete program".
@Hank PymActually Neuhisel was only 21-29 with a .420 winning percentage
so your comparison is totally wrong. Dick Vermeil was only at UCLA two years
but had a comprable record to Coach Mendenhall with a .717 record. Mendenhall
is .718. Research on the internet is easy. Try it.
@ The CucamonganReally? Comparing Bronco To John Wooden? Really?If you are using a former Ucla coach then Neuhisel is a much better
Bronco was brought in precisely to do what he has done. He cleaned up the
program, made it worthy of BYU and its fans, and brought the program back to a
culture of winning. One mediocre season and people are suddenly against him.
Thankfully it is a vocal MINORITY. We cougars love the broncster and are happy
he will be around for the foreseeable future. Keep it up coach!!!!
@NevadaCougHow has byu done against Utah,the last 4 years?
I agree with Bronco when he says BYU football fans are not very well educated on
the game. Very smart to call out those that pay your salary.
I get the idea that Brad writes for fun. And that's why I read what he
writes, because it's fun. Some understated irony and a few satirical pokes
can brighten your day.God Bless Bronco for what he's doing at
BYU.God Bless Brad for giving me some fun.
To confused, the name fits. I have been a BYU fan my entire life.
I am an alumni and an ex-player. Bronco fits what i want from MY school. My
financial contributions have increased over the past few years. The sports
programs (football with Bronco included) are developing great people and over
all represent the school and church well. Yes mistakes are made but the great
far out weighs the mistakes. Bronco approval rating among 90% of fans is very
high. Maybe that is what is confusing you. I think he has the support of most
fans, including financial support fans. Most of the people who want to
get rid of him are people ( i use the term loosely) like Chris B. who hate
everything BYU. That to me is one more reason to like. Bronco. :) Go Cougars!! Looking forward to more great moments and challenges in the
As a graduate from both BYU and UCLA, I can honestly say to the BYU faithful -
You have one of the better coaches in America. Before John Wooden reeled off 10
national championships in 12 years, he toiled and learned his craft for many
more years before he became the Gold Standard for coaching Men's
Basketball. Not to say that Bronco will become a John Wooden, but he does
possess many similar qualities as a person and a coach of character. Give Bronco
some space and additional time. He might surprise us someday with a National
Mock on Rock. Really?
Okay, Chris B. Let's play your game.Since 2002, BYU has played
15 ranked teams. They have won 3 of those games and lost 12, for a .200 winning
percentage. Meanwhile, Utah has played 14 ranked teams, winning 5. That's
a .357 winning percentage. Better than BYU in that span, yes. But still not a
great winning percentage. And that includes two years when Utah went to BCS
bowls. Interesting note here on that: the year Utah won their first BCS bowl
(2004), they played ZERO ranked teams (according to the schedules on ESPN). So
you say you have to play ranked teams to get a BCS invite? Really?Now, some of those games against ranked teams came under different coaches.
Let's look at schedules from 2009 till now (2009 being the year both Bronco
and Whittingham had teams they "fully" recruited, perhaps?) Utah is 2-7
against ranked teams in that span, with one of those wins coming against #25 BYU
last season. BYU, however, is 3-7 against ranked teams in that span.Utah fans want to talk about recent history. Looks like Bronco has done
better in the last 4 seasons than Whittingham.
It's so fun to see christy and her friends on the hill throwing an
emotional tizzy fit at the meer thought of Bronco staying around
indefinitely.Two programs headed in opposite directions, and
it's driving the kids on the hill nuts.
3grandslamsIowa City, IAIt's what Rock does - report on
the news in what he hopes is a funny, ironic way. I thought his comments were
fair and fairly funny.ConfusedSandy, UTI'm
not too worried that you will lead the donor revolt and that the coffers will
dry up.My own thoughts. I like what he says, and I like what he
does. His talk leads his walk, which troubles some. I'm okay with
aspirations that are higher than present accomplishments. I don't see that
as hypocritical.And I am not interested in criticism from a fan of a
team who's bowl game was last September 17th and who then set out to prove
that they weren't even worthy of that.
My second comments is on reference to games against ranked opponents. No one
cares about your Idaho winsI repeat, bronco wants to increase his
record against ranked opponents from .150 to .200
Make fun of Bronco Rock, but this is a good man and he is making BYU football
look good now and is working for improvement. I think it shallow to
make fun of a person by the way he expresses himself. I would expect more from
Bronco is like most people, he is trying to do his best and has learned from his
mistakes. That doesn't mean that he won't make mistakes in the future,
but BYU could do far worse!I am looking forward to a great season!
Teams basically need 5 ranked wins to be in contention for a national title.
How many does bronco have in his entire byu career? 5?Very good chance he
will go from 5 in 7 years total to 5 in one year. I see no reason byu fans
shouldn't be very optimistic about their future.
I get frustrated with Bronco at times but he is a decent coach and a good fit
for BYU.I do NOT want to hear from Bronco that Utah is just another game
on the schedule. It IS a big deal and I really wish he would approach it that
way! Several years ago (throughout the Dalton era) TCU admitted
that they devoted part of EVERY practice to prepare for BYU. And it really
showed. They knew what every play was before the ball was snapped.That
level of attention to a rival is what I want to see from BYU.
I believe bronco wants that winning percentage up around .200 before he retires.
He has a lot of work to do to get to that level. He has his work cut out for
him indeed. Good luck bronco!
Can someone remind me how many times bronco beat ranked opponents and how many
times he has lost to ranked opponents?
It is probably for the best. There are few alternatives. Look for Riley to
be back as a graduate assistant.
"But if there’s any concern that Mendenhall’s priorities will
keep BYU from progressing, his record doesn’t show it"Really? I mean what is Bronco record against "Named" schools vs
Edwards record against "Named" schools?His record of 10 wins
includes alot of Powder puff schools.... AND no I am not a Ute
fan... Just not a fan of Bronco...by the way, the adminstration
wants the "Complete" football team, but if bronco keeps going the way he
is, the boosters will stop giving money and the church does not support the
sports program... so who will win?