That sounded like a pretty dumb editorial, in general. OTOH, how
would students of BYU react to BYU alums who turned around and criticized that
institution? Would their reactions be any different from those of the Harvard
student? Would *any* LDS member feel welcoming towards people who attended BYU
and then criticized it after graduation?
The Harvard Crimson is written by undergraduates, mostly sophomores and juniors
as far as I can tell. At that age, defensive, one-sided thinking is somewhat to
be expected (even at Harvard). I wouldn't get too hot and bothered about
what they wrote. Most of these students' viewpoints will become more mellow
with age and experience.
Right on, Harvard! What some of these sad neo cons should do is just zip it and
go get their degrees from Bob Jones University. See how that works for you.
Too bad for Harvard. I guess they aren't really into education as much as
indoctrination. How embarassing that people can think for themselves.
This piece epitomizes the totalitarian instinct, which is at the heart of
today's 'neo-liberalism.' Like Soviet Communism, Mao's
Socialism, and Hitler's Nazism, today's 'neo-liberals demand
total loyalty to the regime. There is no room for dissenters in their world
view. Like those three notoriously tyrannical regimes in history, they are
trying to implement a totalitarian vision, not only for Harvard, but for the
entire globe!I am ashamed of my alma mater.Jonathan L.
GalHarvard College '89
Here's my civil, thoughtful comments on this topic:Is Brigham
Young University open to valid criticism from alumni of any of their academic
procedures, positions or published papers?I attended faithfully for
2 years, took several honors classes and received an excellent education while
there. But I can also attest to the discouraging and/or suppressing of
independent, creative and/or non-mainline LDS discussion or debate.When an educational institution over-reaches its purview, it's time to
redefine the "educational" moniker. I agree that private institutions
have extensive freedom in their curricula and staff. But to limit or prevent
discussion of certain theological, historical or political subjects is not
"academic".If you want all your students in lock-step, then
advertize as such.
It seems apparent that Harvard remains solidlay on the LEFT side of the Charles
River despite its efforts to expand into Alston on the opposite side.
It was interesting to read the entire article and then the comments that
followed on that site. Just like here at the DN, the readers of the Harvard
Crimson are equally as irreverent in their comments to each other. And just
like the DN, the usual commenters (although not the majority of those commenting
here) seem to be of the opposite political stripe than the paper itself and the
position of the editorial. I think, ultimately, it is a great example of the
diversity within our population that people can have such differing opinions and
live peacefully (for the most part) with each other.If you have had
a chance to attend Harvard then you know their teaching method uses case studies
to provoke discussion and argument within the class population. There are
liberal and conservatives arguments made and everything in between. Often there
are no right or wrong answers but your grade is based on the soundness of the
arguments you make and whether or not you make those arguments. I think the
Harvard Crimson was just expressing dismay with those who have turned against
the school they love, usually for nothing more than political point making.
I'm sure there is a lesson to be learned from this latest salvo in the
ideological war but I'm just not sure what it is.
If the professors are Marxist and teach socialist ideologies in conjunction with
their curricula, you shouldn't be attending this school in first place. Why
open yourself up for criticism when expressing your core beliefs and disagreeing
with their ideology? I don't get the liberal mindset. I don't
understand why it's OK to be liberal and not OK to be conservative? Are we
all supposed to fall in lock step with their ideology when it's 180 degrees
from our own belief system? I don't think so. What is wrong with
criticizing an Institution whether you're conservative or liberal? We all
have the right to express our opinions. That must be why the Liberal
establishment is so obsessed with undermining the Constitution and taking away
the rights accorded by it. I say, we all have the right to agree or disagree
without letting it divide us. A house, or country, divided against itself cannot
stand. Is that why the Liberals in this country are so keen to cause these rifts
between people? Beware!!! You may be opening a real can of worms here.
Just another example of intolerance from the group that bills themselves as the
most tolerant of all people. The most straight-forward label for
this behavior is "Hypocrisy".
While I feel that it is as inappropriate for Harvard to tell conservatives not
to attend as it would be for BYU to have a "Republicans only" police,
I'm also not sure why anyone would want to attend a college that they hold
in such disrespect that they can only refer to it and its faculty in derogatory
terms after graduating.
Open discourse is encouraged. Unless you disagree with us.
Closed minded is closed minded no matter where one proclaims his ideology. So
much for the doctrine of civility and open exchange of ideas and philosophies
proposed by the Founding Fathers. Each would regurgitate their lunch at such a
Don't you just love it when the "open minded, diverse, inclusive,
non-judgemental, culturally sensitive, egalitarian, liberals" show their
The unmitigated gall. Don't attend and spend tens of thousands of dollars
annually? And besides, the amount of conservative students is very low. Seems a
little nitpicky to me.
So much for "diversity" and the "free exchange of ideas" and
"vigorous debate."Too many American colleges and
universities, especially the "big name" schools have become nothing but
socialist indoctrination camps.