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Published: Thursday, Feb. 28 2013 11:30 p.m. MST

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cal cougar
camarillo, CA

Anyone who thinks that basketball is a non-contact sport that does not involve intimidation is out of touch with reality. That does even happen in church ball.

These are males involved in a fight with a ball and hoop with some holds barred by the refs. To think differently is because you haven't played competitive basketball.

BYU didn't get shoved around like usual by Gonzaga. We did it to them. Kaufusi(Shaq) was the reason why this game was close. As long as he doesn't permanently hurt someone, I am good with his "football attitude". Even after the takedown of Olenyk, the other players did not dare touch him. He could tear one of their arms off. Let the Wookie win. I am glad that the Wookie is on our team. You have to put the fear in the other team or you lose. We are no longer viewed as the weak team you can push around and get your way.

Very proud of our BYU Cougars with "teeth". I haven't been able to say that about a BYU basketball team. Those whining about our rough play, glad they are whining and not us now.

WHAT NOW?
Saint George, UT

"...As long as he doesn't permanently hurt someone, I am good with his "football attitude"...".

A report is made after each contest. The league reviews the comments as well as the game tape.

Whomever officiates the BYU games in the WCC Tourney will be briefed regarding Kaufusi's play and behavior.

Kaufusi's style of play will be well monitored by officials during the tournament.

A repeat performance of last nights mugging will probably result in a Tech 2 including an ejection (as was recommended by the ESPN announcer last night).

The physical play of all involved (with the exception of Kaufusi) is typical of what teams will face in the NCAA Tourney.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

cal cougar, again, I'm not whining about it, I just think it's funny after all the whining that cougar fans made over the way Utah played in the Marriott, and that BYU doesn't play like that. Frankly, I enjoy physical basketball (but not flagrant basketball), but some people would rather watch teams put on a clinic in sprinting, layups and jumpshots, and don't think it's fair when other teams make it hard for them to do these things.

backpacn, that wasn't my point at all, but since you brought it up, let's compare the conferences:
8 Gonzaga 14 Arizona
45 SMC 22 Colorado
62 BYU 39 UCLA
93 Santa Clara 46 Cal
148 San Francisco 47 Oregon
179 San Diego 69 Stanford
199 Pepperdine 72 Washington
223 Portland 88 ASU
246 LMU 97 USC
175 Utah
186 OSU
194 Wazzu

Just like I said, Utah has a tough matchup nearly every time they step on the court, and just like they showed last night, if they aren't ready to go toe to toe physically and be ready to score, it's not pretty. BYU doesn't need to 75% of the time.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Down under, I don't know how many times I have to explain this, but in basketball there is no such thing as "WCC officials" or "Pac-12 officials." College basketball officiating is done on a regional basis, with most officials covering about 4 games a week, in this area mostly in the Pac, MWC, WCC, Wac, Big Sky, Big West and Great West conferences. The officials you're complaining about being worse than before are likely the same individuals who have officiated your games for the past 15+ years.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Kafusi should be done for the season, he has no business being on the basketball court. Rose must be proud of his enforcer. I lost all respect for BYU basketball last night.

IRS Agent
PROVO, UT

@StGtoSLC

You complain about BYU playing to physical, and then turn around and say that Utah has to be ready to go toe to toe physically with their opponents to compete. Do you not note the irony? BYU played the #1 team in the contry last night, and came out ready to go toe to toe physically with them. Kind of a double standard it seems.

@Spokane Ute

You lost all respect for BYU basketball last night? Really? Are you implying that you had respect for BYU basketball? Based on your comments on these boards, you have never expressed respect for anything BYU related. Sounds more like one more jab that is just thrown out there to imply that BYU was somehow on the same level as the U player that physically accosted the Y player on the baseline a few years back? Again, sounds like kind of a double standard based on an isolated incident. By the way, did you see how many times the BYU players help lift the opposing players up off the floor?

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

IRS Agent, what double standard? Read what I wrote:

"I just think it's funny after all the whining that cougar fans made over the way Utah played in the Marriott, and that BYU doesn't play like that. Frankly, I enjoy physical basketball (but not flagrant basketball)"

Let me make myself clear again: I have NO PROBLEM with a team playing physical, that is the coach's prerogative on how he wants his team to play. What is amusing to me is the fans who complain one week about how cheap it is that a team would play them that way, and another week their team takes it to another level and they defend it with their lives. THEREIN, my friend, is where the double standard lies. Read comprehensively, not selectively.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Sorry, my penultimate sentence was worded incorrectly. It should have read: Therein lies the double standard.

OmahaCoug
Omaha, NE

idablu, I agree with you about Josh Sharp. Where's he gone? From starting to sitting on the bench and playing the least of anyone against the Zags last night.

Saltvegas
Las Vegas, Nevada

Hockey has a name for a player with the talents and style of Kaufusi..."Goon."

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

StGtoSLC

"Just like I said, Utah has a tough matchup nearly every time they step on the court, and just like they showed last night, if they aren't ready to go toe to toe physically and be ready to score, it's not pretty. BYU doesn't need to 75% of the time."

Lots of hyperbole there, but you're ignoring that fact that Utah started the season playing one of the weakest OOC schedules in the country, including NAIA and Div II teams that don't even count in Utah's RPI.

The disparity in SOS is negligible.

BYU #67 SOS
Utah #52 SOS

But, the disparity in RPI and record is huge.

#62 BYU(20-10)
#176 Utah(11-16)

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Wow, look at the square holes I'm trying drive round pegs into. Solomon Levi, my quote that backpacn replied to was: "BYU does that while going into nearly every game as the favored team in such a weak conference," so he/she brings up the overall strength of schedule ratings to make the conference seem better, so I showed just how weak it is. Now YOU are trying to talk about non-conference, and say "BYU's team is better than Utah." I know that! They played a game to determine that.

What I remarked on is the discrepancy in what some people consider a "hackfest:" the team that fouls over 18 times per game against conference teams with an average RPI 79 places below their own, or the team that fouls 15 times per game against conference teams with an average RPI 94 places better than their own?

Feel free to take any of that out of context, and completely ignore my point that nobody seems to want to acknowledge. But get back to me, the response will be amusing either way.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

@ IRS Agent

Yes I did. I had a ton of respect for BYU hoops back in the Danny Ainge, Fred Roberts, Devin Durrant era. I also have respect for the teams in the Jimmer Ferdette era. Teams that played good. They played tough, but they werent' cheap. What Davis and especially Kafusi did against Gonzaga was cheap and dirty! Did you even notice how Kafusi stood over the guy he just mauled; an how his team mates had to pull him back? I'm sorry if the truth hurts; but that's exactly what it is. Rose should have benched Kafusi after the first flagarant foul, but he didnt'.

@ stGtoSLC

You are spot on; as usual!

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