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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 26 2013 1:05 p.m. MST

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skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

The timeline seems to be a little out of sync.

If the bank robbery occurred at approximately 4:15 p.m., how did the car chase begin at the hotel at approximately 4:00 p.m. Did this guy really stop to commit a bank robbery during a high-speed chase?

Anyway, it's good to see such a dangerous criminal off the streets for good.

jean22
Bountiful, UT

@ skywalker:

The bank robbery was on Friday. The car chase was on Monday.

Reasonable Person
Layton, UT

skywalker, the bank robbery was on Friday.

Bearone
Monroe, UT

@ Skywalker

Just a note---you missed something.... The robbery occurred on Friday, the chase and shooting occurred Monday. I agree with you that it is good he is no longer a danger to us.

H-man
Shreveport, LA

To skywalker:

Re-read the article. The bank robbery was on Friday. The suspect was found at the motel on Monday and the chase began.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

This whole thing could have been avoided IF Utah passed a 3-strikes law for repeat offenders.

pb
Vernal, UT

Did he deserve to be shot?

VST
Bountiful, UT

"Did he deserve to be shot?"

Yes – he raised his weapon to a shooting position and pointed it at the officers.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

VST
Bountiful, UT
"Did he deserve to be shot?"

Yes – he raised his weapon to a shooting position and pointed it at the officers.

5:43 p.m. Feb. 26, 2013

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Sources please.

I saw the video, and never saw him raising his weapon.

Witnesses only reported "hearing" shots,
and saw the man refusing to "drop" the weapon.

[...you know, excercing his "2nd amendment right" and not being "infringed" by the evil "government" just like you guys on the right are always prouding yapping about.

no one has said anything about him shooting, or even "raising" his weapon in a threatening manner.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

VST
Bountiful, UT
"Did he deserve to be shot?"

Yes – he raised his weapon to a shooting position and pointed it at the officers.

5:43 p.m. Feb. 26, 2013

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8 hours of closing the Interstate,
with over 20 professional police officers witnessing the event.

Sounds hardly like a clear open and shut case.

With that sort of investigation, it seems someone screwed up BIG time.

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

He should have been in jail. Going easy on criminals never helps them and always risks the public. We are fortunate that he did not shoot a policeman or take a hostage.

Elcapitan
Ivins, UT

He deserved it by threatening law officers. they did what they were trained to do, protect themselves from being shot while doing their duty. I thought everyone was aware of this right of a law officer.

It is also a right given any law abiding citizen to protect themselves against such a threat with deadly force.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@LDS Liberal,

I will quote two paragraphs from that article for your reading pleasure:

"As troopers sped ahead of the fleeing vehicle to block traffic – at times shutting down both northbound and southbound lanes – Knight would wave a gun at them, according to Baird. Because of the danger Knight posed, the decision was made to continue the chase. "He was displaying a weapon and pointing it in the direction of officers," Baird said."

Then, after he was finally stopped:

"After sitting in his vehicle for a minute or two, Knight got out and could initially be seen holding a gun at his side. Law enforcers drew their guns and positioned themselves behind their vehicles. Not long afterward, his gun was raised and he was shot."

higv
Dietrich, ID

I was headed down to watch Boston and Utah play basketball when one police blocked one lane and while taking a detour another police detoured the road. Saw no cars on road and KSL chopper. Had another Jam on way home from game. Unfortunate things like that happen. One chase and one accident did jam our traffic on the way home.

LifeLibertyHappiness
Draper, UT

@ LDS Liberal,

Were you there?

Monday morning quarterbacking and judging the police officers without being there and knowing the facts is incredibly shallow. Easy to judge from a distance. The police were involved in the chase for approximately 40 miles, saw the man waving a gun around, blocked exits to protect citizens, and fired because he raised a gun. They were there. They've been trained for years to handle situations like this.

It's a terrible, tragic end to a young man's life who could have made different choices and not been in this situation. But we don't know his story either. So rather than judge, the best we can do is learn and work to help others who are at risk so they don't make the same mistakes.

Elcapitan
Ivins, UT

Suicied by Cop? It happens more often than we think with people who can not cope with the laws of the land.

SLCWatch
Salt Lake City, UT

Dear pb:
As a retired police officer with 32 years of service I would like to answer your sincere question. Your question is one every police officer asks himself often and repeatedly (sometimes several times in a single shift). The officer must decide if the behavior of others often influnenced by drugs, alcohal, extreme emotion and mental illness is a threat to the officers personal safety, the surrounding public, hostages, and anyone else. He must do so repeatedly during pursuits with high levels of adreniline, in physical struggles, following intense confrontations with screaming threatening behavior and with changing levels of threat. He often gets no backup in split second confrontations. He has to think how others in the situation are changing the dynamics radically and the threat often comes from seemingly innocent bystanders in a split second. That four professional, experienced and trained officers in this case came to the same conclusion in a fraction of a second and reacted in a split second without consultation with each other I would have to say that the suspect had left them with only one other option. I told my guys, "everyone goes home at the end of shift."

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Open Minded Mormon, a liberal like you shouldn't be advocating for three strikes you're out laws. How uncivilized of you. I thought all you liberals quaked at the prospect of denying someone their civil rights or keeping them in prison for life for less than major offenses.

Any law like that would not have applied anyway. I see, from reading the article, that his cases were mostly plea bargained to misdemeanors, and none of his convictions were for forcable felonies.

This guy might have been in jail had it not been for the plea bargains. Blame the prosecutors.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

@SLCwatch

Good comment. It does highlight the split second decisions that our police officers must make in high stress, life threatening situations.

I can only imagine the countless hours of training needed to prepare someone for these types of situations.

I wonder. How do you feel, as a trained law enforcement person, about the proliferation of CCP by average citizens with limited training and experience.

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