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Published: Monday, Feb. 25 2013 8:25 a.m. MST

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Swiss
Price, Utah

A question that I havent seen asked is how much pollution does the prison add or subtract from the pollution problem in the bowl.
Could the prisioners be trained to work in the hi tech industries that would have to build around it if not allowed to build through it.

Spiff
Salt Lake City, UT

If the prison is moved too far away, I guarantee you over 2/3 of the current guards will quit or retire. I know, I am one. The many people who volunteer will no longer, since the prison will be too far away. Where are these money projections coming from? Are they from some Privately run prison company that wants to take over the prison system here in Utah by saying how much money can be saved? Look at the prison escapes in other states. Privately run prisons, do we what this here in Utah?

mightyhunterhaha
Kaysville, UT

Put it to the people of the State for a Vote. If it passes then assign realors from St. george, Delta and Tremonton to have the sales. That would help the smaller communites and and fairness to the process. No one from Salt Lake or Utah conunt should be invloved with the sale or profit in any form. No business associate or family member of any Gov. official, past committees or Draper should be allowed to participate with any sales or profit.

Elcapitan
Ivins, UT

It is all about money and who gets most of it into his pocket. The relocation of the old territorial prison brought speculators from all quarters wanting to develop it for themselves.

The site was saved by a Sugar House Merchant who rallied support to preserve the site as a park and school site. A look back at history and what can be done by a few forward looking citizens willing to fight the big money establishment.

Utah Dem
Ogden, UT

Okay let's see if I understand this - it would cost $600 mil to move the prison, and a new prison would save $20 mil to maintain (over how many years?), then we could sell the current 690 acres for $202,898 per acre (in Draper, really?). Then POM site would create 40,000 jobs (from whom?), and bring in $20 bil (over how long?). Sorry I did not see a cost for a new prison
Fortunately I don't know about the prison system, do the inmates pay any costs to be there?
Then we also have many schools In our state older than 62 years and with a much better purpose yet the legislature doesn't even want to spend money to find out their structural needs.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

With all the hype about crime being at record lows maybe we don't need it. Just let the current batch of inmates attrition out.
What? The data does not track with the reality? Hmmm.

CynicJim
Taylorsville, UT

My house is the same age as the prison and therefore needs replacing, how do I get my property on such a replacement list. If I gotta live in my 'out of date' ol' place, the prison does too! I could also use a new sofa.

Harley Rider
Small Town, CT

And who benefits with moving the Prison ? Not the Tax Payer, however the Fat Cats - Politicians , Developers , Bankers , Public Officials certainly will.

By the Way - All Prisons and County Jails - Need to be turned into farms , factories , labor support services etc , as Tax Payers can no longer afford to pay for the feeding , clothing , health care , dental care , shoes , cable tv , and the basic running of day to day operations of prisons and jails - So let these criminals start learning that do a stupid criminal offense and guess what - Ya Gotta Pay Your Way - and that's the way it should be

slpa1
West Jordan, UT

@1conservative

You're right on the mark. I'll even name names. His name is Al Mansell, as in Mansell Reality, also as in former Senate President Al Mansell. When this idea came up a couple of years ago, Mansell tried to get the legislature to sneak a bill through that would eliminate some of the bidding processes. I think the press got on it, and it disappeared.

The idea of having the prison be in some remote area is naturally appealing, as we feel somehow safer if the inmates are far away. It is important to remember, that a prison requires a huge support system of transportation, medical, prison programs, guards and other employees, and so on. The infrastructure has to be in place, and there has to be a community for the employees to live. That means schools, churches, stores, gas stations, and so on.

Building a prison in a remote area is a huge and expensive undertaking. Creating all the necessary infrastructure can create a lot of jobs. However, there are still the transportation and medical expenses that will be ongoing, and that do not create jobs or generate revenue.

New to Utah
PAYSON, UT

This article clearly indicated that the useful life of the prison in most areas
is 25-30 years. Those areas that need to be replaced could be razed and replaced.
Moving the prison is possibly the worst idea elected leaders have concocted in decades.
If this select committee is able to bond Utah Taxpayers there needs to be a way to
legally demand total accountabliltiy and stop the process. The comments are spot on it is something that needs to be stopped. Citizen input needs to happen, The claim of 40,000 jobs and $40 billion benefit really borders on fantasy and deceit. Citizens of Utah are being taken
for complete fools and a taxpayer rebellion would certainly be in order.

mightyhunterhaha
Kaysville, UT

Get ready for the new Sincrete fiasco. The State tried Sincrete o fix he freeways and had to pay over double what they planned as Sincrete was a huge failure. The prison move will be the same. It will make some people rich but cost us he citizens millions of dollars. And yes we will have to pay for it.

raybies
Layton, UT

There are ways to move the prison closer to where the criminals are in the state, and build in an area currently not being used for much other than criminal activity. Move the prison to downtown Ogden. The city's main strip is full of empty office buildings. There are abandoned warehouses, parking garages, factories, all prime locations for a new place. And the majority of prisoners come either from there, or West Valley.

Think "Win-Win"... It's time the prison moved... it's way too close to Provo, which we all know does not produce criminals.

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