Rather than a dictate from the legislature, which won't take into effect
the current efforts in many schools. Just send over a request to the State
Office of Ed that they work out a policy. At least it would be people who
understand the system making policy rather than our part-time legislators using
their sledgehammer to kill a fly.
@Irony GuyThe Court has already ruled that the Legislature may not
Legislate educational policy and/or curriculum matters. They may direct the
State Board of Education to create policy. Distribution of power is part of the
system of checks and balances. I do not disagree that parents should be
alerted if a school is aware of bullying. If a statewide policy is to be
created rather than local policy, the Governor or Legislature should follow
established procedure by directing the State Board of Education to create such a
policy. Anything the Legislature creates as educational policy or curriculum
can and should be struck down as unconstitutional.
How about some legislation requiring parents to take responsibility for their
children and find out what is going on with them at school?
I sincerely doubt this kid showed no warning signs that he was contemplating
suicide. A parent shouldn't need a teacher to call them to let them know
there are issues with their own kid. The parent should be calling the teacher
to see if there are any problems at school. All in all this is a bad situation
and I feel bad for the parents but I have a real problem with them blaming the
school for their kid's suicide.
Why is legislation necessary? Teach children to defend themselves. Schools
should be held accountable. Hot lines are needed and discipline enforced for
I'm even more saddened about this child's death knowing that he was
attending a charter school. Somehow we tend to think that moving our children
to charter/private schools will help, but apparently not. I don't know how
children who are in loving homes can respond to others in the way they do. I
don't know, and I'm not looking for faults in anyone. It's just
a mystery to me. My heart is sad for you.
Parents should always be made aware of their childs problems at school.
Jim Nielson's reading of the state constitution is blindered. Article 1
ensures every Utahn the right to state protection against harm. As agencies of
the state, the public schools are required to do their utmost to protect
innocent children from assault and bullying. That it would require a state law
to do so is a shame, but it's surely not "unconstitutional." Wake
Bravo to Representative Nielson. The Legislature sometimes seems to pick and
choose which portions of the Constitution it chooses to follow. The State Board
of Education may be directed by the Legislature to create policy. The
Legislature does not have Constitutional authority to create policy or
curriculum. Either we adhere to our Constitution or we don't, folks.
We can't complain about the Federal Government trampling our
Constitutional rights if we do it ourselves right here at home.
So lets see if I have this right a bill that requires parental notification of
bullying and suicide threats maybe outside what the legislature should be
getting involved in but requiring parents consent and presence for a child under
18 to get a body piercing or tattoo is not and a law requiring abortion data be
reported to the legislature for no apparent reason is also well within what they
should be doing?
Here's an idea - the parents can talk to their children about their school
day and get involved at the school. Surely there were some signs manifested at
home that would indicate that something was going on. Why didn't the
parents contact the school? At what point will the parents be expected to take
some responsibility?Another question - how is "bullying" being
defined in this bill? Do parents have to sign something any time there is any
kind of incident at school? Seems like a logistical nightmare. How will it be
All of us should be responsible for watching out for young people. Schools,
parents, etc. It appears we need to do a better job of communicating,
developing trusting relationships, and providing lots of opportunities to
problem solve. We also need to provide counseling, and teach both the bully and
the bullied coping skills. Let's solve the problems, once and for all.