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Sen. Orrin Hatch warns sequestration could hit Utah hard, says it may be needed

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  • BrentBot Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 4:17 a.m.

    The problem we have is the Washington elite (including Senator Hatch) haven't worked in private industry. A well-run company requires a 5 percent budget reduction for every activity, each year. Then, if justified, new activities are approved. For heaven's sakes, this sequestration is only 2.5 percent!

    Seven of the top ten counties with highest income are in the Washington DC Metro area. Most bureaucrats could lose pay for one day per week, with a concomitant 20 percent pay reduction. That's what many companies were forced to do during the Depression.

    The bureaucrats work for us; we don't work for them!

  • dawgdeelux saratoga springs, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 6:35 p.m.

    $85 billion bucks is a drop in the ocean to these guys. Think about that for a moment, $85,000,000,000.00 is almost meaningless to our Federal Government UNTIL they want to foster political gain then all of the sudden it's enough to make or break the economy. Get real Orin, some of us actually understand the Federal Governments lack of fiscal responsibility. You do not scare us with your speeches you scare us with your actions.

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 1:27 a.m.

    @Ernest

    Does it make sense to make sweeping Military Budget cuts while other power nations China and Russia for example are far outspending the U.S. to rise above us as military powers?

    You commented that Bush spent us into oblivion and Obama has been more fiscally responsible. Seriously? Do you have any solid data to support this generalized claim? The problem is not with Republicans, the problem is with Politicians.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 10:28 a.m.

    The warter is rising. those who voted for the Obama spending spree are about to be brought to their senses and that is what this president wants. He is after total power spearheading the drive for the Democrats. One can not violate economic laws year after year and have it not come to and unhappy end. Wake up young America.

  • Alfred Ogden, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 12:32 a.m.

    @Scoundrel:
    "This about-face from Hatch is a laughing stock."

    Try to remember that politicians prevaricate. They say one thing to get elected, then they do what they dang well please. If you'll remember, that's what Obama worked it. Case in point... he once fought for sequestration now he's against it.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 11:13 p.m.

    "President Obama's budget did not get 1 vote from his party in the senate."

    President Obama's budget has never gone up for a vote in the senate. It is amazing how misinformed conservatives are. And it seems like they don't mind being misinformed.

  • Gregorio Norco, CA
    Feb. 21, 2013 3:34 p.m.

    President Obama came up with this idea if the 8 senators back in August 2011 could not agree to the cuts needed. We are getting exactly what the majority of Americans voted for last November.

    The solution is easy: Senate pass a budget of your own which you haven't done for four years! The house passed their budget to avoid this mess. President Obama's budget did not get 1 vote from his party in the senate. Ground hog day is fast approaching with automatic cuts to the middle class who work at the base.

  • Justmythoughts Provo, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 2:57 p.m.

    I thought sequestration cut GROWTH.....only the increase. If we can pay for it now ...why would there be cuts at Hill Air Force base? If it is not new spending then there shouldn't be any "cuts". Am I wrong?

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 2:06 p.m.

    If Congress was serious about fixing the budget they would put their budget that pays their staff up on the cutting block. How quick do you think they would fix the deficit problems if you reduced their federally paid staff to 1 secretary each?

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Feb. 21, 2013 1:04 p.m.

    As always, the chickens come home to roost, Senator!

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 12:34 p.m.

    "The furloughs would result in an 11.5 percent cut to the average annual salary for a civilian employee, nearly $7,800, Hatch said."

    That would be ok since government employees are grossly overpaid anyway compared to the average private salary. And by the way, Congress persons are grossly overpaid as well for what they do.

    @TeaPublican: "Let’s talk the truth here! We TeaPublicans know that these sequester cuts are the direct result of Republican demand in 2011..."

    Not entirely correct. It was Obama who pushed for the sequester... now he is trying his best to fight it. What's wrong with this guy? That's what we get for electing a socialist foreigner as US President.

    @mcclark: "Before the Bush tax cuts we were running a surplus, ever since we have been running a deficit. What needs to be done is pretty clear to me."

    The deficit can be attributed mostly to the housing market collapse... which was basically the fault of two Democrats... Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. Both of which left Congress, probably in disgrace for causing the biggest fiasco since the Great Depression.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 11:44 a.m.

    For a President that hasn't had a real budget for his 4 years in office and a Senate that won't push the House version or their own version forward, it is not a real threat for anything as we have gotten by for 4 years on erasable markers anyway. The Secretary of the Treasury hopefully won't go back to his position on the New York Federal Reserve Board where Wall Street and the majority of all large banks are located. The bailout monies from Bush and Obama were given to help these people who have robbed our bank accounts and the ability of the United States of America to have their highest credit rating.

    We should have better people in those Federal Reserve boards that have honesty and integrity as part of their position description and not who makes the most even when their corporation loses everything on their backs. It doesn't make sense that we gave people that failed their own institutions bonuses when the people of America still are lapsing in their own retirement and bank accounts.

    We live in a time of immorality in all aspects of work, business, personal, governmental and political ethics.

  • very concerned Sandy, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 10:47 a.m.

    Obama is on pace to out-spend Bush. And with Obamacare, I wouldn't be surprised if the deficit baloons in the next few years. However, I probably should have calmed down before sending the previous message.

    My main point was that purposely proposing specific solutions they know won't fly is a lousy way to govern.

    To clarify another point, I'm actually not a fan of ANY president/congress (Republican or Democrat) who spends the way we've been seeing the last 20-30 years. Apparently our politicians don't see the obvious, that at some point it will catch up to us. How short-sighted. Just due to sound economic principles alone, we're in for a rough time financially because of the federal deficit.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    The sequestration seemed to be designed originally as a poison pill, to force a solution. Now it may be the solution.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    re: Very Concerned. Where was your outrage when Bush spent us into oblivion? After all, Obama has proven to be more fiscally responsible than Bush's White House.

  • very concerned Sandy, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 9:55 a.m.

    Unbelievable. The Democratic party spending us into oblivion, all the while setting up negotiations to fail. And I don't have a lot of sympathy for fanatical tea-partiers either. Say what you will about Senator Hatch. He's kind of strange, but he at least seems to understand the issues and doesn't take an all-or-nothing approach.

    We've got a lot of people in Washington who are unwilling to work together, not willing to compromise, who are idealogues, get paid really well, have more benefits than you can shake a stick at, and can't see past their own agendas for anything.

    In days past, I remember legislators of both parties were more willing to compromise. Today's politicians should read some good historical books. The worst of it is the practice of setting things up to fail; purposely and stubbornly proposing specific solutions they know the other side can't accept and doing so just to remain *blameless*; giving themselves a reason to throw up their hands and point the finger instead of solving the problems. Are they really that disinterested in the country's well-being? Apparently so.

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 9:52 a.m.

    Let sequestration happen. This is not Armageddon. The Federal Government spends too much including military spending. We always talk about the waste in social programs, but there is waste in military spending also. $85 billion is nothing. Cut more!!!!

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Feb. 21, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    Would rather be owned by china, or cut spending?
    I say slash the federal government by 80%, but no cuts on military.
    Oh yea, and cut all czars.

  • tll Ogden, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 9:17 a.m.

    Sure it's the only answer, as long as it doesn't affect politicians personally. Limit terms to 4 years; no elitist benefits. No ability to vote themselves pay raises and benefits.. Quit sending our tax dollars to other countries. Take care of our own first. My husband works hard at his job out at the base. He goes tdy for months on end. He earns his pay. While I am grateful we still have some money coming in, all benefits have stopped because he is now considered 'part time'. Nobody is talking about that. Hours cut therefore benefits stopped. Cut spending from the top down. Walk the walk and then maybe I'll believe the talk.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 21, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    Yes the deficit has risen quite a bit under Obama. No doubt about it.

    But, just curious.

    How much do you think the deficit would have been had John McCain been elected?

    The main deficit drivers are Military, Medicare and Social Security.

    Seriously. What would be different under McCain.

    Heck, or Romney for that matter?

    In some ways, those on the right should be thankful McCain didnt win. Cause the deficits were projected to skyrocket regardless of who the president was.

  • BYUtah Fan Herriman, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    This is great. It reminds me of back when prop 13 was passed in California. Government officials were squealing like stuck pigs. But, when it actually took effect, no one noticed the difference. We may have hit on a formula for reducing this horrific growth of federal spending. When the sequester happens and the sky does not fall. Then lets do sequester round 2. Lets keep doing it until the sky starts to crack and then we can back off a bit.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 9:02 a.m.

    @Someone Pinch Me
    That's supposed to be 855 dollars, not 8.55 in your example.

  • Yak_Herder Lehi, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 8:57 a.m.

    This is the same guy who spent months campaigning on the idea that "we" need someone with experience and tenure representing Utah who will protect our interests in Washington, D.C., correct?

  • all hands on deck Sandy, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    Is Senator Hatch for or against more spending? WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM. Sequestration is only a trickle of what really needs to happen to reign in the federal government. Yes, in the short term it will hurt. Getting off crack is hard! It will be harder when the whole thing crashes down.

  • andyjaggy American Fork, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 8:51 a.m.

    The amount they are talking about is such a small number in regards to what we spend every year, but our politicians use every tactic known to strike fear into our hearts so we will keep voting for them. It's pennies in the bucket, and I simply don't believe that it will effect our national security or defense in any meaningful or significant way. I just don't buy it. We already spend waaay more than anyone else on defense spending.

  • Moabmom Moab, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 8:41 a.m.

    @Hawkeye79 FYI - recount the zeros in Pinch Me final figure. He did keep it real. It really sucks when the state of the nation is brought down to easily understood numbers. Shows just how out of touch with reality this administration and it's policies really are. (nice try at deflecting the truth, too bad it didn't work).

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Feb. 21, 2013 8:26 a.m.

    I wish our "leaders" could manage a compromise. If they can't, bring on sequestration. This will still be too little to fix our government's spending problem. We have a spending problem, not a taxing problem.

    We need LEADERS with ideas, strength, and resolve - not politicians.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 21, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    Hi Someone Pinch Me,

    FYI - you removed 10 zeroes from the final figure.

    Keep it real!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 7:56 a.m.

    Hatch and other repubs claim the government can't create jobs but once you start talking about defense cuts and closing bases, their heads practically split open.
    Obama needs to do two things ASAP:
    1-raise taxes to the level they were under Clinton
    2-Cut spending, starting with the military.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 7:40 a.m.

    Sequestration is not needed. This is the most absurd controversy, the most contrived, in my decades in being in and observing public service. Hatch, you need to do your job, once and for all. Stop the political party games. You can huff and puff all you like, but you are not doing your job. Even though you claim to not be interested in running again, you are not playing the role of the adult, the role of the statesman, but instead are faciliating political posturing that is hariming the American people. You have shown glimmers of statesmanship in the past, but ever since you started running for re-election and after winning in Novermber, you have slipped back into irrational conservatism. You and your boys can point the blame at the President or the Democrats, but you control the House, and you can make things stop and go in the Senate. You need to get it done. The President doesn't authorize spending, you do. So stop the blame game and do your job!

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 21, 2013 7:38 a.m.

    "If not now, when do we start making cuts?"

    When?

    Well, that would be as soon as our congress looks seriously at Social Security, Medicare and Defense.

    There is absolutely NOWHERE else to start.

    The problem is that the dems dont like cutting SS and Med and the Reps dont like cutting defense.

    Nothing of meaning will happen until there can be compromise on those big 3.

    There is no sense in looking elsewhere until these have been addressed.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Feb. 21, 2013 7:38 a.m.

    @ThomasJefferson - your numbers just don't add up. I fail to see how you claims make any sense what so ever.

    "Going to cost folks $7800, drop in the bucket to the over 200K the tax raises cost my business which, sorry folks, turned into lost jobs and a pay freeze for 2013!"

    Listen, I have done BD for two ot the two wealthiest men in America. My current employeer has made money, and grown every year, for the last 32 years. Same can be said for my last employer. If you can't make money in today's economy, it isn't the economies or taxes fault. Week in, week out, companies are still setting financial records.

    I don't say this to be mean, but perhaps you need to take another look at the business model. The world is a far different environment than it was 20 years ago. Companies are continously morphing to adapt to new rules of the game. Blamming a party, a president, or anyone else is diverting responsibility away, which dooes nothing to make the org more competitive. Everyone has the same issues...

    Obama is not responsible for your companies financial performance.

  • Someone Pinch Me WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 6:47 a.m.

    This rather brilliantly cuts thru all the political doublespeak we get. It puts it into a much better perspective.

    Lesson # 1:

    * U.S. Tax revenue: $2,170,000,000,000
    * Fed budget: $3,820,000,000,000
    * New debt: $ 1,650,000,000,000
    * National debt: $16,271,000,000,000
    * Proposed budget cuts: $ 85,500,000,000

    Let's now remove 8 zeros and pretend it's your household budget:

    * Annual family income: $21,700
    * Money the family spent: $38,200
    * New debt on the credit card: $16,500
    * Outstanding balance on the credit card: $162,710
    * Proposed budget cuts so far: $8.55

    Got It ?????

    If not now, when do we start making cuts?

  • Itsjstmeagain Merritt Island, Fl
    Feb. 21, 2013 6:28 a.m.

    Stop bashing and using dedicated civil servants to sacrifice. Start canceling worthless and cost overrun programs that will save billions in life cycle costs. The Air Force just canceled a $1 billion parts traching program that resulted in nothing. They canceled another $2 Billion in failed programs. Gg

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 6:16 a.m.

    Don't tell us how bad it "could be". Tell us exactly what the effect will be. Just another politician giving vague ideas to scare us into borrowing money that we can't afford, to impress countries we don't like, to buy things that we don't need.

    What should have happened was and is to do a sequester on social programs. Then you would be amazed at how fast demos will get off of their hands to protect their ever needy base.

  • Mugabe ACWORTH, GA
    Feb. 21, 2013 5:56 a.m.

    Danaslc: We don't live in a republic period. Here is some facts that we should all be aware of"

    James Traficant's U.S. Bankruptcy Speech
    The Bankruptcy of The United States
    United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303
    Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

    "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees
    presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

    It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

  • raybies Layton, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 5:55 a.m.

    Fwiw, Sequestration is a pay cut to all federal employees that are deemed nonessential.

    I understand the need to trim spending levels. I can even support tax increases if we weren't going to just turn around and spend it before we even have the tax revenues. But sequestration is a poor solution to forcing spending cuts. Essentially it punishes many who aren't making that much, but perform essential jobs in keeping our country safe and functioning.

    We need responsible controlled spending. This is like hammering a nail in a fine piece of furniture by attempting to back a steamroller over the top of it.

    It's irresponsible government, and I believe both parties are to blame. The democrats have to give on their spending levels, the republicans need so let the wealthier pay the same percentages of taxes that the middle class pays.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 21, 2013 5:49 a.m.

    Ryan took credit for the sequester in August 2011, bragging to Fox News that it guaranteed the massive budget cuts Republicans were seeking. “We got that in law,” he boasted. On the House floor, he said the Budget Control Act’s spending cuts were “a victory for those committed to controlling government spending.”

    These automatic spending cuts came into place because it gave our congress a way to "kick the can down the road" rather than doing their job.

    They were like little children. They basically devised a plan that was so distasteful to both parties that it would force them to work together. Big surprise that it didn't work.

    You folks can blame the Republicans. You can blame the Democrats. You can blame Obama.

    WHO CARES.

    We have a dysfunctional government across the board. Quit pointing fingers to satisfy your partisanship.

    This is pathetic. And YOUR congressmen are to blame. And Washington is more about deflecting blame than fixing the problem.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 1:36 a.m.

    I've been told by conservatives that government doesn't create jobs and that the deficit is the number one problem so this should be perfectly fine to let go through right?

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 10:48 p.m.

    I thought the protection of Utah and Utahn's interests was one of the major reasons we needed Hatch back in Congress. We heard how his experience would make a big difference. Now that the votes are in, his (Hatch's) loyalties have shifted again. What do we expect from someone who has been a politician longer than I have been alive.

    The problem lies with the people, because we allow men/women to be elected and re-elected who are first and only concerned about themselves. In the last two elections (maybe more) the vote difference between the winner and loser of the Presidential Election was less than the number of eligible voters who chose to stay home on election day. People choose not to vote and that's a problem.

  • Heidi T. Farmington, Utah
    Feb. 20, 2013 10:35 p.m.

    Why, why, why did we vote Hatch in. Maybe we should sequester the payback revenues he receives from pharmaceuticals. Just take our money and let us defend ourselves and add to the jobless numbers. Clean up after Obama and Hatch agrees. What a Dufus.

  • Swiss Price, Utah
    Feb. 20, 2013 10:00 p.m.

    All wage earners took a 2% pay cut to cover FICA Medicare. Now a 2.3% reduction in the growth of Federal spending will cause the end of US.
    We are taxed enough already so how else are we to keep government spending growing to devour the entire gdp. Maybe a start would be to take the guaranteed pensions away from Obama and the Congress. Let them retire on social security and FERS. Then maybe they won't be so interested in spending all the taxes entrusted to their tender loving care or maybe theyll just resign q

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:44 p.m.

    The election is over. Senator Hatch is a rino again.

  • ParkCityAggie Park City, Ut
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:44 p.m.

    "if it's what we need to get some fiscal responsibility in the federal government" Really? Fiscal responsibility is our goal? I suppose we consider giving unnecessary subsidies and tax breaks to large oil companies who reap huge profits to be "fiscally responsible"? How about ending corporate welfare? Wouldn't THAT be fiscally responsible? Can't pick on the "job creators" (LOL) indeed. I suppose that cutting thousands of jobs when the economy and economic recovery is still fragile is also fiscally responsible right?

  • Swiss Price, Utah
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:39 p.m.

    If it going to hurt Hill that bad think what it will do to the DC area.

  • oldasdirt Grantsville, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    Okay let us massage these number. According to Senator Hatch those 11000 employees make a little less the 70K per year. I have lost two thirds of my income pay over the last 4 years, they will have to adjust like everyone else. Now the 11100 employees getting furlough for 71 days, that works out to 2700 missing each day, since hopefully not all 11100 will be gone at the same time. So that makes a total work force per day at 8250, Am I the only one who has worked for the feds and noticed that about 30% of the workers are not needed. Sounds like this is a good step forward.

  • Kings Court Alpine, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:33 p.m.

    Another example of the D.C. two-step. Why is Hatch complaining about something that he says is needed? If it is a bad thing, then remove it. If it is a good thing, then tout it. C'mon, Hatch, do you really think the average voter is this stupid? Even Rush Limbaugh can't figure out the current line of thinking coming from the GOP in their efforts to have it both ways.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:30 p.m.

    Mcclark,
    You cannot have a surplus when gross federal debt increases, which it did every year under clinton.

    Go ahead and repeal ALL the bush tax cuts, it will raise the effective rates for low and moderate income earners more than for the top brackets

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:32 p.m.

    The TARP or bailout monies given to the auto manufacturers, banks, wall street that went for company bonuses should be given back with interest, especially for the CEOs and Federal Reserve people that managed those types of industries. We knew the ax would fall and President's Bush and Obama along with Congressional officers should fall in line for sequestration. Those that were just elected may be exempt but those that pushed the results of sequestration until after the election should double their time off and their frequent flyer miles given to the Treasury for use to get the $85B up to par. This is only a power play and no real benefit for the citizens that abound in this country, legal and not.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:03 p.m.

    Sequestration is boehner's baby.

    boehner touted the sequester to republicon house members in 2011.

    boehner loved sequestration before it became politically toxic.

    "...Recalling the negotiations of 2011, initially the President desired a clean increase in the debt ceiling — as preceding Presidents had recieved with little fight — and Boehner's GOP wanted cuts.

    After the negotiation guaranteed $1.4 trillion of deficit reduction in exchange for a debt ceiling increase, Boehner was very pleased.

    In an interview with CBS' Scott Pelley from August 2011, Boehner conveys that he was very pleased with the result of the negotiation:

    Boehner: When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the White House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy...".

  • Darth Vader Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 7:37 p.m.

    Everyone on the government payroll, top to bottom, should tighten their belt.

    Who cares who gets the credit for the sequestration. Long over due.

    Now lets balance the budget and stop spending other people's money.

    Just think, if we live within our means we can kick the can down the road - that being chaos or the next revolution.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 7:36 p.m.

    What needs to happen won't happen until the voter base wakes up and dumps these glib-tongued politicians.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Feb. 20, 2013 7:27 p.m.

    @ Mikhail...

    A few differing voices...

    "Sequestration “would destroy the military” and cause an “inability to defend the nation” argued Senator John McCain, ranking member of the Senate Armed Services committee. “Cuts of this magnitude would be catastrophic to the military,” testified General Raymond Odierno, the Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army, to Congress. “From a pure national security perspective, the gap between the U.S. military and our closest rivals will collapse with sequestration,” wrote the Washington Times. And it would create a U.S. military akin to a “paper tiger…unable to keep up with potential adversaries.” said Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta. “In effect, it invites aggression.”

    So I don't know. I get what you are saying.... if we are only rolling the budget back 2 years... dang - no big deal. But there has to be more to all of this.

    But i am still all for calling the bluff.... lets buckle up and head off the cliff..... and see if it really is all that bad.

  • mcdugall Layton, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 7:16 p.m.

    @Hunt - "Sorry buddy, but sequestration was Obama's idea. " Not sure about the truth of that statement but let's assume it is true. Obama does not have the power to legislate, that comes from the House of Representatives, which is controlled by the Republicans, so they are equally accountable.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 6:37 p.m.

    Senators ought to also take a pay cut, not be exempt from belt tightening...the good folks in my voting district said we needed Sen Hatch again to save HAFB jobs... He is not saving them, stated he agrees with the cuts.

  • Mikhail ALPINE, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 6:38 p.m.

    This sequestration was done at the insistence of the White House, as a "compromise" to get debt numbers up. It is based on baseline budgeting and is calculated on cuts to growth - not current spending. The U.S. can continue to spend as much as it has in the past, but will not include $44B in growth. Those numbers are small in relation to the amount that needs to be cut. It is a political trick for politician of both parties, and at every level of government to scream that "essential" services will be cut if the budget is cut. Sen. Hatch is using the same tactics to try to "scare" us into some type of compromise that he seems to historically enjoy - rolling over for the other side of the aisle - so that they will like him. Where is the leadership in cutting spending. Sequestration is not cutting into the budget.

  • brian timothy Lehi, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 6:20 p.m.

    ALL of congress needs to be evaluated every 6 months or so - using a performance based criteria, like professional athletes. Contracts on a year to year basis - this was the do nothing Congress during the last four years - they are doing even worse now. Contracts not renewed.

  • Aggie84 Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 20, 2013 5:45 p.m.

    As a former Federal Programs Coordinator in Idaho, cut away the budget for ESL and LEP students. Billions of dollars are spent teaching english to spanish students who take that education and get jobs because they can now speak spanish/english. In a small district in Idaho, over $350,000 was spent to teach english to spanish students, many who are illegal alliens. Think of what this costs the American tax payer.

  • wYo8 Rock Springs, WY
    Feb. 20, 2013 5:21 p.m.

    It cuts the budget to 2011 levels. These cuts are no different than people trying to raise our taxes. I have had to make adjustments with my insurance going up 200 a month. Maybe they should loose their defined retirement plan just like I did a few years ago.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Feb. 20, 2013 5:21 p.m.

    You all asked for it.... bring it on.

    Lets see what Utah can negotiate back into the budget when the negotiations begin. Since Utah represents less than 1 percent of the nations population, and this will all be done via a representative vote, lets see how much of money ever makes its way back to Utah.

    In many ways it could be just fine. Trimming the budgets back, reducing the states dependence of federal dollars might be the best thing for the state. When you need new highways or improvements, let Utah vote for, and pay for it on its own. I am not sure that isn't a bad thing... it could be... who knows.

    Lets hope we get to find out.

  • Hunt Spanish Fork, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 5:08 p.m.

    @TeaPublican

    Sorry buddy, but sequestration was Obama's idea.

    Lets put this into perspective please. 85 billion is what our government currently spends in 1 week. 1 week of spending and our leaders in Washington want us to believe the world is going to end.

    Give me a break.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 5:01 p.m.

    Hatch takes down HAFB!

  • danaslc Kearns, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:46 p.m.

    I say, let it hit. When the wages are so low that no one pays taxes anymore because they are at poverty level, when jobs go to other nations instead of our children, when taxes are so high if you do pay them they leave you at poverty level and when your leaders worry more about what goes into their pockets than into the state and entitlements are out of control then I say let it happen. Maybe a lesson will be learned. We live in Republican Obamaland and we all know it. Entitlements for other nations people to come in here and work, taking jobs from us and lowering the wages and sheeple standing by watching all this happen because they are lethargic and it takes to much energy to pay attention to what is happening, I say let happen. Lessons may be learned.

  • dlw7 LOGAN, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    It would be impossible, but what the country need to do is throw out Congress, suspend the power of the president, outlaw special interest lobbies and send women who live on a tight budget month after month and let them balance the budget. Those people (and we elected them) don't have a clue about what is basic. You don't see any gold fixtures in my bathroom and I can tell you where every nickle of my money goes

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:28 p.m.

    Hatch should ask the Bulgarian government how well draconian cuts and austerity has worked out for them, oh that right he can't they where all forced to resign today.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 3:42 p.m.

    I wonder if Senator Hatch will make a deal with the realtors in the Utah Legislature to make sure if Hill AFB is liquidated, they'll be the first in line to get the prime parcels for development. That would be a way he can get on the good side of the Tea Party, the true freedom lovers.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 3:40 p.m.

    So why do we keep voting the same people in who got us into this mess? Senator Hatch, B.O., have all failed us. This could be averted with compromise but we deserve what we'll get because we support the "no compromise" way of doing politics.

  • Calbrode Vernal, Ut
    Feb. 20, 2013 3:37 p.m.

    Senator Hatch should take a pay cut as well. Washington politicians have had pay increases while many Americans have either lost their job or had a pay cut. I myself had a 18% pay cut since 2009 and no "Cost of Living" increase since then. Where is your leadership now Orrin?

  • Andy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 3:33 p.m.

    Finally, someone is talking about taking responsible steps to get federal spending under control. The people have spoken, they prefer social spending to defense spending. I'm fine with that priority as long as the feds don't increase social spending to compensate for the "savings" on defense.

    But who am I kidding, the feds spent all these savings and then some long ago.

    Thanks for the straight talk Orin.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 3:25 p.m.

    Before the Bush tax cuts we were running a surplus, ever since we have been running a deficit. What needs to be done is pretty clear to me.

  • TeaPublican Houston, TX
    Feb. 20, 2013 2:54 p.m.

    Let’s talk the truth here! We TeaPublicans know that these sequester cuts are the direct result of Republican demand in 2011 to shrink the government at any cost, under threat of a default on the nation’s debt! Yes, that’s how the sequester came about and we TeaPublicans are darn proud of how we forced all Republicans to make those demands! Now you can sugarcoat this however you want to, but the bottom line is we TeaPublicans got what we wanted in 2011….and now we ARE going to get the sequestration cuts that America needs and demands! And come the next elections Americans will say “Thank you very much”!

  • common sense in Idaho Pocatello, id
    Feb. 20, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    Will Senator Hatch's job be at risk? I thought not. Easy to talk about layoffs when you're government job is secure.