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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 20 2013 2:15 p.m. MST

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peter
Alpine, UT

What needs to happen won't happen until the voter base wakes up and dumps these glib-tongued politicians.

Darth Vader
Ogden, UT

Everyone on the government payroll, top to bottom, should tighten their belt.

Who cares who gets the credit for the sequestration. Long over due.

Now lets balance the budget and stop spending other people's money.

Just think, if we live within our means we can kick the can down the road - that being chaos or the next revolution.

WHAT NOW?
Saint George, UT

Sequestration is boehner's baby.

boehner touted the sequester to republicon house members in 2011.

boehner loved sequestration before it became politically toxic.

"...Recalling the negotiations of 2011, initially the President desired a clean increase in the debt ceiling — as preceding Presidents had recieved with little fight — and Boehner's GOP wanted cuts.

After the negotiation guaranteed $1.4 trillion of deficit reduction in exchange for a debt ceiling increase, Boehner was very pleased.

In an interview with CBS' Scott Pelley from August 2011, Boehner conveys that he was very pleased with the result of the negotiation:

Boehner: When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the White House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy...".

JWB
Kaysville, UT

The TARP or bailout monies given to the auto manufacturers, banks, wall street that went for company bonuses should be given back with interest, especially for the CEOs and Federal Reserve people that managed those types of industries. We knew the ax would fall and President's Bush and Obama along with Congressional officers should fall in line for sequestration. Those that were just elected may be exempt but those that pushed the results of sequestration until after the election should double their time off and their frequent flyer miles given to the Treasury for use to get the $85B up to par. This is only a power play and no real benefit for the citizens that abound in this country, legal and not.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Mcclark,
You cannot have a surplus when gross federal debt increases, which it did every year under clinton.

Go ahead and repeal ALL the bush tax cuts, it will raise the effective rates for low and moderate income earners more than for the top brackets

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

Another example of the D.C. two-step. Why is Hatch complaining about something that he says is needed? If it is a bad thing, then remove it. If it is a good thing, then tout it. C'mon, Hatch, do you really think the average voter is this stupid? Even Rush Limbaugh can't figure out the current line of thinking coming from the GOP in their efforts to have it both ways.

oldasdirt
Grantsville, UT

Okay let us massage these number. According to Senator Hatch those 11000 employees make a little less the 70K per year. I have lost two thirds of my income pay over the last 4 years, they will have to adjust like everyone else. Now the 11100 employees getting furlough for 71 days, that works out to 2700 missing each day, since hopefully not all 11100 will be gone at the same time. So that makes a total work force per day at 8250, Am I the only one who has worked for the feds and noticed that about 30% of the workers are not needed. Sounds like this is a good step forward.

Swiss
Price, Utah

If it going to hurt Hill that bad think what it will do to the DC area.

ParkCityAggie
Park City, Ut

"if it's what we need to get some fiscal responsibility in the federal government" Really? Fiscal responsibility is our goal? I suppose we consider giving unnecessary subsidies and tax breaks to large oil companies who reap huge profits to be "fiscally responsible"? How about ending corporate welfare? Wouldn't THAT be fiscally responsible? Can't pick on the "job creators" (LOL) indeed. I suppose that cutting thousands of jobs when the economy and economic recovery is still fragile is also fiscally responsible right?

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

The election is over. Senator Hatch is a rino again.

Swiss
Price, Utah

All wage earners took a 2% pay cut to cover FICA Medicare. Now a 2.3% reduction in the growth of Federal spending will cause the end of US.
We are taxed enough already so how else are we to keep government spending growing to devour the entire gdp. Maybe a start would be to take the guaranteed pensions away from Obama and the Congress. Let them retire on social security and FERS. Then maybe they won't be so interested in spending all the taxes entrusted to their tender loving care or maybe theyll just resign q

Heidi T.
Farmington, Utah

Why, why, why did we vote Hatch in. Maybe we should sequester the payback revenues he receives from pharmaceuticals. Just take our money and let us defend ourselves and add to the jobless numbers. Clean up after Obama and Hatch agrees. What a Dufus.

OCoug
Ogden, UT

I thought the protection of Utah and Utahn's interests was one of the major reasons we needed Hatch back in Congress. We heard how his experience would make a big difference. Now that the votes are in, his (Hatch's) loyalties have shifted again. What do we expect from someone who has been a politician longer than I have been alive.

The problem lies with the people, because we allow men/women to be elected and re-elected who are first and only concerned about themselves. In the last two elections (maybe more) the vote difference between the winner and loser of the Presidential Election was less than the number of eligible voters who chose to stay home on election day. People choose not to vote and that's a problem.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

I've been told by conservatives that government doesn't create jobs and that the deficit is the number one problem so this should be perfectly fine to let go through right?

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Ryan took credit for the sequester in August 2011, bragging to Fox News that it guaranteed the massive budget cuts Republicans were seeking. “We got that in law,” he boasted. On the House floor, he said the Budget Control Act’s spending cuts were “a victory for those committed to controlling government spending.”

These automatic spending cuts came into place because it gave our congress a way to "kick the can down the road" rather than doing their job.

They were like little children. They basically devised a plan that was so distasteful to both parties that it would force them to work together. Big surprise that it didn't work.

You folks can blame the Republicans. You can blame the Democrats. You can blame Obama.

WHO CARES.

We have a dysfunctional government across the board. Quit pointing fingers to satisfy your partisanship.

This is pathetic. And YOUR congressmen are to blame. And Washington is more about deflecting blame than fixing the problem.

raybies
Layton, UT

Fwiw, Sequestration is a pay cut to all federal employees that are deemed nonessential.

I understand the need to trim spending levels. I can even support tax increases if we weren't going to just turn around and spend it before we even have the tax revenues. But sequestration is a poor solution to forcing spending cuts. Essentially it punishes many who aren't making that much, but perform essential jobs in keeping our country safe and functioning.

We need responsible controlled spending. This is like hammering a nail in a fine piece of furniture by attempting to back a steamroller over the top of it.

It's irresponsible government, and I believe both parties are to blame. The democrats have to give on their spending levels, the republicans need so let the wealthier pay the same percentages of taxes that the middle class pays.

Mugabe
ACWORTH, GA

Danaslc: We don't live in a republic period. Here is some facts that we should all be aware of"

James Traficant's U.S. Bankruptcy Speech
The Bankruptcy of The United States
United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303
Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees
presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

Don't tell us how bad it "could be". Tell us exactly what the effect will be. Just another politician giving vague ideas to scare us into borrowing money that we can't afford, to impress countries we don't like, to buy things that we don't need.

What should have happened was and is to do a sequester on social programs. Then you would be amazed at how fast demos will get off of their hands to protect their ever needy base.

Itsjstmeagain
Merritt Island, Fl

Stop bashing and using dedicated civil servants to sacrifice. Start canceling worthless and cost overrun programs that will save billions in life cycle costs. The Air Force just canceled a $1 billion parts traching program that resulted in nothing. They canceled another $2 Billion in failed programs. Gg

Someone Pinch Me
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

This rather brilliantly cuts thru all the political doublespeak we get. It puts it into a much better perspective.

Lesson # 1:

* U.S. Tax revenue: $2,170,000,000,000
* Fed budget: $3,820,000,000,000
* New debt: $ 1,650,000,000,000
* National debt: $16,271,000,000,000
* Proposed budget cuts: $ 85,500,000,000

Let's now remove 8 zeros and pretend it's your household budget:

* Annual family income: $21,700
* Money the family spent: $38,200
* New debt on the credit card: $16,500
* Outstanding balance on the credit card: $162,710
* Proposed budget cuts so far: $8.55

Got It ?????

If not now, when do we start making cuts?

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