@univutesYou need to go back and study your history. Also utah has
already been "down for long", better part of a deade actually. A far
longer run of futility than BYU has ever endured and guess what? That futility
is still going on with no real end in sight.LOL!
@Chris BDid you know that there's no such thing as a BCS
basketball conference? That whole prestigious BCS only applies to football, good
attempt though.I'm excited for BYU's future!!
They still cannot stop the good teams from scoring. Defense is a foreign
concept to the cougars. Coach should pattern the program after Gonzaga and
Indiana. Great big men who can defend and bang inside. This team is made up to
score from the perimeter but they are terrible from the 3 line, and Brandon is
all alone trying to score and defend from the inside. He has been in foul
troublae all year because he is alone on that island. Just watch how
Gonzaga's bigs are going to dominate again, and their guards will out pass
and out defend at the 3 line. Ditto, the Gaels. It will not be pretty.
How quickly people forget. BYU was the laughingstock of college basketball for
quite a few years...and it wasn't that long ago...Everything in college
sports is cyclical and Utah will not stay down for long. I would let the last
few years sink in and enjoy them as much as you can, because the future will not
resemble the past in any way shape or form...Also, to take some of
your logic, I think it would out of place for anyone from happy valley to
criticize Utah's football next year, being that we have beaten the pussy
cats three years in a row and 8 of 11...Just sayin!
Mika is 6'10, Dastrup and Nixon Might be 6'10 by the time they stop
Mika is 6'10, and Datrup and Nixon Might be 6"10 by the time they stop
Utah recruiters: "Don't you want to come and run around for four years
in this inversion, breathing in icy-cold, polluted air from all across the
valley?" Prospective Player: "Mmmm...what was the number for the
coach at USC again?" Luckily BYU gets away with it because we
get the majority of top LDS recruits. Plus we get guys like Carlino, Winder,
Loyd Jr., etc. who realize that Dave Rose is the man and it would be foolish not
to play for him.
CougFaninTexas, you make an excellent point. Why would a Cougar team playing
with the offensive philosophy that Dave Rose prefers want a lumbering, slow,
7'2" giant in the middle? How would such a player be able to keep up
with the transition offense that BYU prefers? And if the offense aggressive
enough that neutralizes the impact of a slow giant on the other team, who would
likewise struggle to keep up. The nice thing about Davies is that he is so
mobile. So is Mika. I'm sure that the younger Hartsock will play much like
his older brother, who seemed to do very well in this system. If BYU
ever becomes a half-court, grind-it-out team, they will need to pursue the Shaqs
of the world. But bigs that can run the floor are a rare commodity. People who
are bummed because we don't have multiples remind me of those who
can't believe Holmoe hasn't called Ty Detmer and Andy Reid to their
callings. These things are a two-way street. The recruit has to want to come
Awesome, Jake! Here is one loyal Ute who will be cheering you loud & proud!
ETB - I know you think your sarcasm is funny, but the only thing you missed is
the year. Most of these kids are going on missions, but the Cougs are putting
together a team that has a legit shot at Final Four in 2017 or 2018, not
2014.Sigmund - Looking for a big man, you're going to like
Isaac Nielson in 2014. He's 6'10". The problem with a lot of 7
footers is they cannont run the floor and if they can't keep up, it slows
Rose's entire offense down. Mika, Hartsock, Worthington and Shaw
aren't too shabby either, but they are all about 6'8" or
6'9".Toolson is a another great pick-up. If the Cougs can
also pick-up Brekkott Chapman and Payton Dastrup, I will be dreaming about NC.
Toolson's commitment increases the probability that Dastrup will commit.
The two are good friends and have talked about playing together in college.
@ bballjunkie- Yeah. Wish there were other options to get caught up on my Cougs
from afar. But, I am limited to DN (which I started reading when the kids hit
Provo) and the Trib. Don't get me started on the Herald. Aren't they
an off-shoot of the Daily Universe? I like my Cougs, but for a paper with great
tradition and longevity, I'm just suprised at how limited the sports dept
is. They're pretty easy pickens. But, that's how deranged I am.
I'll continue to read ... and question.
@Bluto,I would argue the BCS is alive and kicking in both football
and basketball, and will continue to be.Utah, in yes another down
year, has FOUR better wins than your best win all season. Why do we have
FOUR?Our prestigious Pac 12 membership. Why don't you have
FOUR better wins than we do, even though you have more wins?Your
Weak Cost Conference membership.How many schools play Division 1
basketball? Around 300.How many BCS schools are there? Around 60 I
believe.With those figures, why isn't only 1 in 5 Top 25 teams
a "BCS school"?I just counted of the 25 top 25 schools, 18
are "BCS Schools"As you can see, being a BCS school means a
great deal, in football, basketball, gymnastics, baseball, research,,,etc.You are either a BCS school or you arent.We are.You arent.
@WON84,I'm happy to oblige. He has one(out of 12) Pac 12
offers, 1 WAC offer in Utah State, and 2 WCC offers. What exactly
are you pumped about?
@strikerDon't ever find yourself using the term "BCS" when
speaking on Basketball.There are no mid-majors in basketball.Don't play into their phony caste system game.
BYU needs to recruit some quality BIGs. Taller than 6'9". Where are
these recruits? We always get beaten by teams with quality tall timber.
I'm still waiting for Chris B.'s take on this...
Anyone professing to be from Looneyville obviously could not recognize talent
even if sitting in the middle of a Gina Bachauer International Piano
Competition, let alone watching an NBA All-star game.
Coach Rose is compiling an epic group of players. Congratulations Jake, this
will be a great experience for you. We will love to watch you play. Continue
working on Dastrup; that AZ combination would dovetail nicely with the other
I have watched Jared Stutzman play (Jr. at Bonneville High School, Idaho) for
the last three years. I believe he is a better shooter than anyone on BYU
except for Haws and maybe Cusick (inspite of his dreadful game last night). But
I really doubt he is better than the guys BYU has been committing for 2014.Excited for the future!
Another awesome one. Final four by 2014.
Remeber folks, Rose is putting together another 20 win season while missing two
huge seniors, Collingsworth and Rogers. And he's playing a defensive end
at center to boot. It's all good Cougar fans and it's going to get
better, big time better. That's what recruits are seeing, that's why
they are coming, that's we should be very, very excited.
@So. Cal ReaderPretty funny how guys/gals like you want to rip on the DN.
However, can't seem to stop reading it or comenting on their articles, even
when they live in a place like CA. lol
"The future of BYU basketball is very bright."Scouts ranks
BYU #21 in the nation, the highest of the "non-BCS" teams if you will.
I think the 2014-2015 team will be extremely solid. All these new, young guys
playing now and next season will be tremendous as a mainly sophomore, junior
team. That being said, I've seen highlights of these recruits, especially
from Lone Peak, and wow can they play. If they live up to their billing, next
year will be a solid year too. BYU needs a solid center and they'd be very
good. BYU will be solid for years to come! Best team from Utah hands down, and
it's not even close.
Aunt Lucy, I am so sorry that you continue to be stuck with such a poor team...
I know that it's hard to root for the University in SLC when they are as
bad as they are... Actually, there are not many of you left up there... I say
that because the Huntsman Center always looks empty when your team plays on TV
or when highlights are shown... I need to know though, don't
you feel a little embarrassed taking verbal shots at a team that has beaten your
team 11 out of the last 12 times that they have played each other? A team that
has won better than 20 games 8 years in a row, been in the top 50 in RPI all
year long, and has a legitimate shot at making the Playoffs for the 7th
consecutive year if they can win their last three regular season games and pick
up a game or two in their Conference Tourney?
Re: rafinsure, bballjunkie & idablu: Good follow-up on doing the additional
research for the esteemed DN Sports Department to an obvious question that I had
Utah State isn't an awful team this year. RPI of 113 isn't great, but
wouldn't consider them awful. Marquee win no, but its always nice to beat
all your instate competition. The recruiting pipeline looks to be
in great shape. It'd be awesome if Dastrup joined as well.
Not Andy Toolson's son, but may be a distant relative. Rumor is he is Danny
I hope he's good because after watching BYU barely beat an awful Utah State
team, it's obvious they need some real talent.
@rafinsureHe is not Andy's son. Relative but not son. Andy son is
playing at Lone Peak right now.
With all these great recruits, we should be nationally ranked every year and
make deep runs in the NCAA tournament.Go Cougars
Awesome commit. Very excited for what is taking shape.
I can't believe the Cougars were able to snag a recruit from a mighty
Pac-12 school.Cue the comments about how he's not really that
good, that Arizona St. didn't really offer him, just showed interest, etc,
Great pickup for the Cougars. The future of BYU basketball is very bright.
Is this kid former Cougar great Andy Toolson's son? If so, he comes from a
great basketball pedigree. Also, Andy played with Marty Haws back in the late
80s. What a great coincidence if it stands true. The Haws and Toolson's
will reunite. I'm looking forward to future seasons.