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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 19 2013 7:50 p.m. MST

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Rock Of The Marne
Phoenix, AZ

Socialize the cost/risk, privatize the gain, the Utah way. Gov. Herbert seems to have made up his mind already; sad.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

I'm sure for some of the real estate developers in the legislature this will boon, as for the rest of us...

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

This is goofy on so many levels its hard to know where to begin.

Prisoners commonly must be transported to court hearings, yes, even AFTER they've been convicted. How much is it going to cost the state to drive them from, say, Delta?

They also routinely have to be taken to Umed for medical situations. Do we use one of Umeds helicopters at 25k per ride? Or have them ride in an ambulance for 2 hrs.?

How about the employees who work at the prison? Will they all be moving to Skull Valley (or Delta)in order to continue their employment?

Whenever "spare land", "developers" and "Utah legislature" is used in the same paragraph, Utah residents SHOULD be very concerned.

I wonder how the State Bar will feel about their attorneys making a 2 hr. drive to Skull Valley or Delta to confer with their clients?

Alpine, UT

Let's see who within government buys land with inside information and makes a fortune on the real estate deal.

For years the recommendation was to keep it close to population centers so families could visit inmates...without that there is little chance of rehabilitation.

Bountiful, UT

In my opinion do not move the prison and do not continue the so called tradition of Utah Government leaders indulging in their pet projects that make a few individuals alot of money but leave the taxpayers footing the bill for years to come. It's a recession out there and we don't need to spend even more money moving a prison. Expand it if you will on the current property and stop wasting taxpayer money and stop catering to special interest groups. If you want to do something, work on reducing crime and reducing ridiculously high amounts of regular violence in public schools and make the school districts less costly and the school administrators more accountable and that would reduce some of the number of felons in prison.

Salt Lake City, UT

It's obvious which way this is going - regardless of the impact to Utah taxpayers. A few developers and cities will gain substantially, while the rest of the state subsidizes that enrichment.

Layton, UT

I've always felt the prison was in a strange location.

If you want it closer to the families of the people that contribute the most folks, it should be split into West Valley Prison, and Ogden Prison. Right now it's far too close to Provo to be of any use to family members that have inmates.

That whole area of realestate is going bonkers right now. I can see why the state would want to move it to some strip of land with less upside potential.

E & EE
Ann arbor, MI

Apparently I'm the only one who thinks this is a good idea.

The fact is the prison is currently located in a prime area especially for technology companies. STEM jobs are where the future is (not manufacturing) and Utah needs to do what it can to let those kinds of jobs develop by maximizing the opportunity.

Bountiful, UT

If that land is so valuable, sell it to private industry to the highest bidder if the proceeds are high enough to pay for the prison move.

Remember UTOPIA who promised the moon but private industry was unwilling to fund it and a lot of municipalities got stuck holding the bag?

Lets be smarter this time around.

slc, ut

This is all about making a handful of the very connected very rich. Not to worry, the rest of us will foot the bill.

Kaysville, UT

The savings in operating costs are a shame. The cost to transport offenders will increase. The difficuly in finding professionals in rural areas will result in the need to contract services which may look like a cost savings but if you look at other states it becomes a bait and switch and costs increase. the problem is once you've made the switch you can not go back without it even cost more. The Leg. will pretend in the long run to listen to citizens but they will make the move regardless of any oposition. They do what is good for them and not for the State. Some one is getting thier pockets lined and it will be with 14K gold thread. St. George, Tremonton, Delta, Bluff get ready to pay more taxes for Draper City to get their way and have the prison moved.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@Fitness Freak

"I wonder how the State Bar will feel about their attorneys making a 2 hr. drive to Skull Valley or Delta to confer with their clients?"

I can answer this one. The answer is, the state bar won't care because those two hour drives are billable hours.

Kaysville, UT

The Governor wants to wait as a developer so he won't have a conflict of interest in the point of the mountain territory that crosses Salt Lake and Utah counties. Sugar House is a small area compared to the access to the I-15 corridor and visibility the prison area has with affiliated government facilities and property in the area that would probably be relocated also due to the prison requirements changing with other agencies.

Other counties have taken advantage of the lack of facilities for prisoners and built their jails to house offenders of the law and gain rental property and tax advantages with their county jail and services for related transportation, food, laundry, clinical workers, etc. that would then go to the Tooele county facility where it would most likely be located. Tooele will have chemical, nuclear and ordinary waste to store, handle and destroy over millions of years. The prison will be closer to the $100,000,000 race track for diversionary activity for people that visit the prison close to other distribution points in the area.

The old prison land will become the new setting sun vice daybreak for many senior citizens in the future.

optic yellow
Ogden, UT

Another project for the Gov's buddies to make money.

If we are going to do it... let's build it on Fremont Island in the middle of the GSL. This would provide proximity to population for visitation (family and counsel) , two hospitals in the Ogden area, and geographic security features.

heber city, UT

If they do this - mandate that any development of the property is non-polluting (electric heat, etc)

one old man
Ogden, UT

Fitness asks: "I wonder how the State Bar will feel about their attorneys making a 2 hr. drive to Skull Valley or Delta to confer with their clients?"

I have an answer for that: They will LOVE it because they will be able to charge for their time just as they usually do now.


optic yellow: Excellent suggestion. However, Antelope Island would be a better choice since there is already a connecting road access and it would be close to both Ogden and West Valley.

Riverton, Utah

How many major metropolitan areas have a state prison literally in the middle of it? It's a great idea for our community (all of the Wasatch Front) to move the prison. Let's move it to a location that is as close to the Wasatch Front as possible but not in the community.

Salt Lake City, UT

PH: Your answer: Many, many many. I know you're trying to make a point, but it backfires on you when you don't research the answer to your rhetorical question before you ask it. Look it up. There are tons of cities (much bigger than Draper) that have prisons plopped in the middle of them. Did you not read about the high rise in Chicago recently? Not been to Vegas in your lifetime? What about Baltimore? Sorry to break the news, but that argument is hosed.

South Jordan, Utah

Another fast track piece of legislation to benefit a few republican cronies. The ecnonomic projections are fairy tales. If they were correct, the private sector would be coming up with the funds. It isn't and won't. The hits just keep on coming, relocate the prison, attorney general John Swallow, nuclear power plant unable to attract private capital, pipeline to St George that can't be done without statewide taxes subsidizing the project, $13 million paid to a losing UDOT bidder, an expensive UTA system with declining ridership but with well paid executives, the hacking of medicare and ss info, because someone forgot to shut off the system; and a college drop out Governor.

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