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Published: Monday, Feb. 18 2013 8:00 p.m. MST

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Utah Dem
Ogden, UT

Just a question - is the United States really the only country in which this family can be together? Could not this family have entered legally or illegally,since laws do not seem to matter to them, into South America or Mexico? They had to go quite a distant to get to New York, why there?
I married a non-US citizen who is here legally and it costs us quite a bit of money but these folks come in illegally and then the D-News thinks they should write stories that attempt to pull at heart strings for us to support this illegal action, by signing a petition, to allow them to stay.
Sorry, no dice.

watchman
Salt Lake City, UT

It is unfortunate that our media uses these tear-jerking stories to try to establish sympathy for these folks that have broken the laws and now it seems to have caught up with them.

There are many sad stories about illegals that have come here, had children, used our system, and now must meet the obligations of being forced to return, but there are also many sad stories about American citizens whose families and lives have been negatively impacted through stolen identies and lost jobs because of the the illegal invasion. The media does not usually tell these stories.

Yes, our immigration system is broken but it is because we have been so lax in enforcing the laws for so many years, not because we need more laws.

Unreligious
Omaha, NE

Like many other immigration stories that tend to focus on individuals this one is meant to wring tears of compassion from us. Unfortunately, I find it hard to feel too sorry for somebody who had two more kids (by who?) in this country, probably getting medical care free to her (and costing the rest of us more) and who knows what other benefits - food stamps, child medical care, etc.

As a country we simply can't afford to take on the rest of the world's problems. Our parents and grandparents didn't work hard to build this country just to feed everybody else. My father and I both served in the military but I did it for my family and friends, not for somebody who illegally cuts in front of those waiting their turn.

Amnesty is a weak political method of trying to gain votes. It is unfair and stupid to admit uneducated individuals who contribute little while at the same time refusing admittance to highly educated engineers and scientists with advanced degrees.

Maybe I should just decide to ignore some of our laws and then expect amnesty for whatever offense I committed just to make my life easier.

MemoFromA Demo
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

To TMR in Los Angeles, California:

I'm interested in how empathetic you really are. Please publicly post your home address so that we can refer anyone who is having family problems to come to your home and live there, even though it could be illegally. And while they are there they will eat your food, educate themselves at your expense, and spend your money on healthcare, etc. There is no need to tell us where you hide your house key because they know how to pick your lock and break into your house. And because you're so empathetic and moral, I'm certain that you won't call the cops. But, on the other hand, maybe now that its your personal house and your personal dollars you'll be more understanding why we have laws in our house, -- the United States of America.

leroy2
SANDY, UT

Notice that Mark Alvarez did not use the term illegal in his comments. My understanding is there is no legal term of illegal immigration. I believe the term was conjured up by those who are ignorant of the law or intentionally inflammatory.
It is interesting that in today's DesNews was also an article about Kid's suspension from school because of zero tolerance. It seems that those who are hired help of the government have no problem committing stupid bad behavior in an effort to justify getting a pay check.
I put the ethics of those trying to be good way above most of government hired help. When the government hired help could be doing good most live a life of quite desperation and as a coward.
The self labeling complainers using terms like illegal immigration are doing no one any good. Those associated with the dream act can be called heroes for working to fix the broken laws.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

The idea of amnesty for illegal immigrants is a slap in the face to all of us who immigrated legally.

terra nova
Park City, UT

"The New Colossus" is a sonnet by Emma Lazarus (1849–87), written in 1883 and, in 1903, engraved on a bronze plaque and mounted inside the lower level of the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

If our emigration policies followed the sentiment of this famous poem, this woman would be allowed to stay.

Sal
Provo, UT

Since Latins voted Democrat in the last election I have lost my sympathy for them. I don't want to see America become another Socialist corrupt Mexico. I don't want to see America increase its killing of the unborn. I don't want to see my country support homosexuality.

RRB
SLC, UT

no illegal immigrant read that plaque. It pertained to legal immigrants.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

As a young boy I remember my mother working long and hard to provide for our family of 5 kids and Dad. I recall her answer to the question “What is heaven like”. Her answer was that heaven was a place where there was freedom from want.

Later with my wife through the last half century, praying to a seemingly uncaring God for help with our disintegrating family. Our family disintegrated because of the vices and economy of our commercial world. The failure of our economy came about coincidently with availability of cheap foreign labor.

It’s sort of like when you are struggling to keep your head above water, some others are trying to save themselves by pulling you under. And the people on shore are chastising you for not helping those others.

The people who will profit from the immigrants are the those Americans who are working to bring and keep the immigrants.

CUT
Salt Lake City, UT

I would like to see her stay.

RRB
SLC, UT

El Salavador has a wait of 2-3 years. She could of come here legally with a little parience.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "terra nova" if we did as you suggest, the US would be overrun with terrorists and people who do not have the US's best interest in mind. Do you really want to make the US less safe by turning it into the world's dumping ground for their unwanted?

sg
newhall, CA

Easy to resolve. Deport them all back to their country of origin.

Paloma10
Salt Lake City, UT

The problem is that she is the wrong color. This country is becoming more and more racist.
When people write of their families "legal" entry into this country, mostly because they are coming in from a European Country. What they fail and refuse to acknowledge is that people who are from here, ancestraly always traveled back and forth, before the invasion of the white man, and the fairly recent "borders". You love your rules and borders, but as a Native American, I and many others see you as the orginal illegals.

joseywales
Park City, UT

I love all of these soft hearts saying "what would you do if you needed to take care of your kids"? Well, so breaking a law is ok as long as it means you're taking care of your family? So, I need money right now too. It's my slow season and my savings are almost exhausted. So I'm going to go rob a bank. That's illegal, but some of you are saying it's ok to break laws as long as it means that I'm using the money to take care of family. I promise I won't buy trips, cars, jewelry with it. Just food, mortgage and monthly expenses. Who's in?

Here's the thing. She broke the law to get here. She knowingly put herself in a predicament that she knew someday could bite her. Too bad. I am supportive of immigration done legally. Done illegally, there should be no bending laws just because someone has a sob story.

AllBlack
San Diego, CA

@DN Subscriber 2

"there is nothing preventing them all from returning ...until she can come here LEGALLY"

current US visa application process makes it highly unlikely that she can return legally. Plus there's about a 10 year wait to find out.

"Those who choose to break our laws make bad choices and there are consequences for bad, or illegal actions"

Sure, and make the punishment fit the crime too. Let her pay the fine, and maybe forfeit any path to citizenship.

"and eventually become citizens of, the greatest nation in history"..

Is it? The US is about 7th in literacy, 27th in math, 48th in life expectancy!, 3rd in medium household income.. It does lead the world in persons incarcerated per capital and military spending. There is nothing to show that the US is the greatest nation in history....EXCEPT maybe the will of these immigrants who want to live in america, only people like this Anna and the 12 million odd illegal residents are the only evidence that america can still call itself 'great' but you and several more commentators here want to deport them all?

Just make them pay the fine and go back to work.

calu
Salt Lake City, UT

I am 50 years old, I earned a degree in Sociology from the U of U in 2010. I have yet to find a job in my field with one reason I keep running into-I don't speak Spanish. I was born in the U.S. as were my parents their parents etc. I will never understand why we continue to allow to these people who don't speak English ( and don't have to because it is up to us to learn Spanish ) to stay here and take our jobs, crowd our schools, and use up the community resources given to everybody.

joseywales
Park City, UT

Allblack- you make it sound like why would anyone from Mexico want to come here? I'm wondering that myself. If America is as bad as you say, we should have not have 12 million illegals here. I mean, anyone with a brain can see that by your standards, this is not a place to come legally, yet alone Illegally! Pay a fine and go back to work you say? Why have laws? Maybe we should do your system with all laws. Murder someone? Pay a fine (hopefully a large one) Rape or assault? pay a fine! Do away with the courts! I see a money savings program here for sure. I'm sure glad we don't have the fence built yet, we'll save money not ripping it down. Let's just put out a video on Youtube proclaiming that America is now open! No laws, no borders. Come one, come all.

BTW, her family has the right to be together with her back in her country. I wonder why they don't want to go?

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

I always find it somewhat bizarre that politicians stand around trying to figure out how to lower the unemployment rate, then, in their next breath, talk about legalizing 20-30 million new (largely unemployed)workers.

BTW - the 11million number is the number used by the amnesty advocates. The actual numbers of illegal immigrants is between 20-30 million. Its estimated that Kalifornia has between 3-4 million alone!

Gov. Herbert and the Utah legislature cackles and crows about "saving money" yet they have no problem providing free: education, WIC, food stamps, etc. to at least 100,000 people who AREN'T supposed to be here. Apparentally theft of government services is o.k. as long as unethical/illegal employers send in a campaign cash donation.

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