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Published: Monday, Feb. 18 2013 4:55 p.m. MST

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idablu
Idaho Falls, ID

That is quite an endorsement. I am more encouraged by Jason Beck's hire than by Anae's hire.

OCoug
Ogden, UT

Interesting article. Enjoyed the information about Ja. Beck having received offers to coach at other schools. It'll be great if it works out, the schedule next season is rough, I don't know how much time the offensive coaching staff will have to go through the growing pains.

Time will tell, time will tell.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I thought Max Hall had a lock on this job. Anybody know if he is still down in Provo?

CWEB
Orem, UT

I'll tell you why I am not thrilled or confident in these hires:

Bronco's had years to put together the correct staff. He had a learning curves himself. He spends much time on self-help books, yet not sure how much time learning about offenses.

We have yet to have the "right" staff apparently. Now--going back to Anae, who walked out on the program, had player/relations problems,and we are all supposed to be tippy-toes and sparkly-nose about it.

These hires are unproven. Maybe that is all BYU can get. The fiasco last year (Bronco called out by Doman on the radio) the decision to play Riley Nelson was Bronco's not Doman's. The way Doman was hung out to dry, after being set up to fail--the flailing of Dupaix and Cahoon...I have little confidence in the choices or handling now or in the future of this program under Bronco. Yes, his defense is amazing. That is not the program.

He dislikes and created an abyss with the fans. Bronco needs to repair the damage. There is much distress in Provo these days.

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

So who's responsible for the Brandon Doman and offensice assitants hirings? It appears that Bronco has gone unscathed in all of this and that BYU "fan" is back in line.

Wishful thinking. The fish "stinks from the head to the tail" as they say, yet Bronco (the head) is praised rather than challenged for his decisions. Let me know when Dick writes an article questioning Bronco and how the offense went so wrong in the first place.

Anae did a good job the first time and Bronco allowed the environment around the offensive coaches to be so bad that Anae left on his own (so we are told). If that is true, and no one who knows for sure says that it isn't, wasn't bronco the one ultimately responsible for the environment?

Typical.

Jonathan Eddy
Payson, UT

@54-10
Aren't you a team up north (tun) follower? Not much good to talk about these days eh?

Y's little brother
Sandy, UT

54-IQ

Whittingham has had 5 different Offensive Coordinators in the last 5 years.

Utah fans would do well to refrain from throwing stones at other programs until the Utes start holding Kyle's feet to the fire for his bungled offensive hirings.

worf
Mcallen, TX

@54-10--Utes can't win half their games in either football, or basketball.

Tilka
PORTLAND, OR

Translation - Doman screams at the quarterbacks when they make a mistake and doesn't have enough experience to be a solid coach.

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

It would actually be nice if John Beck came back to coach, but even being a back up in the NFL is pretty good money. I hope he finds his way onto another roster. Is John Beck looking like he will ink a deal with any team soon?

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

All I know is someone cried.

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

The hiring of a BYU player who started in just one game and never got any meaningful playing time at quarterback is highly questionable. What practical experience does he bring to your team other than holding a clipboard for the years he was at BYU? At least Doman played and had two good years at BYU.

This hiring of the "other Beck" is curious, as is the the re-hire of Anae, the OC whom BYU couldn't get rid of fast enough two years ago.

Tom in CA
Vallejo, CA

Nice perspective from John Beck.

shorts
Payson, UT

RE:Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

Max Hall has to finish his degree before he can coach at BYU. From what I see I think is is finishing his degree then he can be a GA.

BYUalum
South Jordan, UT

I hadn't kept track of Jason Beck after he left BYU. Thanks for a great article and interviewing John Beck for his insight. It sounded like Jason "held out" for BYU. That's good. We want someone who is hungry for the opportunity to be the QB coach at the Y. I also wonder what will happen to Max Hall and Brandon Domen, for that matter.

I just hope the chemistry of the Offensive coaches is united and up to the tough schedule for 2013. We won't know for sure until the Cougars hit the field in the first game.

It is so exciting to see what the men's BYU volleyball team is doing. Too bad we don't get all the games when they coincide with basketball. They are #2 in the nation right now and have knocked down some pretty incredible teams. Watch Friday and Saturday night on BYUtv.

Enough of bashing by bloggers on a BYU site. You read your articles and make comments, and let us have our opinions without the constant back and forth. It is so stale and old, and I don't care anymore!

Go Cougars!

timpClimber
Provo, UT

One of Bronco's good attributes is his ability to quickly learn from mistakes. His new coaches are all blue chippers and we will see improvement in the overall play of BYU. When the coaches learn to work together the improvement will be significant.

Stgeorgebyu
St. Georg, UT

I hope this works out. It is true Anae had trouble with players and other coaches. It is also true that the leader Bronco should bear some more responsibility for the offensive troubles, he is the one who is doing the hiring.
Now is Jason a good coach? Does playing time mean he isn't? His resume says he has potential. Playing time means nothing. Many great coaches are better teachers then they are players. As also there are many examples of great players being terrible coaches. There is a big difference between doing and knowing what to do.
That said I would have loved to have Detmer, but he is living a happy life so I say, have at it.
We have to get a better o-line and have a more stable running game along with a consistent passing game. I hope we will gain an identity with our offense. Our defense is known for stopping the run and being able to go after them when we have broken them down.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@54iq

How many offensive coordinators has utah had the last 6 years?

Let's examine the Beck hiring in comparison to the bj hiring.

Beck - graduate assistant at top 25 program, offensive assistant at top 5 program, passing game coordinator at 1-aa school, qb coach at 1aa school, offensive coordinator at D2 school. Basicly a pretty standard coaching trajectory, advances in repsonsibilities and positions over a steady period of time. Now hired as a QB coach at a perenial top 25 program, not as offensive coordinator, qb coach.

bj - immediately hired as a qb coach straight out of school, no time as a grad assistant, no time as an offensive assistant, no time as anything gaining any experience. qb's under his tutelage actually got worse. Promoted to offensive coordinator of a pac12 school despite being in diapers and being a failed qb coach. Immediately leads offense to a 109th ranking. Gets demoted after 1 season although is allowed to retain the weird title of "co".

Hmmmmm......if I was you I would maybe concern myself with the offensive, and I mean that in every sense of the word, staff at the worst program in the pac12.

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

Well said BYUAlum.

Down under
Pullman, WA

Ducky is right on target. Nuff said on the topic!!!

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