Bleed Crimson,First, lets examine your claims from a historical
perspective, courtesy of the "Utah Utes Basketball" section of
wikipedia, surely written by a Utah homer (who else would bother):"Peterson would guide Utah to 6 conference and state championships and
reached the ultimate prize in 1944, when the Utes won the national championship.
Oddly enough, Utah had turned down a bid to the NCAA Tournament because they
wanted to play in the NIT. Back then, the NIT was a far more prestigious
tournament and typically drew the big time college basketball programs. However,
after being bounced in the first round by [tournament nemesis] Kentucky, Utah
was given a second chance to play in the NCAA Tournament after an accident
injured the University of Arkansas team."So,A) The Utes
lost in the "other" tournament first (the NIT)B) The other
tournament was "far most prestigious"Bluto's
perspective is more balanced:BYU's and Utah's programs are
both storied. Both have had Hall of Fame Coaches. Both have produced
All-Americans.[Both have] had NPOY
Thanks BYU for remembering two legends of the game.
@BYU DUDE"Well at least Utah invented Cold Fusion !!!"In an article about a 1951 basketball game?Ouch below the
belt DUDE.But lets look this over. In the Scientific Method you
perform the following; Construct a Hypothesis. Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an
Experiment. Analyze Your Data and Draw a ConclusionCommunicate Your
ResultsIf your Testing fails you go back to reconstructing your
Hypothesis and Test again.What the researches thought they had in Cold
Fusion didn’t retest with other researchers. Is that a failure? I
don’t know ask Thomas Edison while inventing the light bulb.The beauty of this, is that it happened at a Research Institution.One reason the U of U was invited to join the PAC 12 was because they are a
research institution with many accomplishments.Besides stretching
the “almost equal” to claim a national title in 1951, what is it
that BYU personifies to show Nation Status in academia. And
don’t bring up Football titles, I’m talking relevant accomplishments
in life i.e. Cancer Research.
Bleed Crimson ,Well at least Utah invented Cold Fusion !!!
You poor insecure ute fans.The NIT Championship in 1951 was indeed
considered a National Championship.In 1966 when BYU won another NIT
Championhip that was not the case.Even in 1966 when Utah played in
the final 4, only 22 teams participated in the NCAA tournament at that time.In fact, Utah's 1947 NIT Championship was considered much more
pretigious than was their 1944 NCAA Championship in Baskletball.The
NCAA in 1944 and 1951, was not what it is today. That took time to develop.In 1951 only 16 teams participated in the NCAA tournament, while 12 played in
the NIT.For many years, schools played in both tournaments.Another example of Ute fans not understanding history and it's context
and feeling compelled to undermine every single BYU achievement..BYU's and Utah's programs are both storied. Both have had Hall
of Fame Coaches. Both have produced All-Americans.BYU has had 2 NPOY
while Utah has had one.BYU is a winning program today while Utah is
@ Dick Harmon"At the time, the NIT and the NCAA had almost equal
status""almost"Its not a matter of
semantics.Oswald "almost" missed JFKAmelia
Earhart "almost" made it around the world.Christopher
Columbus "almost" made it to India.Wile E. Coyote
"almost" got the Road Runner.Pres. Obama "almost"
got us out of the recession. "Almost" although ambiguous can
be miles apart..
Why doesn't it surprise me that an insecure Utah fan is posting on an
article that has absolutely nothing to do with the University of Utah? Some
things will never change . . .Kudos to BYU for retiring the jerseys
of Mel Hutchins and Roland Minson. They are a couple of decades before my time
but I used to hear about them from my father. BYU truly has a rich tradition in
basketball that dates back many decades.
Oh Dick!"At the time, the NIT and the NCAA had almost equal
status"Actually in 1951 the NCAA tournament was more prestigious
than the NIT. If you look at the two tournament brackets. You'll notice the
NCAA bracket had the premier basketball programs in their tournament. The NIT
was second rate to the NCAA!"BYU’s 1951 NIT title was the
first national championship ever for the Cougar athletic program".Actually BYU was only the 1951 NIT Champions not National Champions. Kentucky
won the National Championship that year beating Kansas State in the NCAA
National Championship Game. Let's also not forget BYU played in
the NCAA tournament that year and lost in the second round by a wide margin to
Kansas State (NCAA Runner up). After losing in the second round BYU went on to
play in the NIT against second rate teams and won it.
Accidentally hit the send button. Sorry.Obviously overdue. It is
amazing to to me that I had never heard of these guys, especially when one of
them is from my home town, and from the same high school I went to!
Obviously way overdue. It is amazing tome I hadn't heard of
Mel Hutchins sister Colleen, is Kiki Vandeweghe's Mother and she was Miss
America-1952.She died in 2010.Quite a family.And yes
indeed, BYU took way too long to honor these men.Let's hope Lavell
Edwards' statue is dedicated while he still lives.And let's also
hope that it is as awesome as the Merlin Olsen Statue in Logan.