It sounds like the attorney Generals office needs to be investigated, including
Shurtleff. Much of this happened while he was in charge.
It makes absolutely no difference to me whether Swallow is a Republican or a
Democrat.And I don't know if Swallow did anything technically
"illegal" or not.That is the problem. Whether state or
local politics, these guys can do things that we all know are WRONG. But, what
they do may not be illegal.Shouldn't we have laws that insure
that things that are clearly wrong are also illegal?How can an
elected official take large sums of money from a person or company and then cast
a vote which affects that person or company? Does that make sense to anyone?
Sounds like the fox is guarding the hen-house.
During the campaign in 2012 I visited his meet and greets. It seemed to me that
he was a slick, suave and had the stereo-typical car salesman attitude. His
endorsement by the previous Attorney General seems to have been one of the many
reasons the voters bought into his public personification. It will be
interesting to see how this situation plays out. Depending on the outcome MAYBE
Utah's voters will learn to pay more attention to their candidates than to
sound bites placed in the media.
Has AG Swallow hired a lobbyist to try and influence the Federal investigation
into the allegations against him? If not, why not. This is the advice he gave
Mr. Johnson. Thus it must be a legal, ethical, and effective way to try and
influence the justice system in one's favor.
Attorney General, Treasurer, Auditor should be appointed by the governor and
serve at the governors discretion. I am a constitutionalist. Translation.
The government should stay out of my businesss dealings no matter how
questionable or unethical. We don't need any government regulation in a
free market economy.
There is an unfortunate prevailing belief that Utah politicians and businessmen
(who are members of the prevailing religion) are distinguished by their
"values".But those "values" do not put them above
corruption, they blind their constituents and customers TO corruption that is
more nuanced and subtle.
This doesn't look good, but then again, neither did the JJ stuff, and that
all ended up to be a bunch of poor media stories, and lack of investigative
journalism. Maybe we should learn from that and just wait and see.
"and puts in focus the roll money plays in gaining access to decision
makers"should be"role"Is there an editor in the
I say again, Swallow is finished. He needs to step aside now for the good of the
state. Even if it is eventually proven that he has done nothing illegal, his
judgment will be forever in question. This is not about someone's political
career, it's about what's best for the state's taxpayers.
Neil T says: "I am a constitutionalist. Translation. I am a
constitutionalist. Translation. The government should stay out of my businesss
dealings no matter how questionable or unethical. We don't need any
government regulation in a free market economy."So is he saying,
"Translation. The government should stay out of my business dealings no
matter how questionable or unethical [I may be in my business dealings]?"If so, then he should be ashamed -- and should know that is exactly the
reason why government SHOULD be involved in his business dealings.Unfortunately, that is the kind of attitude that seems to rule in Utah (and
possible national) Republican philosophy. We need look no further than their
protection of Wall Street and crooked bankers.
John Swallow has a very long history of extremely questionable ethical and
political practices going back long before he became a candidate for the AG
office.We saw a large number of them on display during his candidacy
both in the GOP primary and the election itself.He should be placed
on some kind of administrative leave until a thorough, non partisan
investigation can be completed.
re: neilt The term constitutionalist is not a defined word in the
dictionary. It is an invented term to try and justify the right to interpet the
Constitution as one pleases to one's own desires. Self interpitation
and no oversite of ethics is what resulted in the 2008 financial crisis. In
reality, as devestating as that was, such practices as you suggest are what
results in monarchies and dictatorships. Too many "govenor" appointed
officials is not democracy, it is the path to more coruption.The world is full
of countries that have these same principles and have no freedom as a result
of. Without ethics and govermental oversight, you too neilt could be a
victim of your own policy.
I don't begrudge Swallow advising people who are in trouble. I am sure we
all would be willing to direct someone or give them advise if they needed help
or had done something wrong and needed counsel. Isn't that what
attorney's do?The thing about this case that is revealing and
disturbing to me is that money is required to get an audience with government
leaders. If the allogations that Reid's influence could be accessed for
$600,000 are true, that is deeply disturbing. Shouldn't government leaders
be there to serve an not enrich themselves?Also disturbing is
Swallow's willingness to take contributions from individual's and
businesses whose cases he would be working on as attorney general. This
represents poor judgment and I am sure that Swallow could represent just the
"tip of the iceburg" with this sort of thing in campaigns and receiving
contributions. This seems to say much about our society. It would
be wise for us to consider a return to simpler times when values and faith
really meant something to people. I believe that many and most people still
hold to faith and values. But too many are losing them.
At some point, a GOP leader will question Swallow's credibilty for office.
But until that time he'll remain. Being a one party, autocratic state with
a distaste for ethics makes it difficult to get a person of Swallow's
integrity out of office. And for those of you who stand behind his charecter I
ask with what we know as facts why should we trust this man?
This is an excellent article, really the best I have read on the subject of Mr.
Swallow and his current troubles. It doesn't ask for his resignation or
removal, but instead raises important issues with a balanced approach. Clearly
his history of office-seeking suggests that he craves public praise and believes
that elected office is the end-all in personal accomplishment, but he
doesn't seem to have fully considered how real success comes about.
I think Johnson has cleverly turned the the media's attention away from all
his misdoings and is calling "Wolf, wolf!" Our attention is taken away
from the guilty party ("Poor me" attitude of Johnson), and the media
enlarges the story to keep this in the headlines. Some then pronounce judgment
upon a good man like a jury's pronouncement of "guilty!" before
there is any court proceeding. Like the Manti Ma'o story, people tend to
feed on trivia like maggots on the dead corpse. I have met John
Swallow. In no way did he seem to come across as a "slick, suave, and
stereo-typical car salesman attitude." To the contrary, I saw him as a
sincere, honest, and good man running for public office. I think it rude to
judge one so harshly on a one chance meeting.I hope we eventually
get back to Mr. Johnson and the case at hand. He will try to anything to pass
the buck on to someone so that he doesn't have to go to trial. He has a
history of that! So obvious!Good luck, Mr. Swallow, and I hope the
truth will prevail!
@BYUalum"Good luck, Mr. Swallow, and I hope the truth will
prevail!"If the truth actually does prevail, Swallow may be
facing prison time.
It would seem to make sense to have the Governor of Utah to have a non-partisan
investigator look into this matter from an ethical as well as legal viewpoint. I
just don't understand why such an obvious step is being avoided in this
".....a guileless person prone to giving others the benefit of the doubt."John is by nature someone who trusts people,"Exactly the
WRONG person for the AG job. We need people with a healthy skepticism, not
blind-faith followers of the latest person to talk to them.
NeilT - your comment that the "government should stay out of your
business" is EXACTLY why we need governmental oversight.As of
right now, I will no longer do business with ANYONE based in Clearfield, Utah --
until I know that someone named "Neil T" is NOT associated with that
business.You, NeilT, have smeared everyone in your town.
An Orem doughnut shop? Who bought the doughnuts, were they jelly? How much cash
in the to go bag?
Twice earlier today I submitted comments defending John Swallow, (about 10:00
and 1:00) but neither was approved or denied, they just vanished into moderation
limbo.My comments refuting the liberal witch hunt against Swallow
did not support the party line.The Desert News sure seems to lean to
the liberal left more every day with their advocacy journalism. And now, with
their moderation policy for comments.Which reaffirms my faith that
John Swallow is innocent of any allegations of illegal or unethical acts.
@ one old man"We need look no further than their protection of Wall
Street and crooked bankers."You don't get it old man. It
was corrupt government that bailed out and settled with corrupt corporations.
The Constitution was circumvented, leaving the victims, homeowners and investors
with no legal recourse for restitution. It was that very government that you
seem to be enamored with that stops the wheels of justice rather than promotes
it.We don't need too much government or too little government.
We need the right amount of righteous government and the Constitution is the
very best gauge of what is the right amount. When corrupt government rules, I
suppose we all lose.
If you've ever had dealings with a government entity like the IRS or FTC
etc you know why people don't trust people that work in the government.
There's absolutely no customer service and your guilty until you can prove
yourself innocent. And the fact that they don't have to follow the same
laws as every other business is very scary and wrong! Of course if it profits
them then it doesn't matter. So many that work for our government are in it
for what they get out of it not to help the American people, and the fact that
there's so many people who want universal health care and more government
involvement amazes me. I would rather work a situation out with an insurance
company then the government and that's saying something. Bottom line we are
not better off working with any government entity and somehow these agencies
need to be cleaned up!
In the primary election, John Swallow's campaign made dark allegations
about his challenger, Sean Reyes. Reyes was stunned. He protested by filing a
defamation lawsuit. Swallow seemed amused at his challenger's
consternation. Amused and mean. A grinning John Swallow airily dismissed the
suit by saying, "desperate candidates do desperate things." Now dark allegations are raised about Swallow. And he protests...It is karma?Maybe.Karma is justice. It does not reward
or punish. It shows no favoritism because we have to earn all that we receive.
Karma doesn't predestine anyone or anything. We create our own causes, and
karma adjusts the effects with perfect balance. -MARY T. BROWNE, The Power of
Karma.At this point it appears that the most graceful thing Mr.
Swallow can do is step down so that the office of the Attorney General can get
about the business of Utah's business - as both the Deseret News and the
Herald Tribune have suggested. But he won't. Not as long as John Swallow
is more concerned about John Swallow than public service to the people who
elected him. We should have seen that coming, well before we voted.
The influence pedaling is disturbing. I don't buy the line that "he is
just a real trusting guy" and got duped by some nefarious people. He's
50 and he's the AG. He needs to have exceptional judgement, but from so
many of the questionable events that have allegedly occurred, he appears to be
highly political which seems to have affected his judgement. That is disturbing.
He has admitted that the AG office was not his final goal. He has higher
political aspirations(which will never be fulfilled now). As a new republican
delegate this year, I was introduced to both he and Sean Reyes and that was the
one race I felt most strongly about(I knew almost nothing of either of them
until the day of the convention). It was disappointing to see Mr. Swallow win.
Ironically I'm a white BYU grad as well. Though he may not be found guilty
of a crime, and may not even be guilty of some of the things he's accused
of, the multiple, calculated comments and poor decisions raise question of his
ability to make good judgements - requisite in my opinion to be AG.
Dave RL - at any rate the inmates are running the asylum.
But Mr. Eddy -- why is our government corrupt in many cases?Could it
be MONEY?Could it be wealthy and very powerful manipulators of
public trust?Could it be powerful special interests that have
purchased the services of legislators -- both state and federal?Could it be people like John Swallow?
Why is the DN so intent on persecuting John Swallow? This is at least the third
attack piecepresented by Dennis Romboy and I think they have all been very
unfair.The fact that Mark Shurtleff and Jim Matheson were also involved with
Jeremy Johnson and perhaps many other Democrat and Republican legislators begs
the question why so much scrutiny of John Swallow? It is obvious that their goal
is to force John Swallow out of office. John Swallow is an elected Attorney
General and last time I checked in the USA one is innocent until proven guilty.
Allowing a forum to bash John Swallow week in and week out does great disservice
to the people of Utah and the employees who work for the attorney general. It
appears to me that the DN has taken a sharp turn to the left.
So New To Utah, are you saying expecting honesty from government officials is a
Left Wing Thing?You got it.At least that seems to be the
case in Utah.
if there is enough evidence for criminal charges, then he needs to be charged.
But let's get the show on the road. this whole thing is gone on way too
long and regardless of how it turns out his ethics will be in question. it
will not restore nor will he ever have the confidence of the people of this
state again. He will need to resign if he has any interest other than himself.
It has nothing to do with what religion he is or what party he belongs to. We
need to get rid of people in public service that are untrustworthy. If we need
to use the letter of the law to charge him, there is no way for the spirit of
the law to remain.