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  • midvale guy MIDVALE, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 5:18 p.m.

    if there is enough evidence for criminal charges, then he needs to be charged. But let's get the show on the road. this whole thing is gone on way too long and regardless of how it turns out his ethics will be in question. it will not restore nor will he ever have the confidence of the people of this state again. He will need to resign if he has any interest other than himself. It has nothing to do with what religion he is or what party he belongs to. We need to get rid of people in public service that are untrustworthy. If we need to use the letter of the law to charge him, there is no way for the spirit of the law to remain.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 11:06 a.m.

    So New To Utah, are you saying expecting honesty from government officials is a Left Wing Thing?

    You got it.

    At least that seems to be the case in Utah.

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 9:57 a.m.

    Why is the DN so intent on persecuting John Swallow? This is at least the third attack piece
    presented by Dennis Romboy and I think they have all been very unfair.The fact that Mark Shurtleff and Jim Matheson were also involved with Jeremy Johnson and perhaps many other Democrat and Republican legislators begs the question why so much scrutiny of John Swallow? It is obvious that their goal is to force John Swallow out of office. John Swallow is an elected Attorney General and last time I checked in the USA one is innocent until proven guilty. Allowing a forum to bash John Swallow week in and week out does great disservice to the people of Utah and the employees who work for the attorney general. It appears to me that the DN has taken a sharp turn to the left.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    But Mr. Eddy -- why is our government corrupt in many cases?

    Could it be MONEY?

    Could it be wealthy and very powerful manipulators of public trust?

    Could it be powerful special interests that have purchased the services of legislators -- both state and federal?

    Could it be people like John Swallow?

  • SLC gal Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 7:35 a.m.

    Dave RL - at any rate the inmates are running the asylum.

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:41 p.m.

    The influence pedaling is disturbing. I don't buy the line that "he is just a real trusting guy" and got duped by some nefarious people. He's 50 and he's the AG. He needs to have exceptional judgement, but from so many of the questionable events that have allegedly occurred, he appears to be highly political which seems to have affected his judgement. That is disturbing. He has admitted that the AG office was not his final goal. He has higher political aspirations(which will never be fulfilled now). As a new republican delegate this year, I was introduced to both he and Sean Reyes and that was the one race I felt most strongly about(I knew almost nothing of either of them until the day of the convention). It was disappointing to see Mr. Swallow win. Ironically I'm a white BYU grad as well. Though he may not be found guilty of a crime, and may not even be guilty of some of the things he's accused of, the multiple, calculated comments and poor decisions raise question of his ability to make good judgements - requisite in my opinion to be AG.

  • terra nova Park City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 5:55 p.m.

    In the primary election, John Swallow's campaign made dark allegations about his challenger, Sean Reyes. Reyes was stunned. He protested by filing a defamation lawsuit. Swallow seemed amused at his challenger's consternation. Amused and mean. A grinning John Swallow airily dismissed the suit by saying, "desperate candidates do desperate things."

    Now dark allegations are raised about Swallow. And he protests...

    It is karma?

    Maybe.

    Karma is justice. It does not reward or punish. It shows no favoritism because we have to earn all that we receive. Karma doesn't predestine anyone or anything. We create our own causes, and karma adjusts the effects with perfect balance. -MARY T. BROWNE, The Power of Karma.

    At this point it appears that the most graceful thing Mr. Swallow can do is step down so that the office of the Attorney General can get about the business of Utah's business - as both the Deseret News and the Herald Tribune have suggested. But he won't. Not as long as John Swallow is more concerned about John Swallow than public service to the people who elected him.

    We should have seen that coming, well before we voted.

  • CTJ fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 5:37 p.m.

    If you've ever had dealings with a government entity like the IRS or FTC etc you know why people don't trust people that work in the government. There's absolutely no customer service and your guilty until you can prove yourself innocent. And the fact that they don't have to follow the same laws as every other business is very scary and wrong! Of course if it profits them then it doesn't matter. So many that work for our government are in it for what they get out of it not to help the American people, and the fact that there's so many people who want universal health care and more government involvement amazes me. I would rather work a situation out with an insurance company then the government and that's saying something. Bottom line we are not better off working with any government entity and somehow these agencies need to be cleaned up!

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 5:34 p.m.

    @ one old man
    "We need look no further than their protection of Wall Street and crooked bankers."

    You don't get it old man. It was corrupt government that bailed out and settled with corrupt corporations. The Constitution was circumvented, leaving the victims, homeowners and investors with no legal recourse for restitution. It was that very government that you seem to be enamored with that stops the wheels of justice rather than promotes it.

    We don't need too much government or too little government. We need the right amount of righteous government and the Constitution is the very best gauge of what is the right amount. When corrupt government rules, I suppose we all lose.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 5:14 p.m.

    Twice earlier today I submitted comments defending John Swallow, (about 10:00 and 1:00) but neither was approved or denied, they just vanished into moderation limbo.

    My comments refuting the liberal witch hunt against Swallow did not support the party line.

    The Desert News sure seems to lean to the liberal left more every day with their advocacy journalism. And now, with their moderation policy for comments.

    Which reaffirms my faith that John Swallow is innocent of any allegations of illegal or unethical acts.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 3:36 p.m.

    An Orem doughnut shop? Who bought the doughnuts, were they jelly? How much cash in the to go bag?

  • Reasonable Person Layton, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:49 p.m.

    NeilT - your comment that the "government should stay out of your business" is EXACTLY why we need governmental oversight.

    As of right now, I will no longer do business with ANYONE based in Clearfield, Utah -- until I know that someone named "Neil T" is NOT associated with that business.

    You, NeilT, have smeared everyone in your town.

  • Most Truthful and Patriotic Layton, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:43 p.m.

    ".....a guileless person prone to giving others the benefit of the doubt.
    "John is by nature someone who trusts people,"

    Exactly the WRONG person for the AG job. We need people with a healthy skepticism, not blind-faith followers of the latest person to talk to them.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:35 p.m.

    It would seem to make sense to have the Governor of Utah to have a non-partisan investigator look into this matter from an ethical as well as legal viewpoint. I just don't understand why such an obvious step is being avoided in this case.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 1:45 p.m.

    @BYUalum

    "Good luck, Mr. Swallow, and I hope the truth will prevail!"

    If the truth actually does prevail, Swallow may be facing prison time.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 1:11 p.m.

    I think Johnson has cleverly turned the the media's attention away from all his misdoings and is calling "Wolf, wolf!" Our attention is taken away from the guilty party ("Poor me" attitude of Johnson), and the media enlarges the story to keep this in the headlines. Some then pronounce judgment upon a good man like a jury's pronouncement of "guilty!" before there is any court proceeding. Like the Manti Ma'o story, people tend to feed on trivia like maggots on the dead corpse.

    I have met John Swallow. In no way did he seem to come across as a "slick, suave, and stereo-typical car salesman attitude." To the contrary, I saw him as a sincere, honest, and good man running for public office. I think it rude to judge one so harshly on a one chance meeting.

    I hope we eventually get back to Mr. Johnson and the case at hand. He will try to anything to pass the buck on to someone so that he doesn't have to go to trial. He has a history of that! So obvious!

    Good luck, Mr. Swallow, and I hope the truth will prevail!

  • AlanSutton Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    This is an excellent article, really the best I have read on the subject of Mr. Swallow and his current troubles. It doesn't ask for his resignation or removal, but instead raises important issues with a balanced approach. Clearly his history of office-seeking suggests that he craves public praise and believes that elected office is the end-all in personal accomplishment, but he doesn't seem to have fully considered how real success comes about.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 11:19 a.m.

    At some point, a GOP leader will question Swallow's credibilty for office. But until that time he'll remain. Being a one party, autocratic state with a distaste for ethics makes it difficult to get a person of Swallow's integrity out of office. And for those of you who stand behind his charecter I ask with what we know as facts why should we trust this man?

  • David Centerville, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:47 a.m.

    I don't begrudge Swallow advising people who are in trouble. I am sure we all would be willing to direct someone or give them advise if they needed help or had done something wrong and needed counsel. Isn't that what attorney's do?

    The thing about this case that is revealing and disturbing to me is that money is required to get an audience with government leaders. If the allogations that Reid's influence could be accessed for $600,000 are true, that is deeply disturbing. Shouldn't government leaders be there to serve an not enrich themselves?

    Also disturbing is Swallow's willingness to take contributions from individual's and businesses whose cases he would be working on as attorney general. This represents poor judgment and I am sure that Swallow could represent just the "tip of the iceburg" with this sort of thing in campaigns and receiving contributions.

    This seems to say much about our society. It would be wise for us to consider a return to simpler times when values and faith really meant something to people. I believe that many and most people still hold to faith and values. But too many are losing them.

  • michael cooper south jordan, utah
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    re: neilt
    The term constitutionalist is not a defined word in the dictionary. It is an invented term to try and justify the right to interpet the Constitution as one pleases to one's own desires.
    Self interpitation and no oversite of ethics is what resulted in the 2008 financial crisis. In reality, as devestating as that was, such practices as you suggest are what results in monarchies and dictatorships. Too many "govenor" appointed officials is not democracy, it is the path to more coruption.The world is full of countries that have these same principles and have no freedom as a result of.
    Without ethics and govermental oversight, you too neilt could be a victim of your own policy.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    John Swallow has a very long history of extremely questionable ethical and political practices going back long before he became a candidate for the AG office.

    We saw a large number of them on display during his candidacy both in the GOP primary and the election itself.

    He should be placed on some kind of administrative leave until a thorough, non partisan investigation can be completed.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:11 a.m.

    Neil T says: "I am a constitutionalist. Translation. I am a constitutionalist. Translation. The government should stay out of my businesss dealings no matter how questionable or unethical. We don't need any government regulation in a free market economy."

    So is he saying, "Translation. The government should stay out of my business dealings no matter how questionable or unethical [I may be in my business dealings]?"

    If so, then he should be ashamed -- and should know that is exactly the reason why government SHOULD be involved in his business dealings.

    Unfortunately, that is the kind of attitude that seems to rule in Utah (and possible national) Republican philosophy. We need look no further than their protection of Wall Street and crooked bankers.

  • DonO Draper, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:36 a.m.

    I say again, Swallow is finished. He needs to step aside now for the good of the state. Even if it is eventually proven that he has done nothing illegal, his judgment will be forever in question. This is not about someone's political career, it's about what's best for the state's taxpayers.

  • Dante Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    "and puts in focus the roll money plays in gaining access to decision makers"
    should be
    "role"
    Is there an editor in the house?

  • Call4Moderation Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    This doesn't look good, but then again, neither did the JJ stuff, and that all ended up to be a bunch of poor media stories, and lack of investigative journalism. Maybe we should learn from that and just wait and see.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:08 a.m.

    There is an unfortunate prevailing belief that Utah politicians and businessmen (who are members of the prevailing religion) are distinguished by their "values".

    But those "values" do not put them above corruption, they blind their constituents and customers TO corruption that is more nuanced and subtle.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 8:06 a.m.

    Attorney General, Treasurer, Auditor should be appointed by the governor and serve at the governors discretion. I am a constitutionalist. Translation. The government should stay out of my businesss dealings no matter how questionable or unethical. We don't need any government regulation in a free market economy.

  • cah orem, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 7:45 a.m.

    Has AG Swallow hired a lobbyist to try and influence the Federal investigation into the allegations against him? If not, why not. This is the advice he gave Mr. Johnson. Thus it must be a legal, ethical, and effective way to try and influence the justice system in one's favor.

  • Vaughn J Kearns, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 7:26 a.m.

    During the campaign in 2012 I visited his meet and greets. It seemed to me that he was a slick, suave and had the stereo-typical car salesman attitude. His endorsement by the previous Attorney General seems to have been one of the many reasons the voters bought into his public personification. It will be interesting to see how this situation plays out. Depending on the outcome MAYBE Utah's voters will learn to pay more attention to their candidates than to sound bites placed in the media.

  • DaveRL OGDEN, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 6:38 a.m.

    Sounds like the fox is guarding the hen-house.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 10, 2013 5:53 a.m.

    It makes absolutely no difference to me whether Swallow is a Republican or a Democrat.

    And I don't know if Swallow did anything technically "illegal" or not.

    That is the problem. Whether state or local politics, these guys can do things that we all know are WRONG. But, what they do may not be illegal.

    Shouldn't we have laws that insure that things that are clearly wrong are also illegal?

    How can an elected official take large sums of money from a person or company and then cast a vote which affects that person or company? Does that make sense to anyone?

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 4:15 a.m.

    It sounds like the attorney Generals office needs to be investigated, including Shurtleff. Much of this happened while he was in charge.