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Published: Friday, Feb. 8 2013 12:40 p.m. MST

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Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ mussingaround

According to BYU fans Utah is a bottom-dweller. Wouldn't that mean Bronco has lost to a conf. bottom dweller three years in a row?

DeepBlue
Anaheim, CA

Two For Flinching

Small sample size = larger margin for error

Like trying to grade an entire season based on one game.

Revenue share has NOTHING to do with team success and Utah fans weren't doing any of this whining about PAC/MWC recruiting advantages when they were beating their chests about being able to compete with the big boys even though Utah was in the MWC.

Now, it just sounds like a lot of excuse making.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ DeepBlue

Once again DeepBlue, I disagree. Money wins. There is a reason the BCS had extremely unequal revenue sharing. The reason BYU and Utah have been so much more competitive than Utah St. over the past 20 years is largely due to money. Schools that have more cash have better facilities, better coaches, better treatment, etc...

Utah did fairly well with recruiting while in the MWC, but the last couple years have taught us that depth is a huge issue when making the transition to a bigger league. The last few classes for the Utes have looked pretty good though, so hopefully some of those issues will start to be resolved.

LonestarRunner
Salt Lake City, UT

2fer

What it means is despite Utah winning 3 straight head-to-head games, BYU still finished with a better record and higher ranking in 2 of those 3 years. If the Utes weren't so obsessed with their big brother, they might have a better chance of actually have a good season, instead just a good game.

Depth hasn't been Utah's main problem. Having a clueless head coach who converted all of his QB recruits to other positions while leaving his QB cupboard bare, was Utah's main problem.

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"Schools that have more cash have better facilities, better coaches, better treatment, etc..."

Then the Utes are destined to be perennial PAC 10.2 bottom dwellers because the Utes will NEVER be able to match the revenue, facilities and recruits of the big boys of the PAC 10.2. Even with a full share of revenue, Utah's athletic budget pales in comparison to the upper 2/3's of the conference.

WhatsInItForMe
Orem, Utah

I keep reading that Bronco & Whit don't like each other. If that's true, nice upper-cut, Bronco (& Anae)!

JayDee
West Jordan, UT

I cannot believe that Ernest T. broke character. We all know this is his true character, but I certainly liked his other persona...so over-the-top and yet still so anti. He and Mildred make such a nice couple.

Best of luck to Coach Anae and whoever ends up on the staff with them in the next couple of weeks. Looking forward to two new hires. Spring ball in three weeks. Terrific!

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ LonestarRunner

The teams being compared here are Utah and Washington St. I have no idea why you felt it was necessary to inject BYU in there; but lets try to stay on topic.

Depth absolutely has been Utah's problem (and not just at QB). Louks was slated to take over in 2010 and 2011, but his transfer hurt, especially since Wynn couldn't stay healthy. But like I said, that problem has been addressed.

As for facilities, Utah is starting to catch up. The new softball stadium is almost complete, there is already a brand new track and field complex, and the new football and tennis facilities are almost complete. I agree that Utah probably never be able to match the revenue of USC and Oregon, but with the upgrades and increase in cash Utah will be better able to compete for recruits, which will help compete on the field. Money is very important, but it's not the only thing that determines success or failure. To use Utah St. as an example again, despite their disadvantages they have been very competitive the past couple of seasons.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Wiscougarfan:

"Better conference records? Even harder to answer since most Utah fans no longer acknowledge the MWC or WAC as actual conferences."

Uh-huh. So in other words, what you're saying is, Utah had NEVER lost to Washington St. while members of the same conference, and therefore are NOT "less than Washington State in the Pac-10 pecking order," as PP frantically and emotionally insisted. I thought not.

According to Rivals -- the ONLY recruiting site I recognize or refer to -- Utah out-recruited WSU every year since 2008.

"The fact that there is an argument as to whether Utah is better than Washington State speaks volumes as to the current state of Ute football."

Actually, it speaks volumes as to the current state of your program. The argument was initiated by Y fans; not the media. And it was a made-up frantic and emotional one, delivered solely to assuage their own anguish for falling even further behind their big brother on the Hill. The attempt to align Utah with WSU was an ugly act of desperation. Your attempt to find fault in my response was another act of desperation. What sad times these are for Y fans.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

mussing

"Bronco has NEVER lost to a conference bottom dweller..."

Finally! A frantic and emotional Y fan who ADMITS Utah is no Pac-12 conference bottom dweller.

cal cougar
camarillo, CA

I am a BYU fan and am excited about Anae.

Bronco opened up his mouth and inserted his foot on that one. It happens. I hope a behind the scene apology was forthcoming and if Kyle wants it, a public apology. Don't be surprised if this happens knowing how much we strive to put forth our best foot(and not put it in our mouth). Remember, Kyle is a BYU Alum and deserves respect. For that matter, I hope we learn to have the hospitality seen in Mississippi for all teams. That was a humbling experience. We won the game, but in my mind they won where it counted.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Okay, so I just don't see it that way. In context, he'd just been asked how big it was to have Cody and Kyle coming back. He was impressed because they had excellent options, but chose to come back to BYU. Likewise, Coach Anae had excellent options, but he chose to come back to BYU.

I think I am also right to infer that in Bronco's mind, getting Robert was every bit as huge as getting Cody and Kyle.

I think the funny thing is that the fact that it was Utah was a very insignificant part of the whole equation.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

LonestarRunner:

"If the Utes weren't so obsessed with their big brother, they might have a better chance of actually have a good season, instead just a good game."

The success your big brother on the Hill has had in beating your Indy-WACey "small ball" team has nothing to do with your presumption of a refined focus on you. It has to do with the fact that you're just an easier opponent than the majority of your Pac-12 league members. It's like your rivalry with the University of Idaho. You keep beating them every year, but not because it's the single most important game of your season. It's just because it's one of your easier opponents. And that's why Utah keeps beating little brother.

Don't forget...we're not in the same league anymore, so you're just not that important to us. If you were, we'd be playing you in 2014 and 2015 instead of Fresno St. But since you're not, and FSU gives us another inroad into the fertile recruiting hotbed that is California, you got dropped.

alternate
Salt Lake City, UT

This is really getting ugly. Let's all take a deep breath and try to be civil and pretend that our wives, mothers and grandmothers will be able to read all the nastiness that we are sending back forth while hiding behind our fake names and actually know who is writing all those hateful comments.

We are all an embarrassment to The University of Utah, Brigham Young University, several states, and the various branches of the US Military, etc.

We should all be ashamed!

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

Naval Vet

"A... Y fan who ADMITS Utah is no Pac-12 conference bottom dweller."

LOL!

Nice try, but BYU no longer shares a conference with Utah. Of course, if you're willing to admit that Utah was a conference bottom dweller in the MWC, I suppose BYU fans might be willing to admit that BYU lost to a MWC bottom dweller.

If your weak stronger opponent argument was valid, the Utes would have been ranked closer to BYU. Unfortunately for U, that was far from the case. The Utes simply aren't capable of getting up for every team like they do BYU.

"Don't forget...we're not in the same league anymore, so you're just not that important to us."

Don't kid yourself, EVERY fan, player, and coach at the U is totally obsessed with BYU. It's what U do. Finishing with a losing record at the bottom of the PAC 10.2 and not even going to a bowl is completely inconsequential to U because U managed to pull off a lucky win against BYU.

PP
Eagle Mountain, UT

-- dont forget...were not in the same league anymore, so youre just not that important to us --

Yet navy boy incessantly posts on every BYU article. Dont tell me you love me SHOW me you love me LOL.

By the way, the only emotion I was expressing is humor :)

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

Love reading the Cougar "fan" meltdown. Keep it up.

Wildly entertaining.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

Swoop:
Don't kid yourself, EVERY fan, player, and coach at the U is totally obsessed with BYU.

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So true, if this doesn't scream "obsession with BYU" I don't know what does:

Hill canceling the rivalry.

Witt rejecting BYU's HC offer.

ARod accepting BYU's coaching offer, only to reject it 24 hours later.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

RE: Naval Vet

"Uh-huh. So in other words, what you're saying is, Utah had NEVER lost to Washington St. while members of the same conference, and therefore are NOT "less than Washington State in the Pac-10 pecking order," as PP frantically and emotionally insisted. I thought not.

According to Rivals -- the ONLY recruiting site I recognize or refer to -- Utah out-recruited WSU every year since 2008."

I never did say that Utah was less than WSU, that's just your frantic and emotional response to my post. I do say that the fact that you only refer to Rivals when considering recruiting say a lot about your objectivity. I don't believe that anyone that dismisses ESPN and scout outright can be taken seriously.

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

Vegasute and pocyute,
Did either of you even watch the clip of the interview. Vegasute, I would bet that you did not based on your admitting that you don't read BYU articles but comment on them all. To say that Bronco took a shot at Utah, or is trying to make a story is a huge stretch. I think what he is saying is out of respect for Utah he feels lucky to have Anae because of the fact that Utah is a respected program, and a very good option for someone like Anae. For anyone to read more into it than that is, as Naval Vet would say, frantic and emotional.
Naval Vet, I can't believe I am in agreement with you, but it is crazy to say after 2 seasons that Utah is bottom dweller in the conference. 1 year in a bowl game and the next near .500; let's give it about 10 years before we decide where Utah will fit in the PAC12.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Wiscougarfan:

"I never did say that Utah was less than WSU, that's just your frantic and emotional response to my post."

And I never did say that you DID say that. I said that we were therefore NOT less than WSU in the Pac-10 pecking order "...as PP frantically and emotionally insisted." Go ahead and read it again. Or even read the direct quote you tried quoting me. Don't be frantic and emotional. If you want to make an argument, try a REAL one; not a strawman.

The only reason I was addressing you regarding PP's desperate jab was because you trying to defend his frantic and emotional nonsense.

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