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  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 13, 2013 12:02 a.m.

    @ derecha

    That has yet to be determined, but Utah's schedule will probably be tougher.

    Judging each schedule by where each team finished ranked (per Sagarin) this last season: Utah's avg. opponent finished ranked 53.8. BYU's opponents avg. is 66.3.

  • derecha Central, UT
    Feb. 12, 2013 1:31 p.m.

    You name me one team that has a "WAC" schedule like BYU's 2013 schedule? This next year schedule is tougher than Utah's.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 11:04 p.m.

    gored

    Beck to Harline was truly one of the all-time great finishes to a BYU-Utah football game.

    To have witnessed that play live from the 6th row of the Crimson Club and listen to the entire section go from frenzied screaming to deathly silence, except for four BYU fans standing in the middle of a sea of crimson, was a dream come true blue.

    4th and 18, Hall to George, the doink, and Doman's last-minute drive were are memorable in their own way, but nothing tops ripping the heart out of an entire stadium of crimson-clad fans the way Beck and Harline did that day.

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Meridian, ID
    Feb. 11, 2013 6:42 p.m.

    @GoRed, you forgot to add "And we stormed the field 3 times to let you know how insignificant our game with you was" or "all of this accomplishment and we still finished 5-7 and in competition for the PAC basement" or "we much prefer our new rivalry with Colorado in the annual Toilet Bowl"

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 3:19 p.m.

    @NavalVet "How many times had YOUR little brother beaten YOU? 72.7% of the time? Because that's how many times Utah sunk your hype over the past 11 seasons."

    And yet here U are, proving my point. If U are so relevant, and BYU is not, then Y are U here? Y do U use beating your 'irrelevant little brother' as your measuring stick for success?

    Your insecurity is showing Naval Vet.

    By the way, to your opinion that the 'better team' won last fall. BYU beat USU 6-3 in Provo last year and I certainly do not think that BYU was a better team than the Aggies. Just like I certainly don't think that Colorado was a better team than Utah in 2011, or that Utah was a better team than BYU last year.

    Crazy stuff happens. BYU outscored Utah's offense 21-17. The only thing Utah proved they were better at was picking up a botched snap by the Cougars and returning it for a TD (that, and rushing the field THREE times for a win over their "irrelevant little brother"...that was just hilarious!).

    But to each his own.

    Go Cougars!

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 3:16 p.m.

    @3grandslams

    In reply to my post, you wrote "Re:Go Red back this up. It's fourth and 18 and Hariline is still open."

    Uh, okay, I guess I can respond to your "Hariline" comment. Here goes:

    Kruger is still open, Burton is still unblocked, 54-10, 48-24, 3 in a row, last year's "doink" off the goal post, 56-34-4, Hall has just completed his 5th pass to a Ute defender, etc.

  • scott Alpine, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 2:56 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    Nice dodge, but your supposed "rebuttal" doesn't even address the pertinent topic:

    Utah fans beat their chests about their BCS Bowls, but don't even use the defacto final BCS poll, the Coaches Poll, when citing Utah's final rankings.

    This statement though, is classic Naval Vet obfuscation:

    "It isn't that they [the AP Poll] have no credibility. It's that they don't respect the credibility of the BCS."

    The credibility of the very poll/ranking that gave the Utes their ticket into the 2004 and 2008 BCS bowls, is questioned by the poll Utah fans always cite.

    Gotta laugh at the incongruity.

    It's even more laughable, that you're so supportive of the credibility of the AP Poll when comes to Utah's 2004 and 2008 rankings, but then question the credibility of the exact same poll when it comes to the legitimacy of BYU's 1984 National Championship and BYU's 1996 #5 final ranking.

    You're so obsessed with hating BYU and trying to minimize every BYU accomplishment, that you've become blind to your own lack of reason.

    Lifetime AP Top 25 Finishes

    BYU 17 > Utah 5

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    @ Truecoug

    It is far more important for Utah to compete in, and win, conf. games than it is to beat BYU. Utah could lose to BYU and it would still, theoretically, have a shot to play in the Rose Bowl. That makes the BYU game much less important than it traditionally has been.

    The reason Utah and BYU fans are still 'clashing' is because they are the only two relevant teams for 500 miles in any direction... The fact that the two respective fan bases are blended and live with each other in the same cities and neighborhoods means that the two teams are going to be compared. That is just the nature of college football, especially given the history between the two. And don't be naive enough to think that the comparisons only go one way. You want to see what a real 'little brother' looks like? Look no further than Logan.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 11, 2013 12:05 p.m.

    truecoug1:

    How many times had YOUR little brother beaten YOU? 72.7% of the time? Because that's how many times Utah sunk your hype over the past 11 seasons.

    When I was growing up, "big brother" dominated lil' bro.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    @TwoForFlinching

    As for your "change" comments (which were very cute), what exactly has changed?

    Since the LaVell era, the ONLY thing that has mattered to Utah fans is if they beat BYU. U could go 5-7, miss out on a bowl game, be ranked in the bottom third of your conference and if U beat BYU, none of that would matter.

    Well, guess what? The fact that there are now 150 comments on this board, half of them by whiny Utah fans, just proves that nothing's changed. U have moved on to a 'better conference', with 'better recruiting classes', but the most important thing to U?

    U have 'dominated' BYU for the past decade.

    So like I said, even though U have supposedly left a now "irrelevant" BYU behind, here U all are, stomping your feet and constantly using the Cougars as your measuring stick.

    That just has little brother written all over it.

    Go Cougars!

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 10:28 a.m.

    @TwoForFlinching "So you're trying to mock Utah for being in a better conference, bringing in a better recruiting class, AND for dominating BYU on the field for the past decade?"

    No, I was mocking the Utah 'fans' who come on to BYU boards stomping their feet and trying to get us to think that U are relevant. The mere fact that U 'fans' are constantly swarming BYU boards and use beating BYU as their only metric of success tells me all I need to know about Utah and their relevance compared to BYU.

    The only shot I took at Utah was the fact that U currently run your football facilities out of a trailer park (even U should find that hilarious).

    Moreover, Colorado is in a better conference, had a better recruiting class, and has dominated BYU...am I supposed to think they're relevant, or care about them?

    Point is, I don't care about Utah, and certainly not enough to go comment on their boards.

    BYU is, and always will be, the dominant program in the state. Using BYU as your measuring stick just proves that.

    Go Cougars!

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    It is so entertaining to read all of the hype the cougar nation tries to bring to the table about the final rankings for byu in the magical year of 1984 and again in '96.

    the thing the cougs don't realize is latest accomplishments the Utes have made, in terms of national rankings, were all completed in THIS century, while the coogs claim-to-fame happended decades ago.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 11, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    PP:

    And by the way...the Final BCS poll isn't a final poll in the same respects as the AP and Coaches. The AP and Coaches polls are designed to determine each team's position throughout the entire football season. The Final BCS poll is only designed to determine who will play in the BCS bowls. You really should do some research before assuming you could correct others.

    mussingaround:

    "If you're going correct someone, you should at least use truthful information, rather than misinformation."

    And if YOU plan on correcting someone, you should at least know who you're talking to. Typical hypocritical coug.

    "...when it comes to citing their final rankings in 2004 and 2008, they completely ignore the Coaches Poll...Gotta laugh at the inconsistency."

    And I have to laugh at YOURS. How can we completely ignore the Coaches poll, while at the same time being inconsistent. If we always ignore it, then we ARE being consistent.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 11, 2013 9:09 a.m.

    PP:

    "BYU finished 5th in the last poll of the season in 96 and after the bowl games was still 5th (you really should do some research before you go on an emotion filled tirade)."

    The reason the Y stayed at #5 back in '96 after eking past KSU in the Cotton Bowl was because, there was nowhere for them to move up. After #4 OSU (10-1) beat #2 ASU (11-0) in the Rose Bowl, and #3 Florida (11-1) beat #1 Florida St. (11-0) in the Sugar, Florida moved up to #1 and Ohio St. moved up to #2. FSU dropped to #3, and ASU to #4. All teams finished with only 1 loss, so a 1-loss WAC team wasn't going to overtake them.

    "...you finished 6th and after your big wins you were still 6th. Amazing. By the way, the AP is a very prestigious poll but has no BCS credibility."

    The AP felt the BCS poll was compromised. THAT's why they pulled out. It isn't that they have no credibility. It's that they don't respect the credibility of of the BCS.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Feb. 11, 2013 8:35 a.m.

    motorbike

    "As for the Coaches Poll being the "final BCS rankings" ... WRONG. The Coaches poll and Harris poll are simply two components of the BCS rankings. So because they don't have a final BCS poll we have no way of knowing what the final BCS rankings would be. This is exactly why experts most often refer to the AP poll when all's said and done."

    WRONG!!!

    The AFCA National Championship Trophy (Coaches' Trophy) is the trophy awarded by the American Football Coaches Association (AFCA) to the winner of college football's BCS National Championship Game.

    Without finishing #1 in the Coaches Poll, the BCS championship game winner WOULD NOT be the BCS national champion. That's why coaches are REQUIRED to vote the winner of the BCS championship game #1. The Coaches Poll IS the defacto final BCS poll, whether you want to admit it or not.

    In Utah's best season ever, the Utes finished a distant #2 AP, #4 Coaches, and #5 Sagarin.

    After all of their BCS chest-beating, it's laughable that Utah fans choose to ignore the poll that officially crowns the BCS National Champion, in favor of the poll that has nothing to do with the BCS.

  • PP Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 11:07 p.m.

    Moto - 2006 - typo - sorry - also, I was responding to more than just sailor boy but he was the one goin off on the "emotion filled rant".

    As for the final rankings - wrong!!!! The Harris and Coaches are 1/2 of the BCS so their final numbers are indeed as official as it gets. For all the arguing you do about how awesome the BCS is you are sure quick to abandon it when the AP picked you second. So good for you, you were second in the AP, the poll that does not even matter any more - unless they pick a different team for the national champion. They didn't. So you were AP-2, Coaches-6, Harris-7. All 3 polls have similar status but only 2 have any bearing on the national chanpionship that we recognise these days. It is pretty lame to pretend otherwise. Utah had a great team that year but there were not 2nd and obviously not that close to a national championship. In fact they were about as close as WSU was with Leaf. Hmmm...

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:37 p.m.

    PP & musingaround,

    You guys need to pay attention ... it was me who wrote the BCS ranking reply to PP, not Naval Vet.

    In response to your responses ... first of all PP, you wrote this: "The same kind of thing happened to BYU in 2006." Yet after I responded and clearly spoke of 2006 just as you did, you then wrote; "BYU finished 5th in the last poll of the season in 96 and after the bowl games was still 5th (you really should do some research before you go on an emotion filled tirade)."

    Perhaps you should concentrate on what you write, and work on your own reading skills before telling someone else they're on an emotion filled tirade. Apology accepted.

    As for the Coaches Poll being the "final BCS rankings" ... WRONG. The Coaches poll and Harris poll are simply two components of the BCS rankings. So because they don't have a final BCS poll we have no way of knowing what the final BCS rankings would be. This is exactly why experts most often refer to the AP poll when all's said and done.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:17 p.m.

    @ mussingaround

    I understand that. However I don't think it's fair to completely disregard the 'disadvantages' that come with joining the PAC-12; namely the increase in competition. Utah clearly was not ready, especially depth wise, to be a contender in the PAC-12.

    Personally, I'm excited to see Utah grow and 'hopefully' take advantage of this great new opportunity. The same can be said of the Cougs. BYU is off on an exciting new road as well and I think we are going to see what they are made of next season. They are going to be tested like never before.

  • PP Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 7:28 p.m.

    mussingaround - dont forget the Harris poll which is the other official BCS poll. It had Utah at 7th, but I was being nice :)

    Nevel Vet - BYU finished 5th in the last poll of the season in 96 and after the bowl games was still 5th (you really should do some research before you go on an emotion filled tirade). Thus the comparison - you finished 6th and after your big wins you were still 6th. Amazing. By the way, the AP is a very prestigious poll but has no BCS credibility. Therefore - if you are going to claim BCS supremacy (which you do all the time) you need to accept the BCS results. You cant have it both ways.

    Basically by first post stands true, Utah is less that WSU

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Feb. 10, 2013 6:19 p.m.

    2fer

    "So you're trying to mock Utah for being in a better conference, bringing in a better recruiting class, AND for dominating BYU on the field for the past decade?"

    No, we're mocking Utah for finishing with worse records and rankings, despite all of Utah's "advantages".

    Head-to-head U dominated BYU in the first decade since the 60's, but BYU still dominates U in Top 25 finishes, something fans and media at the national level actually care about.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Feb. 10, 2013 6:12 p.m.

    navel vet

    "The BCS crowns a champion but doesn't rework their rankings after the bowl games, which is why the AP poll is widely accepted as the final rankings."

    If you're going correct someone, you should at least use truthful information, rather than misinformation.

    The Coaches Poll is the OFFICIAL BCS Final Poll. It's poll that officially designates the winner of the Crystal Football National Championship Trophy.

    Of course, Utah fans don't like using that poll because the Utes only finished 5th and 4th in the Coaches Poll.

    Funny how that works.

    The Utes beat the BCS drum incessantly, yet when it comes to citing their final rankings in 2004 and 2008, they completely ignore the Coaches Poll (which is used to crown the BCS champion) in favor of the AP Poll (which is completely independent of the BCS).

    Gotta laugh at the inconsistency.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Feb. 10, 2013 5:03 p.m.

    alternate
    Salt Lake City, UT

    "This is really getting ugly. Let's all take a deep breath and try to be civil and pretend that our wives, mothers and grandmothers will be able to read all the nastiness that we are sending back forth while hiding behind our fake names and actually know who is writing all those hateful comments."

    No such luck.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Feb. 10, 2013 4:50 p.m.

    Another note about "trolling". Reading through some of the discussion posts for UofU articles I was struck by how nice it was to have a discussion devoid of trolls (nearly half of the Ute articles didn't have a single post by an anti-UofU poster). Thank you to posters who take time to think through what you're writing, and for posting intelligent posts that add to the discussion (i.e. gdog3finally, CougFaninTX, moderateinmagna, and thebigsamoan).

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Feb. 10, 2013 4:43 p.m.

    RE: Carson

    "PP: Thank you for pointing out just how much love that Ducky & Sammy have for us Utes! Although most of us were already aware of that because of their postings on every Ute article LOL."

    I had a little time this afternoon and your post helped persuade me to venture over to the UofU discussion boards. FYI, this week there were 14 articles posted in the DNews about UofU football or basketball (and that didn't involve BYU in any way). On those articles there were a total of 124 comments posted. Of those 26 (21%) came from what I consider trolls (i.e. those who post more about their rivals than they do for the team they claim to support). Of the 26 posts, 9 (35%) came from Duckhunter, the rest were mostly from monikers I didn't recognize. My conclusion... Ute fans don't have to deal with nearly as many trolls as Cougar fans do. Count yourself blessed.

  • BlueNtheFace Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Feb. 10, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    When will the Utah football program stop relying on a coaching pool that consists of the BYU influence? Is it hard for Kyle to step outside of our shadow and select from a national group of potential coaches?

    I'm going to have to conclude that he isn't respected, for some reason or other, by the rest of the coaching world. (43-0 lead and an on-side kick?)

    Go Cougars!
    Go Anae!

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    Definition of FRANTIC

    1
    a archaic : mentally deranged
    b : emotionally out of control
    2
    : marked by fast and nervous, disordered, or anxiety-driven activity
    Definition of EMOTIONAL

    1
    : of or relating to emotion
    2
    : dominated by or prone to emotion
    3
    : appealing to or arousing emotion
    4
    : markedly aroused or agitated in feeling or sensibilities

    Naval, I you are wrong. Based on the definition, you would have to see the persons physical state of being to determine whether they are "frantic and emotional". It has nothing to do with lying.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 4:27 p.m.

    @ truecoug1

    So you're trying to mock Utah for being in a better conference, bringing in a better recruiting class, AND for dominating BYU on the field for the past decade? And you don't stop there, you then go on to make fun of Utah for building what will soon be the nicest football facility in this state.

    Missing a bowl game once every nine years is not a slam. Even the greatest programs miss bowl games every once in a while. Alabama missed going to a bowl in 2002 and 2003. They seemed to recover just fine.

    Keep telling yourself that BYU will 'always' be the best team in this state.

    'By belief in absolutes you deny all movement, evolutionary or otherwise. When change occurs, your universe collapses'

    'A mature person is one who is does not think only in absolutes, who is able to be objective even when deeply stirred emotionally, who has learned that there is both good and bad in all people and all things, and who walks humbly and deals charitably'

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 10, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    PP:

    It is "frantic and emotional" if you use the word "truth" when it isn't the truth, but rather a "wish".

  • PP Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:54 p.m.

    Navy Boy - So if I use the term "The Truth" I am being frantic and emotional? LOL And by the way - it is the truth. But again I am sure your version of reality starts in 2004.

    Carson - Who are Sammy and Ducky?

    The best part about this whole thing is how worked up the U "fans" are getting about a nothing comment by Bronco. Of course Kryle tried to get Anae - he needs an OC and Anae is a good one. I really hope he gets Erickson. What a train wreck that would be.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:42 p.m.

    PP

    "But hey... you had 2 great seasons. They were both good enough to finish in 6th place (if you are going to clain BCS greatness then you have to accept BCS results). The same kind of thing happened to BYU in 2006."
    ____________

    First of all, the number 6 BCS rankings for Utah were prior to their bowl wins ... but nice attempt to spin things. The BCS crowns a champion but doesn't rework their rankings after the bowl games, which is why the AP poll is widely accepted as the final rankings. The U finished 4th in 2004-05 and 2nd in 2008-09.

    As for the last part of your comment; "the same kind of thing happened to BYU in 2006".

    So by "same thing" you're saying a final ranking of 20th in the BCS is the same thing as 6th (twice)?

    Anyway, go with your final BCS rankings if you'd like. I'll join the rest of America in recognizing that BYU finished 16th in 2006, just as Utah finished 4th and 2nd in 2004 and 2008.

    "same thing" ... wow that was desperate.

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:28 p.m.

    Naval vet,
    You have WAY too much time on your hands.
    You sure like using the words "frantic" and "emotional" but what could be more frantic and emotional then spending your time and energy obsessively commenting on articles highlighting a team you very clearly don't care for?
    Move on buddy! Supposedly the U has left BYU in the rear view. But the fans just can't leave the "TDS" alone.

    I'm excited to have Anae back. Hopefully his 2 years in Arizona will prove useful and allow him to turn around the anemic offensive production we've suffered through the past 3 years.

  • Carson Provo, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    PP sez,

    -- dont forget...were not in the same league anymore, so youre just not that important to us --

    Yet navy boy incessantly posts on every BYU article. Dont tell me you love me SHOW me you love me LOL.

    PP: Thank you for pointing out just how much love that Ducky & Sammy have for us Utes! Although most of us were already aware of that because of their postings on every Ute article LOL.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 10, 2013 2:01 p.m.

    PP:

    You didn't need to re-read your entire post to see your display of frantic emotion. I quoted it in the very post you're responding to. I led with it. You said, "the truth is" when that wasn't the "truth". It was a "wish". You wanted it to be true. You needed it to be true. It "sounded" good, and "felt good" to say. It was an "emotional" response.

    The "frantic" part stemmed from that overwhelming, foreboding trepidation upon seeing how WAC-ish and mid-majorey your latest recruiting class was.

  • PP Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    NavelVet - I had to go back and re-read my post that has you so worked up. I was specifically looking for anything emotional in it. It is a sad reality of the state of Utah football that a few well founded and unemotional comments gets you so wroked up. Let me reiterate -Utah has less respect in the PAC than WSU -Their historical success is pretty equal (of course for U fans history starts in 2002.) I am not seeing the emotion in either of those statements, but clearly the cold hard truth hit a nerve with you.

    Another truth (obvious since we are all here debating this) the U has far more in comon with WSU than they do with BYU. All those historical comparisons people keep posting are not even within shouting distance of BYUs resume. But hey... you had 2 great seasons. They were both good enough to finish in 6th place (if you are going to clain BCS greatness then you have to accept BCS results). The same kind of thing happened to BYU in 2006.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 12:29 p.m.

    Ute 'fans' are so cute. They come on to these boards, citing rankings and conference affiliation as reasons that they are more relevant than their 'irrelevant little brother down south', and yet their only metric for on-the-field success is beating that 'irrelevant brother down south'.

    It doesn't get much more little-brotherish than that (well, that, and your trailer-park football facilities).

    The fact that BYU is, and always will be, the dominant football team in the state is made all the more evident by the fact that half of the posts on BYU boards come from Utah 'fans' who are constantly stomping their feet, comparing themselves to their big brother BYU, and trying to make us feel U are now relevant since U are in the PAC 12.

    Your whining is hilarious and adorable. I know U are all in full meltdown mode since U failed to reach a bowl game for the first time in 9 years, finished last season with a losing record, and that U now have to replace 90% of your offense in John White IV and almost your entire D-line, but your 'frantic and emotional' posts are still hilarious.

    Go Cougars!

  • uteBusters Park City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 11:31 a.m.

    Navel Vet

    Utah fans arguing about whether Utah's recruiting class ranks ahead or behind a team that's only won 12 games in the last 5 years simply demonstrates how far down the pecking order the Utes really are in the PAC 12.

    Jon Wilner, PAC 12 and Bay Area Sports Columnist cites these rankings.

    Scout’s final national rankings:

    5. UCLA
    13. Washington
    17. Oregon
    18. USC
    27. Arizona
    28. Cal
    30. Arizona State
    38. Washington State
    41. Oregon State
    47. Utah
    57. Stanford
    66. Colorado

    Regardless of what hairs U split to feel good about yourselves, it's obvious that the Utes have a looooong way to go just to become competitive in the PAC 12, let alone have any chance at a division title.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    Uteology

    "So true, if this doesn't scream "obsession with BYU" I don't know what does:"

    Hill canceling the rivalry. - Hill only took a 2-year hiatus from the rivalry and Utah fans will still be spamming every BYU football article comparing Utah to BYU even during 2014 and 2015 - little brother syndrome at its most blatant

    Witt [sic] rejecting BYU's HC offer. - Whit simply chose to remain with a program that Urban had elevated to its highest point

    ARod accepting BYU's coaching offer, only to reject it 24 hours later. - ARod is a good coach that can't seem to make up his mind where he wants to be

    NONE of your examples even comes close to disproving the complete obsession with BYU of the coaches, players, and fans of the U

    Prove me wrong and cite one single BYU football article next season that has at least 10 comments from BYU fans and is devoid of comments from Utah fans - you and I both know that's NEVER going to happen. I'll give you the entire season to come up with the article.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    Wiscougarfan:

    "I do say that the fact that you only refer to Rivals when considering recruiting say a lot about your objectivity. I don't believe that anyone that dismisses ESPN and scout outright can be taken seriously."

    Rivals is the most accurate rating service. That's why I only refer to them.

    Rivals ranked Utah #42. WSU was #52.

    ESPN ranked Utah #48. WSU was #58.

    24/7sports ranked Utah #52. WSU was #56.

    Essentially, the ONLY rating service that ranked WSU ahead of the U was Scout (at #39 and $47 respectively). And YOU're calling out MY objectivity? Typical hypocritical coug.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 10, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    Wiscougarfan:

    "I never did say that Utah was less than WSU, that's just your frantic and emotional response to my post."

    And I never did say that you DID say that. I said that we were therefore NOT less than WSU in the Pac-10 pecking order "...as PP frantically and emotionally insisted." Go ahead and read it again. Or even read the direct quote you tried quoting me. Don't be frantic and emotional. If you want to make an argument, try a REAL one; not a strawman.

    The only reason I was addressing you regarding PP's desperate jab was because you trying to defend his frantic and emotional nonsense.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    Feb. 10, 2013 9:47 a.m.

    Vegasute and pocyute,
    Did either of you even watch the clip of the interview. Vegasute, I would bet that you did not based on your admitting that you don't read BYU articles but comment on them all. To say that Bronco took a shot at Utah, or is trying to make a story is a huge stretch. I think what he is saying is out of respect for Utah he feels lucky to have Anae because of the fact that Utah is a respected program, and a very good option for someone like Anae. For anyone to read more into it than that is, as Naval Vet would say, frantic and emotional.
    Naval Vet, I can't believe I am in agreement with you, but it is crazy to say after 2 seasons that Utah is bottom dweller in the conference. 1 year in a bowl game and the next near .500; let's give it about 10 years before we decide where Utah will fit in the PAC12.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Feb. 10, 2013 7:25 a.m.

    RE: Naval Vet

    "Uh-huh. So in other words, what you're saying is, Utah had NEVER lost to Washington St. while members of the same conference, and therefore are NOT "less than Washington State in the Pac-10 pecking order," as PP frantically and emotionally insisted. I thought not.

    According to Rivals -- the ONLY recruiting site I recognize or refer to -- Utah out-recruited WSU every year since 2008."

    I never did say that Utah was less than WSU, that's just your frantic and emotional response to my post. I do say that the fact that you only refer to Rivals when considering recruiting say a lot about your objectivity. I don't believe that anyone that dismisses ESPN and scout outright can be taken seriously.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 10, 2013 12:54 a.m.

    Swoop:
    Don't kid yourself, EVERY fan, player, and coach at the U is totally obsessed with BYU.

    ------------

    So true, if this doesn't scream "obsession with BYU" I don't know what does:

    Hill canceling the rivalry.

    Witt rejecting BYU's HC offer.

    ARod accepting BYU's coaching offer, only to reject it 24 hours later.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:22 p.m.

    Love reading the Cougar "fan" meltdown. Keep it up.

    Wildly entertaining.

  • PP Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:20 p.m.

    -- dont forget...were not in the same league anymore, so youre just not that important to us --

    Yet navy boy incessantly posts on every BYU article. Dont tell me you love me SHOW me you love me LOL.

    By the way, the only emotion I was expressing is humor :)

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:56 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    "A... Y fan who ADMITS Utah is no Pac-12 conference bottom dweller."

    LOL!

    Nice try, but BYU no longer shares a conference with Utah. Of course, if you're willing to admit that Utah was a conference bottom dweller in the MWC, I suppose BYU fans might be willing to admit that BYU lost to a MWC bottom dweller.

    If your weak stronger opponent argument was valid, the Utes would have been ranked closer to BYU. Unfortunately for U, that was far from the case. The Utes simply aren't capable of getting up for every team like they do BYU.

    "Don't forget...we're not in the same league anymore, so you're just not that important to us."

    Don't kid yourself, EVERY fan, player, and coach at the U is totally obsessed with BYU. It's what U do. Finishing with a losing record at the bottom of the PAC 10.2 and not even going to a bowl is completely inconsequential to U because U managed to pull off a lucky win against BYU.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:32 p.m.

    This is really getting ugly. Let's all take a deep breath and try to be civil and pretend that our wives, mothers and grandmothers will be able to read all the nastiness that we are sending back forth while hiding behind our fake names and actually know who is writing all those hateful comments.

    We are all an embarrassment to The University of Utah, Brigham Young University, several states, and the various branches of the US Military, etc.

    We should all be ashamed!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    LonestarRunner:

    "If the Utes weren't so obsessed with their big brother, they might have a better chance of actually have a good season, instead just a good game."

    The success your big brother on the Hill has had in beating your Indy-WACey "small ball" team has nothing to do with your presumption of a refined focus on you. It has to do with the fact that you're just an easier opponent than the majority of your Pac-12 league members. It's like your rivalry with the University of Idaho. You keep beating them every year, but not because it's the single most important game of your season. It's just because it's one of your easier opponents. And that's why Utah keeps beating little brother.

    Don't forget...we're not in the same league anymore, so you're just not that important to us. If you were, we'd be playing you in 2014 and 2015 instead of Fresno St. But since you're not, and FSU gives us another inroad into the fertile recruiting hotbed that is California, you got dropped.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Feb. 9, 2013 8:23 p.m.

    Okay, so I just don't see it that way. In context, he'd just been asked how big it was to have Cody and Kyle coming back. He was impressed because they had excellent options, but chose to come back to BYU. Likewise, Coach Anae had excellent options, but he chose to come back to BYU.

    I think I am also right to infer that in Bronco's mind, getting Robert was every bit as huge as getting Cody and Kyle.

    I think the funny thing is that the fact that it was Utah was a very insignificant part of the whole equation.

  • cal cougar camarillo, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 7:43 p.m.

    I am a BYU fan and am excited about Anae.

    Bronco opened up his mouth and inserted his foot on that one. It happens. I hope a behind the scene apology was forthcoming and if Kyle wants it, a public apology. Don't be surprised if this happens knowing how much we strive to put forth our best foot(and not put it in our mouth). Remember, Kyle is a BYU Alum and deserves respect. For that matter, I hope we learn to have the hospitality seen in Mississippi for all teams. That was a humbling experience. We won the game, but in my mind they won where it counted.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 9, 2013 6:53 p.m.

    mussing

    "Bronco has NEVER lost to a conference bottom dweller..."

    Finally! A frantic and emotional Y fan who ADMITS Utah is no Pac-12 conference bottom dweller.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 9, 2013 6:42 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan:

    "Better conference records? Even harder to answer since most Utah fans no longer acknowledge the MWC or WAC as actual conferences."

    Uh-huh. So in other words, what you're saying is, Utah had NEVER lost to Washington St. while members of the same conference, and therefore are NOT "less than Washington State in the Pac-10 pecking order," as PP frantically and emotionally insisted. I thought not.

    According to Rivals -- the ONLY recruiting site I recognize or refer to -- Utah out-recruited WSU every year since 2008.

    "The fact that there is an argument as to whether Utah is better than Washington State speaks volumes as to the current state of Ute football."

    Actually, it speaks volumes as to the current state of your program. The argument was initiated by Y fans; not the media. And it was a made-up frantic and emotional one, delivered solely to assuage their own anguish for falling even further behind their big brother on the Hill. The attempt to align Utah with WSU was an ugly act of desperation. Your attempt to find fault in my response was another act of desperation. What sad times these are for Y fans.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 6:16 p.m.

    @ LonestarRunner

    The teams being compared here are Utah and Washington St. I have no idea why you felt it was necessary to inject BYU in there; but lets try to stay on topic.

    Depth absolutely has been Utah's problem (and not just at QB). Louks was slated to take over in 2010 and 2011, but his transfer hurt, especially since Wynn couldn't stay healthy. But like I said, that problem has been addressed.

    As for facilities, Utah is starting to catch up. The new softball stadium is almost complete, there is already a brand new track and field complex, and the new football and tennis facilities are almost complete. I agree that Utah probably never be able to match the revenue of USC and Oregon, but with the upgrades and increase in cash Utah will be better able to compete for recruits, which will help compete on the field. Money is very important, but it's not the only thing that determines success or failure. To use Utah St. as an example again, despite their disadvantages they have been very competitive the past couple of seasons.

  • JayDee West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 6:11 p.m.

    I cannot believe that Ernest T. broke character. We all know this is his true character, but I certainly liked his other persona...so over-the-top and yet still so anti. He and Mildred make such a nice couple.

    Best of luck to Coach Anae and whoever ends up on the staff with them in the next couple of weeks. Looking forward to two new hires. Spring ball in three weeks. Terrific!

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Feb. 9, 2013 5:57 p.m.

    I keep reading that Bronco & Whit don't like each other. If that's true, nice upper-cut, Bronco (& Anae)!

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 5:57 p.m.

    2fer

    What it means is despite Utah winning 3 straight head-to-head games, BYU still finished with a better record and higher ranking in 2 of those 3 years. If the Utes weren't so obsessed with their big brother, they might have a better chance of actually have a good season, instead just a good game.

    Depth hasn't been Utah's main problem. Having a clueless head coach who converted all of his QB recruits to other positions while leaving his QB cupboard bare, was Utah's main problem.

    ----------

    "Schools that have more cash have better facilities, better coaches, better treatment, etc..."

    Then the Utes are destined to be perennial PAC 10.2 bottom dwellers because the Utes will NEVER be able to match the revenue, facilities and recruits of the big boys of the PAC 10.2. Even with a full share of revenue, Utah's athletic budget pales in comparison to the upper 2/3's of the conference.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 5:24 p.m.

    @ DeepBlue

    Once again DeepBlue, I disagree. Money wins. There is a reason the BCS had extremely unequal revenue sharing. The reason BYU and Utah have been so much more competitive than Utah St. over the past 20 years is largely due to money. Schools that have more cash have better facilities, better coaches, better treatment, etc...

    Utah did fairly well with recruiting while in the MWC, but the last couple years have taught us that depth is a huge issue when making the transition to a bigger league. The last few classes for the Utes have looked pretty good though, so hopefully some of those issues will start to be resolved.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 5:13 p.m.

    Two For Flinching

    Small sample size = larger margin for error

    Like trying to grade an entire season based on one game.

    Revenue share has NOTHING to do with team success and Utah fans weren't doing any of this whining about PAC/MWC recruiting advantages when they were beating their chests about being able to compete with the big boys even though Utah was in the MWC.

    Now, it just sounds like a lot of excuse making.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 5:11 p.m.

    @ mussingaround

    According to BYU fans Utah is a bottom-dweller. Wouldn't that mean Bronco has lost to a conf. bottom dweller three years in a row?

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 4:51 p.m.

    Uteology

    "No the interesting thing to witness is the fact that BYU can't even beat a BAD Utah team (see 2012)."

    Whit has become an expert at losing to BAD teams:

    LOST to Colorado(3-10)
    SHUT OUT by UNLV(2-10)

    Bronco has NEVER lost to a conference bottom dweller - New Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado State, UNLV and Colorado; Kyle lost to all of them, some more than once.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 4:47 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter

    I think your argument has some valid points. But if we are to compare programs over a long period of time, all-time records are the only thing we really have to compare the two programs. But like you pointed out, it is somewhat of a apples to oranges comparison due to the differences in competition.

    If we are to compare the programs since they've been in the same conference: Utah is 13-12 (7-11 conf.) with a bowl win. WSU is 7-17 (3-15 conf.) w/ no bowls appearances. Utah also holds a 2-0 record over WSU since joining the PAC. Obviously the edge still goes to Utah. I think it is also worth noting that Utah has still yet to receive a full revenue share and the majority of players on the field were recruited during Utah's time in the MWC.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 9, 2013 4:41 p.m.

    @Ducky

    Then of course there is the fact that utah is a losing program with no bowl game and well, it is an interesting thing to witness.

    LOL!

    ------------

    No the interesting thing to witness is the fact that BYU can't even beat a BAD Utah team (see 2012).

    An average Utah team blows away a top 25 BYU @LES (see 54-10).

    And great Utah team's roll BYU over to undefeated top 5 seasons (see BCS Busters I and IV).

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 4:37 p.m.

    Uteology

    "Who said he was offered an interview by Utah?"

    motorbike said so

    "The real story, whether people want to believe it or not, is this:

    Whittingham did indeed interview Anae, more than once I might add..."

    --------

    pocyUte

    "Bronco's making a poorly veiled cheap shot at Utah..."

    Bronco is simply reporting the truth; Utah fans are simply throwing a hissy fit because they're embarrassed that it's now become public knowledge that Anae wasn't interested in nursemaiding Kyle's failed experiment.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 4:16 p.m.

    @pocy

    "I know for a fact that Anae never got an offer from Whittingham, and they were talking before Christmas."

    Really? How can you "know for a fact"? The answer is you don't "know for a fact", you don't "know" at all.

    As for Bronco "can't beat them on the field", well, his record is 3-5, sounds to me like he can, and has, beaten them on the field, multiple times. before kyle had his little run bronco had a run of his own, it will switch around again.

    The thing I find the most interesting about utah "fans" is that you all seem to think that some "new order" has been established that will never again change. That utah will always beat BYU, that utah has somehow changed the way of things for ever and ever. How quickly you forget that for several decades utah couldn't beat BYU at all, ever. Even now, with utah winning most of the games there is no domination of that magnitude.

    Then of course there is the fact that utah is a losing program with no bowl game and well, it is an interesting thing to witness.

    LOL!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 4:09 p.m.

    So again, bronco is bragging about getting the guy he fired two years ago, over Utah? Two years ago Anae had to reapply for his job and didn't get it. Now he's the savior of the program? I guess bronco has to invent battles to win. Enjoy the little things coach.

    So in two years when they bring Doman back will we hear how bad Utah wanted him?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 4:06 p.m.

    @2fer

    As utah "fans" like to tell us all of the time, playing in the pac12 is not the same as playing in the wac/mwc. So by utah "fan" standards wsu's 500-526-45 record is far more impressive than utah's 628-435-31 record. They cannot even be compared can they? utah got its record playing in inferior conferences against inferior teams, whereas wsu played in the mighty pac8-10-12 to establish their record.

    As for the bowls, well once again wsu played in the mighty pac whatever and therefor it was harder to have winning records and reach bowl games wereas utah was playing the sister's of the poor to pad its schedule and reach mostly insignificant and poorly watched bowl games.

    Based on utah "fan" standards nothing utah has done can even remotely be compared to what wsu has done, utah's level of competition was just to inferior and to mid majory for the last 100 years to be favorably compared to a program as accomplished as one from the mighty pac8-10-12

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 9, 2013 3:10 p.m.

    anti BCS

    Why would Anae interview for a job he wasn't interested in?

    ----------

    Who said he was offered an interview by Utah? Unless a "strong push" means he was.

    I would argue a "strong push" is what ARod and Witt did before rejecting BYU.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Feb. 9, 2013 3:09 p.m.

    Duck and sportsfan,

    I'm sorry if my opinion doesn't match yours, I call it the way I see it. Bronco's making a poorly veiled cheap shot at Utah, He can't beat them on the field, he can't out recruit them, so he has to hang his hat on something. In this case he chose to make a bigger deal out of the effort that Utah made to contact Anae. I know for a fact that Anae never got an offer from Whittingham, and they were talking before Christmas. But Bronco has to spin something positive out of the fact that Utah and Whittingham have been beating him like circus monkies, so he creates a victory stating Utah was falling all over themselves to get Anae trying so hard at the last minute to pry him from the clutches of BYU. It's really laughable. It's right up there with his spin that its o.k. that BYU doesn't send many players to the NFL, because who would want that life anyway. It's just classic Bronco spin.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 9, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    We don't know and we'll never know what a real push is. It could have been a call from Whit to Anae to see if he was interested and ended with a quick "no thanks". Or it could have been several interviews and an offer to come on board and ended with an "I'll think about it."

    What we do know is that Utah wouldn't have much of a coaching staff if it weren't for BYU. Time to end the references to Sunday School boys. U wouldn't be much without them.

    I continue to be amazed at all the references to greatness becauss U are in the PAC12. Really do U enjoy being in the PAC12 and finishing 2nd to last in football and last in baseball, M basketball and W basketball?

    For those of U who work for a living, how many employees survive who always finish last?

    Go out and figure out how to win instead of being content because U are in the PAC12. Right now it's looking like 2004 and 2008 were an anomaly.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 2:03 p.m.

    @ Wiscougarfan

    I disagree. Washington State has not had a winning season since 2003. In that same time frame Utah has won eight of nine bowl games (two BCS) and has only endured one losing season (and in that losing season Utah still beat Wazzu 49-6)

    As for the long haul: All time Utah is 628–435–31 (.588) WSU is 500–526–45 (.488). Utah is 13-4 in bowl games (two BCS). WSU is 6-4 (1 Rose Bowl win in 1916), Utah has 24 conf. titles, WSU has 4. Utah has 8 consensus All-Americans, WSU has 5. Utah has 22 players in the NFL, and WSU has 8.

    I honstly don't see much of an argument there. But then again you could also make an argument that sun revolves around the Earth and that the world is flat but, just like arguing that WSU is better than Utah, you would be wrong.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Feb. 9, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    Uh Swoop, you do realize that BYU is 3-8-1 all time against Colorado.
    The Buffs own the Cougs.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Feb. 9, 2013 12:13 p.m.

    Truth Machine
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Unlike the Utes and their big brother infatuation with the Cougars, BYU doesn't need comparisons with Utah to validate their program.

    In a down year, BYU was still good enough to beat a Top 25 conference champion, an ACC division champion, and a conference co-champion in their bowl, good enough for Sagarin to rank the Cougars #26 in his final 2012 rankings.

    With just an average offense, for BYU, the Cougars could have finished 11-1 with a BCS bowl bid.

    __________

    Way to stretch The Truth Machine. That ACC division champion you talk about was not the real division champion, you know that. It was handed to them thanks to schools on probation. Ok then. A 7-7 Georgia Tech = 6-6 Michigan in 84'
    What is a Top 25 conference champion? There is no such thing. Yay! BYU beat San Diego St. People were more interested in the Potato Bowl and Utah St.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 9, 2013 12:12 p.m.

    Re:Go Red back this up.

    It's fourth and 18 and Hariline is still open.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 12:02 p.m.

    @ducky (A.K.A. sammy, truthmachine, swoop, etc.)

    Again, you conveniently side-step the issue: Head-to-head competition. Referring to your team's recent top 25 finish is more a reflection on their being able to feast upon the lower end of the WAC. If they had played Utah's schedule, they would have been 4-8 at best, although 3-9 would be more realistic.

    Utah owns your program. Period.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:53 a.m.

    WACpaddled

    Thinking that college sports have ever revolved around the hill.

    40+ years of WAC ineptitude.
    Seldom even on ESPN.
    Losing to Colorado on national TV. They own Utah!
    Pretending that one game makes a season.
    Pathetic record at ever being ranked.
    Thinking that playing in the couch potato bowl is an accomplishment
    Thinking that U would even be competitive in the PAC 10.2.
    Riding the coat tails of the PAC 10.2 in EVERY sport.
    Counting on beating D1-AA teams and 3-win conference bottom dwellers just to stay out of the conference basement.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:42 a.m.

    @gored

    I think Utah fans need to start by understanding that seasons are judged in their entirety, not by a single game.

    When you've mastered that very simple concept that is accepted universally by every fan not living under the crimson bubble on the hill, then we can discuss reasonably which program is better.

    Here's a clue:

    National Championships and Top 25 Rankings are based on what each team accomplished for the entire season.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    gored

    "As far as Anae is concerned, he's average at best."

    So what you're really saying is that Brian Johnson is such a horribly pathetic OC, that Whittingham would be desperately trying to hire an "average at best" OC to replace BJ?

    "Mind-boggling"?

    What's really funny is the hysterical reaction from Utah fans. Bronco didn't make a big deal out of Anae being pursued by Utah. In fact, he barely mentioned it in the context of Bronco being pleased that Anae decided to return to BYU even though another school also wanted him.

    Unlike the Utes and their big brother infatuation with the Cougars, BYU doesn't need comparisons with Utah to validate their program.

    In a down year, BYU was still good enough to beat a Top 25 conference champion, an ACC division champion, and a conference co-champion in their bowl, good enough for Sagarin to rank the Cougars #26 in his final 2012 rankings.

    With just an average offense, for BYU, the Cougars could have finished 11-1 with a BCS bowl bid.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:30 a.m.

    Whoa Nellie
    American Fork, UT
    "I love being a real program, in a real conference, with real national title aspirations" Oh, man that is funny. Really brought a smile to my face. Especially the national title aspirations. This, my friends, is the definition of false hope.

    ______________

    No. False hope is:

    Thinking that college sports revolves around Provo.
    40+ years of WAC legacy without an official conference invite.
    Lame ESPN ratings.
    Losing to San Jose St. on national TV. They own BYU!
    Losing to Utah again.
    Pathetic record against ranked teams the past several years.
    Thinking that your recent bowl performance would attract viewers. When in fact Utah State got a higher rating!
    Thinking you would dominate the WCC, making fun of teams playing in small gyms.
    Riding the coat tails of Notre Dame in football.
    Counting on Idaho, and New Mexico St to fill out your ever changing, schools backing out of, football schedules.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    byu "fans":

    I think you need to have the rules of talking smack explained to you. It starts by your team needing to win on the football field, something you haven't done in 3 years. In fact, at last count, the Utes had won 3 in a row, 4 out of the last 5, 8 out of the last 11, and overall 56-34-4. I know of no other fan base who dishes out so freely against their rivals with nothing to back it up.

    Whatever.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:48 a.m.

    RE: Naval Vet

    Continued...When was the last time WSU out-recruited the U? This year according to scout (WSU #37/Utah #53)

    When was the last time WSU won a BCS bowl?" They haven’t, but they’ve been twice just like the Utes.

    So, there are your answers. I definitely give Utah the edge in recent production and WSU the edge over the long haul. Why does any of this matter? Because if trolls want to bash they should get their facts right. The fact that there is an argument as to whether Utah is better than Washington State speaks volumes as to the current state of Ute football.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:48 a.m.

    sports nonauthority

    I find it even more curious that the only real validation byu fans feel these days is measured in how they feel they stack up against Utah. They know that since they can no longer compete on the football field and in recruiting, that they have to have have some sort of “victory”, however contrived it might be, in order to feel that they are as good as the Utes.

    As far as Anae is concerned, he's average at best. He was run out of town two years ago, and now with Arizona going in a different direction, he needs a job. The fact that Bronco had to make such a big deal about him having interest shown to him by Utah, is mind-boggling. There are coaches and players who byu loses out to Utah all the time, but the leadership at Utah doesn't make a big deal out of it. The only ones who are trying to make a big deal out of this are Bronco and his “fans”.

    P.S. sammy's reference to "naval lint"? Really? When I post something like that, it's not allowed by the D News editors.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    RE: Naval Vet

    "What a frantic and emotional thing to say. When was the last time the Utes lost WSU? When was the last time WSU finished higher in the polls, or with a better conference record than the U? When was the last time WSU out-recruited the U? When was the last time WSU won a BCS bowl?"

    What a frantic and emotional response to a reasonable post. To answer your questions...

    When was the last time the Utes lost to WSU? I believe it was three games ago, the 1992 Copper Bowl. However, the Utes have won the only two meetings in the last decade or so, by a blowout last year and in overtime the year before.

    When was the last time WSU finished higher in the polls? This one is more difficult to answer since neither team makes it into the polls very often. Utah finished the 2009 season ranked #18, you have to go back to 2003 for WSU last ranking (#9).

    Better conference records? Even harder to answer since most Utah fans no longer acknowledge the MWC or WAC as actual conferences.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    @pocy

    "classless"? Get serious. Bronco mentioned it in that he was happy to get Anae back depsite another school heavily pursuing him. I understand the utah "fan" betterness but it was hardly "classless" to say, other schools, specifically utah, tried to get him and he chose to come here. Good grief you guys are sensitive.

  • coachmc OREM, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    The best OC available that is ex/byu would be Jeff Grimes for the UTES. Was at (Colorado PAC 12 experience and Auburn sec and national champions) I'm ok with BJ but Grimes would be awesome!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:26 a.m.

    pocyUte

    It goes to show how hyper-sensitive Utah fans have become that they can't even handle any coach or player ever spurning their precious little program on the hill.

    Bronco was commenting on a coach that Bronco had just hired. Why shouldn't he mention that Anae was also pursued by the Utes?

    The Cougar faithful didn't run Anae out of town. He left on his own terms and returned in like manner.

    It's laughable that the program that supposedly left BYU in the dust three years ago is still so totally obsessed with EVERYTHING that happens at BYU.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    It goes to show that Bronco can't leave Utah alone. Why does he even mention it his interview, or use very subjective terms? It's a classless move by Bronco. Did Kyle comment when Bronco let his staff reapply for their positions, or when the cougar faithful ran Anae out of town? No, because he isn't obsessed with BYU, like Bronco appears to be with Utah.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:06 a.m.

    My Perspective

    "I find it interesting that the media seems to know everyone Whittingham has interviewed even to the point of finding obscure hints in local papers in the Mid-West but knew nothing of him speaking with Anae."

    I find it interesting that Utah fans are in such denial than they're unwilling to accept the fact that Bronco reported and Anae confirmed that the Utes made a strong push to get Coach Anae.

    What further "proof" do we need from the "media" to substantiate the story.

    Just because Kyle was too embarrassed to report that he'd been spurned by Anae doesn't mean it didn't happen. I'm pretty sure the media hasn't wire-tapped Kyle's phone, so there's no way the media could possibly know how many phone calls Kyle made to Anae to try to convince him to interview for whatever position Kyle had in mind for Robert.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:01 a.m.

    The real question is if Bronco is so please with getting Anae before Utah did, why did he make RA apply for his job two years ago only to give it to a kid with no experience?
    Is he going to be begging Doman to come back in a few years?

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    The real story, whether people want to believe it or not, is this:

    Whittingham did indeed interview Anae, more than once I might add. When it came right down to it there was basically a job offer of sorts on the table for him if he wanted it. However, Anae came back with his desire to have 100% control over the offense and the offensive staff.

    Read between the lines on that and you'll see that there was at least one person Whittingham did not want to let go and therefore would not give Anae that power. BYU caved to the 100% control request and the rest is history.

    Take from that what you will, but that comes straight from the family tree.

    So is Bronco correct? Absolutely. Is it apples to apples as to what Anae accepted vs what he turned down? Absolutely not. None of us know what Anae would have done had the offers been identical in responsibilities and salary.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 8:48 a.m.

    Perhaps the "quote of the year"

    From Vegas Ute:

    "panamadesnews - you are right, I do not read (nor do I want to) byU articles."

    I guess technically he is right because he is one of those who constantly misspells "BYU", perhaps intentionally.

    So yes, he is right of course. He does not read an any "byU" articles, but I suspect he spends plenty of time reading "BYU" articles.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    Very concerned about the "secret" info that Chris B is passing on.

    "Just like Taysom Hill is secretly regretting leaving prestigious pac 12 program to be a mediocre WAC team, Anae will soon regret not staying at Arizona or coming to Utah as again he loses to Pac 12 teams and leads a mediocre WAC offense."

    What WAC team he is talking about? Is Tayson leaving BYU? How does he know that Taysom is regretting anything? What WAC school is Coach Anae going to?

    Is Chris onto something here. Where is he getting all this insider information. I didn't even think there was going to be a WAC football conference next year!

    Wow! This could be big news being broken on the DNews comment board. Or it could be delusional dreaming? Stay tuned!

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 9, 2013 7:34 a.m.

    U-fans...you realize you won your bowl game this year, went 5-7, didn't play in the post season and you are estactic and pounding our chest. Your denial and need to rip on the Y is classic depression or insecurity. Neither are very good at all.

  • N.C.Y. Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 9, 2013 7:29 a.m.

    re:max Seriously what do you mean? Or more important how in the world do you get there?

    But by all means please keep posting, lots of people read these comments and are able to get a better picture about the two fan bases. And frankly, the red and white checkerd shirt, suspender wearing fan base isn't too attractive.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 9, 2013 7:06 a.m.

    Erickson was definitely interviewed for his offense. Surprised no announcement has been made. I'm betting Utah trying to get Anae was known by the media and when U didn't get him, instead of running news stories how he was a hot commodity, they chose to run stories how weird it was that he was coming back to BYU. Just floating a conspiracy theory that's been substantiated again and again.

    What do we know now...Utah has no faith in Johnson. With no immediate fix, next fall is already sinking. It is not a good offseason for Utah.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 7:05 a.m.

    naval lint

    At the end of the season when Utah "fans" sit on the couch all emotional and frantic about being home for the holidays is when we really know that Utah's recruiting has failed once again against the likes of Oregon, USC, Stanford, and others in their glorious conference.

    But we know that Utah "fans" rationalize their program's success by only one game a year these days and everything else doesn't matter. How pitifully pathetic and miserable is that. 6 losses 3 wins, and your boasting about Ute recruiting. Welcome to your new normal. I absolutely enjoy the irony and hypocrisy of it all.

    Nothing inept about recruiting here in Cougarland as proven by continuing end of season success better than the local commuter school who went 0-1 against the WAC.

    Deep down we know this continuing "implausible" chain of events torments you and it is so 'deliciously' entertaining.

    BYU snags Anae and the kids on the hill are here commenting about it and the best you can do is talk recruiting smack.

    Let the blubbering continue. LOL

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 5:08 a.m.

    The posts on this thread are a fun read. I find it interesting that the media seems to know everyone Whittingham has interviewed even to the point of finding obscure hints in local papers in the Mid-West but knew nothing of him speaking with Anae. That story comes from Mendenhall himself and it's the first time we hear of it.

    Mendenahall has a history of this conduct. For example, Mendenhall told Jay Drew two years ago that he had a "very real" opportunity to coach someplace else. Then there's the stories Mendenhall brought back from the coaches conference. Coaches from all over the country told Mendenhall how great his team was in 2011 especially having recovered from the blow out in his own house by Utah (2011). Coaches all over the country tune into ESPN to watch BYU. In other words...Mendenhall makes claims that no one can (or will) verify and then lets the Utah County / BYU rumor mill give his stories a life of their own. There is nothing new here.

  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    Feb. 9, 2013 2:15 a.m.

    @goatutes

    >We already saw that he couldn't make it as an OC in the PAC 12.

    You're right. Arizona only put up 480 yards and 34 points on Utah this past season. An OC that can't get his offense to be more productive against a team as bad as Utah certainly has no place in the Pac-12.

    Anyway, see you on October 19th. The weather will be nice in the Old Pueblo, and I'll be eating a couple of Sonoran hotdogs and drinking guava juice while I watch the Wildcats eliminate Utah from bowl eligibility. Again. (Although, there IS that Weber State game that Utah might be able to squeak a win out of, so we might have to wait until the USC game a week later for the elimination.)
    At least you've got your rivalry game on November 30th to finish the season. Best of luck!

  • Just Smiling BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 1:47 a.m.

    Wow byu fans... still finding hapiness in PAC-12 wins over Utah when you can't do it yourself. Classless to compare a teams win-loss record when they have a much harder schedule and keep ignoring the actual head to head game results. Wins over Idaho, Weber State, Hawaii, NewMexico State and Washington State (30-7- oh ya ...the U beat them 49-6)qualifying for a bowl game seems to be your proudest moment. Wait to see how well you do with a semi-challeging schedule next year (still rated a little less than a PAC-12 schedule)and beat Utah and then you can say you have a better team. Compare apples to apples

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 1:34 a.m.

    Uteology

    Why would Anae interview for a job he wasn't interested in?

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 1:28 a.m.

    navel vet

    The truth is the Utes are decades away from matching what Washington State has already accomplished.

    The Utes can only dream of playing in a Rose Bowl. The Cougars have already played in FOUR, including two in the last 15 years (1998 and 2003).

    The Utes have only cracked the AP Top 25 FIVE times in their entire history. The Cougars have ELEVEN AP Top 25 finishes, including FOUR Top 10 finishes.

    Utah is 0-1 in bowl games versus the Cougars.

    The only ones with tears being brought to their eyes about recruiting are the Utes, who are finally starting to realize how hopelessly they're out matched in their new conference.

    Next time, try doing a little research before spouting off.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 1:13 a.m.

    ute4ever

    "Bronco is still hurt that he wasn't the first choice for his own job and that the 1st choice is at Utah."

    I seriously doubt the thought has even crossed his in the 8 years since Bronco took the job.

    Kyle is nothing but a one-hit wonder, who has been steadily fading since that perfect storm season.

    Bronco has more Top 25 finishes, more Top 15 finishes, more conference championships, more 10+ win seasons, and more bowl appearances.

    Kyle does lead in two dubious categories, more losses to bad teams and more losing seasons.

    With the offense the Utes put on the field last year, it's no wonder Kyle desperately tried to coax Anae into helping Kyle save his failing program.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 8, 2013 11:34 p.m.

    PP:

    "The sad truth is Utah is less than Washington State in the Pac-10 pecking order..."

    What a frantic and emotional thing to say. When was the last time the Utes lost WSU? When was the last time WSU finished higher in the polls, or with a better conference record than the U? When was the last time WSU out-recruited the U? When was the last time WSU won a BCS bowl?

    It seems to me that "the sad truth is" -- or at least to the frantic and emotional Indy-WACey fanbase anyway -- that Utah is NOT!

    And I'm sure it brings many a tear to the eye of all the Y fans who noted how inept the Y's latest recruiting class looked compared to Washington State's. Oooh. That had to hurt.

    But, on a more positive note, at least know that your tears are delicious.

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 11:14 p.m.

    Bronco is still hurt that he wasn't the first choice for his own job and that the 1st choice is at Utah. Add to the fact that Utah has absolutely owned Bronco and BYU during his tenure and Bronco will look for ANY perceived victory vs. Utah.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 9:47 p.m.

    Was Anae interviewed like Erickson last week? Regardless, I hope Erickson joins the team.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 9:42 p.m.

    vegasute said:

    "you are right, I do not read (nor do I want to) byU articles."

    You're posting on a BYU article, you know one of the ones you supposedly "do not read (nor do I want to)".

    LOL!

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Feb. 8, 2013 9:18 p.m.

    gored

    I find it curious that Utah fans are throwing little tantrums because they're upset with Bronco for simply mentioning that Whittingham was also interested in Anae. Kyle drops little nuggets like this constantly. Any time he gets something that he knows another team covets - player, coach, facilities, whatever - Kyle always makes sure to "casually" mention it. Utah fans are simply upset that this time it's Bronco that got something that Kyle coveted.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 9:07 p.m.

    UteMiguel

    Classless?

    Why, because Bronco was able to hire a coach that Whittingham desperately wanted?

    If Whittingham is trying to replace Brian Johnson, why doesn't Kyle simply come out and say that, instead of sneaking around behind Brian's back and interviewing potential candidates without letting Brian know what his status is for next season?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 9:05 p.m.

    Totally Stockton, Utah didn't get any polys this year and probably never will again. We will keep getting them all, as always.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Feb. 8, 2013 8:46 p.m.

    Sounds to me like Bronco was just validating his re-hire of Anae by mentioning that Robert was also being pursued by at least one other school.

    Nothing sinister was intended. If Whittingham was embarrassed because Anae chose to come to BYU instead of Utah, that's Kyle's problem.

  • UteMiguel Go Utes, CA
    Feb. 8, 2013 8:36 p.m.

    this was a classless move by mendenhall. He is clearly feeling the heat and feels he needs to justify his personnel decisions to the public.

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 7:53 p.m.

    Well played Bronco, well played.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Feb. 8, 2013 6:48 p.m.

    VegasUte
    Las Vegas, NV

    You miss the point, or choose to ignore it. YES, there is a rabid, pitch fork and torch portion of the BYU fan base. There is a similar section in the U bleachers, but Y fans should know better.

    The point is, they didn't fire Anae, nor run him out of town at the point of a sharp stick, much as they, and you, would like to believe so. Bronco structured the thing in a manner that puzzled the heck out of most of us, but was apparently decent and honorable, as evidenced by Anae's return.

  • goutahutes Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 6:11 p.m.

    Another win for BYU? When has BYU won over Utah lately. Certainly not on the field. BYU's recruits where, for the most part, not recruited by hardly any one else (except the one O-lineman) and that is fact. Not looking good TDS, no conference, no good recruits, no wins over the Utes, and a OC that you fired a couple of years ago. Did Anae suddenly find out how to save a program in Arizona? Oh wait, he didn't do it there either. I still think he would have made a nice line coach though.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 8, 2013 5:55 p.m.

    I love it! You know Whittingham is grinding his teeth with this little tidbit of news.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 5:44 p.m.

    I find it curious that Bronco would have to bring up that point that the University of Utah made a push to hire Anae. So what? Coaches are courted as well as fired often in college and pro football. But it comes across as an attempt to somehow try to "one up" the U by saying that he got the offensive coordinator that the U had interest in.

    The funny thing here is that two years ago BYU couldn't get rid of him fast enough. It sounds to me that Bronco is trying to appease his fan base after pulling in a recruiting class ranked 71 by Rivals.com, as opposed to Utah's ranking of 42.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 8, 2013 5:23 p.m.

    Kyle lost his handle on recruiting poly's with Chow leaving... so it makes sense to try and get Anae. Even if he can't call plays he does have a good reporte with poly's and isn't bad on recruiting.

  • Ironhide Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 5:22 p.m.

    oh my. The last significant coaching spot on the hill that isn't manned by a former BYU player, but almost was. This will be the last time I say anything in reference to Chris B. Continue on with those aspirations. BYU has a national title. And the only school with a national award winner in every category. More hall of famers, college and NFL. More all americans. In the last 10 years, BYU has finished in the top 25 5 times, your mighty men in red, twice. Head to head, utah has the lead, but when B YU was and is the most important game you played for years, results will follow. So cling real tight to that. And keep up the condescension towards BYU, who has done more in college football than your utes ever have. The irony is, anything you say about BYU just puts utah down even further.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 5:10 p.m.

    So we Vegas Ute with the byU thing and PP countering with BYu. Should we talk about the red zone or the blue zone now? For me, I will take traditional red. Oh no, I used the word tradition. Here comes the 1984 and Heisman stuff. Traditional red zone, like you know, the scoring zone.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 5:06 p.m.

    Okay, I watched half the video now (up until the claim of Ute push to get Anae). It was kind of odd Bronco mentioned this, but no big deal. It looks like Bronco was happy to have Van Noy, Hoffman, and Anae come back so to speak (different relativity comparison there).

    Like I said, it was an odd mention. Since I had to watch like 6 minutes of video or so to get to the Anae information we are commenting on here, there was the information before to take in. I found the comments Bronco made about Doman somewhere around the three or four minute mark to be the most interesting. Those words were very respectful and complimentary about Doman. Well said I say.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 8, 2013 5:06 p.m.

    Phantomblade: Who is AJ?

  • PP Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:56 p.m.

    I just checked - Washington State is a real program in a real conference with real national title aspirations. So is Duke. So is Idaho. Everyone who puts on a uniform has national title aspirations. The sad truth is Utah is less than Washington State in the Pac-10 pecking order and pretty equal in terms of historical success. State has a good team every 10-15 years or so. Utah has one every 30 years or so.

    Go Ewetes

  • PP Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:53 p.m.

    ------------
    VegasUte
    Las Vegas, NV
    panamadesnews - you are right, I do not read (nor do I want to) BYu articles
    ------------
    LOL - you may not read them but you post comments on every one.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:53 p.m.

    Max

    "It doesn't get much more unprofessional than that, Bronco."

    If Kyle is trying to hire a new OC behind AJ's back, it's not Bronco's job to try to prevent Kyle from being embarrassed if it becomes public knowledge.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    VegasUte

    "What's wrong with bringing back a previous OC that you ran out of town?"

    Since BYU didn't run Robert Anae out of town, obviously nothing.

    All of this footstomping and hysteria from the hill is hilarious, since the Utes have already brought A-Rod back twice.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    Insightful comments from Y Grad Y Dad. Good comments can come from anywhere. Bad ones the same. I see Ute and Cougar comments that fit all descriptions. It would be nice if the majority of comments would be motivated by opinions and facts that are meant to critique things in a real way, not a manufactured source of prejudice and bias.

    Opinions are all good rather pro BYU or pro Utah if they aren't centered on demonizing the other. For goodness sakes, is Utah and BYU the equivalent of Catholics and Protestants in Northern Belfast?

    Duckhunter, that was not insightful or nice. Why is it so 'enjoyable' to seek fault or induce it in as many Ute fans comments you can find. You read them all, but many times I don't see you try to understand them other than to fault or fabricate hypocrisy.

    Are some Ute fans comments hypocritical? SURE. Are some mean spirited? Yes. Does it cut both ways? Absolutely.

    Sadly many find joy and LOL at every imagined folly they inject into someone else. What happened Duckhunter? You where much more level headed in December. Can Christmas come back again?

  • Disgruntled Nephi, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    If anybody knows about losing to PAC teams it's Chris B. and the Utes.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    panamadesnews - you are right, I do not read (nor do I want to) byU articles. But I do know a lot more than what you will ever give me credit for, which I have no problem with. You can believe what you want about how Anae left and the reasons therefore. That has nothing to do with what I said above. I was referring to the byU fanbase, or a least a portion thereof. My statement is verified by what byU Dad/byU Grad, an objective byU fan (and I don't mean that sarcastically) stated above about the rabid torch and pitchfork portion of the byU fanbase. That fanbase portion, two years ago anyway, was a lot bigger than any one here will admit, and I have several brothers and friends who were part of that "fanbase".

    So, I pass back to you " It's better to get the facts before you make untrue statements." I'll wait patiently for my apology.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:33 p.m.

    Gotta love the frantic and emotional spinning from the kids on the hill desperately trying to dispel any notion that the "mighty" Utes were left on the outside looking in when Anae chose to come back to BYU, rather than lend his expertise to fixing the offensive mess Whitless has create at the U.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:21 p.m.

    It makes sense going after Anae. Though not perfect, he would have been an intriguing hire for Utah. BYU was fortunate to get him back. Anae fits in well at BYU. I proclaimed a few years back (even when Anae was wanted out by many BYU fans) that it was a mistake letting him go.

    With more diverse experience under Rich Rod on his resume now, he might be better than before as well.

    I am a Brian Johnson fan, but I was also very apprehensive when Kyle hired BJ as the OC last year. I mean a QB coach is honor enough this early into a coaching career. Being an OC is a huge responsibility and takes a lot of perspective, know how, feel, and understanding. Last years 5-7 season was a coaching fiasco including Kyle mismanaging the QB position again.

    I haven't clicked onto the clip above yet and I haven't pondered any speculation as to why Mendenhall gave mention to this. Does it really matter? BYU got there guy back. We will see what happens.

    With Kyle also flirting with Erickson it's looking more clear he wants another wise old offensive mind a la Chow.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:20 p.m.

    y Dad: "No this wasn't newsworthy" - very true

    "I don't think Bronco is desperately anything" - then why is he making this a story? Just sayin'

    "and if the offer was to coach the line only, I'm not surprised that Coach Anae declined." - truer still, that is why the "hard push" part of this story is laughable. How far do you think Anae would have let the negotiations go?

    "rabid torch and pitchfork portion of the BYU fanbase wanted Anae's head on a pike" - truest statement of all. Yet that fanbase is now giddy with excitement over his return.

  • FatMan86 West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    Chris B,

    Your Utes have done nothing. Sub .500 in football, and dead last in basketball. Careful, you sound as credible as the worst BYU homer out there.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:10 p.m.

    Vegas Ute: I see that you do not read all of the BYU articles. If you did, you would find that Anae indicated that in 2010 he stepped down on his own and that Bronco tried to get him to stay. He wanted some experience elsewhere and having got that, feels he is more prepared than ever to run BYU's offense. It's better to get the facts before you make untrue statements.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 8, 2013 3:58 p.m.

    I love you Ernest T!

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 3:57 p.m.

    In your dreams, Chrissy. By the way, I didn't know you were a psychic.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 8, 2013 3:52 p.m.

    What is "depseraiton"?

    Swoop - What's wrong with bringing back a previous OC that you ran out of town? hmmmmmmm

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Feb. 8, 2013 3:45 p.m.

    Scenic View...

    Thank you for clarifying. I'm glad you were there with Bronco, Anae and Whit...

    What a lifesaver :)

  • Proud Ute ,
    Feb. 8, 2013 3:45 p.m.

    I'm sure Bronco isn't being completely forthcoming with the details of the hire and of course Coach Whitt is going to be classier than to discuss potential hires.
    But I'm giving it more than even odds the coog management threw a bone in there he could be in the running for the head coaching job after Bronco's contract runs out next year and he gets to escape the most fickle fan base in college athletics.

  • Darth Vader Ogden, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 3:39 p.m.

    BYU fans win another paper study. Congratulations!

    I hope the two teams will continue to decide the "winner" on the field.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    In Coach Whit's search for another coach, which has been ongoing for several weeks now, I don't doubt that Coach Anae was contacted. I also suspect in discussions of money, duties, titles, tenure, responsibilities, etc. that several other coaches contacted could claim a "real push" was made for their services. Just like I don't doubt the claim of half the y's recruits that Utah also recruited them. After all a letter mailed to "occupant" at their address could be contrived to be "recruitment"!

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 3:08 p.m.

    Max

    A little hyper-sensitive aren't we?

    What's wrong with bringing back a previously very successful Offensive Coordinator even if that program on the hill desperately wanted him?

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:54 p.m.

    Another win for Bronco and the Cougars.

    Kyle is obviously starting to panic after seeing the disastrous results of his failed experiment.

  • Max Charlotte, NC
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:54 p.m.

    It doesn't get much more unprofessional than that, Bronco.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:39 p.m.

    Fear, of being a perennial conference punching bag, is causing some frantic and emotional responses from the hill.

    Ease their pain Kyle; hire Gary Crowton to replace BJ.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:30 p.m.

    Wow, talk about striking a tender nerve! Chill down, Vegas.

    No this wasn't newsworthy, just interesting filler until real football news happens.

    I am, however, constantly amused/bemused/confused by people who insist on attributing evil or dishonest or disingenuous motives to either Coach Whittingham or Coach Mendenhall. With all the evidence to the contrary, why do you conspiracy nuts insist on taking a dangling thread and fabricating deceit out of whole cloth???

    I don't think Bronco is desperately anything, I don't think Coach Whit is (only) trying to undermine "that team down south," and if the offer was to coach the line only, I'm not surprised that Coach Anae declined. I think that while the rabid torch and pitchfork portion of the BYU fanbase wanted Anae's head on a pike, apparently Bronco and Robert concluded the relationship last time very amicably, as it appears it has started up again stronger than it was before.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:27 p.m.

    "I love being a real program, in a real conference, with real national title aspirations" Oh, man that is funny. Really brought a smile to my face. Especially the national title aspirations. This, my friends, is the definition of false hope.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:24 p.m.

    Actually Anae had already confirmed this before the Mendenhall interview. On BYUtv on signing day in the interview with Anae he said that is what had happened. It was also reported a couple of weeks ago. Why is it now all of a sudden news?

    I am enjoying all of the utah "fans" trying to "frantically and emotionally" claim it was somehting other than what it was. Talk about depseraiton.

    LOL!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:17 p.m.

    " ...... I love being a real program, in a real conference, with real national title aspirations ..... "

    Chris B -

    Too bad your little boys aren't contributing to the prestige of a "real conference". Congratulations on being the door mat in the Pac 10.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:12 p.m.

    We all thought that denial was a river in Egypt,

    but from the frantic and emotional responses above,

    it obviously flows freely from the hill.

  • bribri86 Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:05 p.m.

    Dennis Erickson for Utah's OC? You've got to be kidding me?!?! That would be the dumbest move Utah would ever make. That would solidify that Whittingham is whitless. Oh please do it! Your offensive production would be like ASU's for the last too long. Terrible! The best thing we (ASU) did was get rid of that dead weight. Oh please Utah...hire him...Oh I will laugh for a very long time!

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:06 p.m.

    "I love being a real program, in a real conference, with real national title aspirations"

    One out of three isn't bad.

    - real punching bag

    - real conference

    - imaginary national title hallucinations

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    Another win for the byu. We never loose these battles.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 8, 2013 1:41 p.m.

    Bronco is spinning everything he can in a desperate attempt to create the appearance that he is beating Utah head to head in ANY facet of the game. He certainly has not been successful on the football field and he is desperately lagging behind Utah in recruiting, both in state and out. So, let him spin this little victory and let the followers gloat. Yeah for byU!! You got back the coach you ran out of town two years ago to replace Bronco's failed OC experiment! Congratulations!

    Riddles - what is Doman doing now?

  • goutahutes Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 1:34 p.m.

    The article assumes that Anae would replace Brian Johnson as the Offensive Cordinator. May be a "strong push" for Anae was a position coach. He would have made a nice line coach. We already saw that he couldn't make it as an OC in the PAC 12. Please don't assume or mislead.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    Just like Taysom Hill is secretly regretting leaving prestigious pac 12 program to be a mediocre WAC team, Anae will soon regret not staying at Arizona or coming to Utah as again he loses to Pac 12 teams and leads a mediocre WAC offense.

    Utah 2013 Seniors will be 4-0 against byu

    And byu 2013 seniors will never have beaten Utah

    I love being a real program, in a real conference, with real national title aspirations

  • Dixie Dan Saint George, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    Utah should hire Brandon Doman as he is available.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 1:03 p.m.

    It's looking more and more like Brian Johnson is getting perilously close to being replaced, demoted, or "mentored".

  • scenic view Baltimore, MD
    Feb. 8, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    Wookie

    "strong push" means Whittingham desperately wanted an Offensive Coordinator from BYU to replace/mentor his failing 25-year old experiment.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 12:48 p.m.

    I'm glad Coach Anae chose to return to BYU and looking forward to seeing a much improved BYU offense next season.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Feb. 8, 2013 12:48 p.m.

    What does a "strong push" mean Mr. Bronco?