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Published: Thursday, Feb. 7 2013 8:00 p.m. MST

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Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'‘Mandate to require insurance coverage of autism treatment ...' - Title

How DARE Obama! The socialist!

WWJD?

Sarcasm, off.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Pagan" I thought your ilk wanted to make insurance cheaper. Why do you want to make health insurance more expensive so that fewer people can afford it.

You ask WWJD. Here goes. Jesus would heal him, and the need for the insurance mandate would not exist.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

My guess is if Jesus had a kid, he would have paid for his kid's health costs himself.

I dont think he would have demanded that others pay for his kids health costs, when he himself was the one who decided to have a kid.

I'm fine if health insurance companies cover it, I'm fine if they dont.

That way, each person/employer can decide what kind of play they want to be a part of. If its going to be covered, your premiums will obviously be higher. If its not coverered, your premiums will be cheaper.

When I buy health insurance, I'm aware of what it covers and what it doesn't cover. Its my job to be on a plan I like. I need to pay for my own insurance if need be to find a plan I like.

What is wrong is forcing others to pay for your decision to have a kid.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

You ask WWJD. Here goes. Jesus would heal him, and the need for the insurance mandate would not exist.

11:32 a.m. Feb. 8, 2013

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And you're not Jesus,
So providing Medical coverage to those who need it is the best we can do.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Open Minded Mormon" but is this necessary medical coverage? If somebody does not get the autism treatments will they die? What percent of children in Utah have a treatable autism condition?

The question isn't about need, but what we can afford. If your budget is already tight, what do you think happens when you add on another $50/month for insurance?

We tried this a couple of years ago, and it was shot down because most people are already tight on money. Why bring it up again?

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

To "Open Minded Mormon" but is this necessary medical coverage? - RedShirt

Just ask a person with Autism.

Oh, wait....

Yes, it is necessary. To claim otherwise is to admit you don't know what you are talking about.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Pagan" to claim that it is necessary only shows that you don't understand what necessary medical coverage entails.

Why should we keep making insurance more expensive by mandating more procedures? (Nice edit by not including the next sentence.)

If a person does not get autism treatment, will they die or be immobilized?

If you answer "no" then it is not necessary, but a want. I go through the same thing with small children who can't differentiate between a need and a want. This is a want, not a need.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

The government should not mandate what coverage needs to be in policies, that should be the function of the market place.

Adding this as a covered treatment will raise insurance costs for everyone. Even if you don't have kids.

And, remember, a "child" is now anyone up to age 26 who MUST be covered as part of a parent's policy, thanks to Obamacare. This will add a lot more to your insurance costs.

jrgl
CEDAR CITY, UT

The shocking numbers of children with autism in Utah keep rising,one in forty-seven in 2008. It's also interesting that other states have gone ahead with the insurance mandate requiring coverage for treatment of autism. We are only one of 18 states that don't require it all the rest have managed to cover Autism treatment. Autism is really difficult ans I have a loved one with Autism.
Sadly, no one stops to think before having a child in Utah that their child will be the child with Autism. But we are number one in the nation for Autism. Not something to be proud of and I have to ask myself "why"? Why all this autism? What is happening here? I'm not sure those who do not deal with Autism on a daily basis realize how difficult the behavioral difficulties impact families, schools and communities.

Honest Abe
Salt Lake City, UT

We need to hear this proposal through. It is important to remember that there is a wide spectrum varying from mild to extremely limiting. While autism does not cause one to die, it can severely affect the way a person lives, as well as those around them. Unlike the government's program of giving out smart phones to unemployed citizens, government should play a roll in protecting the truly vulnerable in our society, namely children, elderly and those who do not have the capacity to care for themselves due to physical or mental limitations. Of course, families have responsibilities for care, and perhaps churches too, but does it end there? I have a sister with an autistic son who cannot obtain insurance for him. The costs every month are too much for the family because of his medications. He requires special attention and therapy in order to function. Insurance companies do not cover these children because they are not required to. It seems to me rather than mandate insurances cover such things as contraception, they cover autistic children. Rather than expand insurance for the healthy and capable, we look at ways to help those who have nowhere else to turn.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

To "Pagan" to claim that it is necessary only shows that you don't understand what necessary medical coverage entails.

Why should we keep making insurance more expensive by mandating more procedures? (Nice edit by not including the next sentence.) - RedShirt

**'Wellpoint Drops Coverage For Some Women With Breast cancer' - By Mary Ellen Egan - Forbes Magazine - 04/23/10

'Yesterday, an investigation by Reuters revealed that Wellpoint routinely drops coverage of women with breast cancer. According to the report, Wellpoint used a computer algorithm that automatically targeted...'

Because medical cost's have been going up since 1981. And because before healthcare reform passed people would pay for expensive medical procedures...

and still be dropped from their healthcare insurance.

FYI? I worked in an organ transplant center for x4 years. I have seen a kidney transplant with my own eyes.

What makes you an expert on necessary medical coverage Redshirt?

Nothing.

stanfunky
Salt Lake City, UT

How about the insurers and medical teams stop charging astronomical rates for everything? If the insurer is so worried about it raising rates, then mandate what can be charged. It's fair to families who don't choose to have a child with ASD, to the ignorant posters out there who say they 'chose' this. They don't choose it any more than a person chooses their hair color. The Senate should pass this and get Utah out of the backwaters on coverage for ASD.

vern001
Castle Rock, CO

"Why should others pay for someone else's kid's condition?"

Because that's the way insurance works. We all chip in and then when someone gets sick or has a condition like autism/Down syndrome/Alzheimer's/etc. etc. the insurance company pays. In other words, the healthy subsidize the sick and disabled. If you don't like that idea, then don't buy insurance, because the whole idea of insurance is to socialize health crises.

As for the cost, the SL Tribune reports that in other states with an autism mandate, it has increased costs by 31 cents/month per enrollee. That's not going to bankrupt anyone.

Finally, to those who object to this, I would say have a heart. You could be hit by a car tomorrow and end up with cognitive delays. Do you want the rest of us refusing to pay for your care? These kids, through no fault of their own, need our help. Let's do the right thing for them.

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GeorgiaFerg
Layton, UT

From a FINANCIAL perspective... mandating insurance to cover autism therapies for children will save us millions in the future. Research shows that 47% of children who receive therapies attain normal cognitive functioning, vs only 2% of people who did not receive therapy who attained normal cognitive functioning.

Therapy can make the difference between a nonverbal adult living on state assistance, to a verbal functioning adult who has a job and pays taxes. It's pay 38 cents/year now or pay a heckuva lot more later in taxes to support them.

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