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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 6 2013 8:00 p.m. MST

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merich39
Salt Lake City, UT

Can we form this as a pro-life discussion? Certainly Governor Herbert and a majority of the legislature are pro-life. And this gunky air is absolutely harming (even killing) both the born and unborn. So can we appeal to the pro-life side of Utah's government to do something substantive to improve Utah's air quality?

SundanceKid27
OREM, UT

I bet all of these people drove separate cars to this function. Way to make a statement.

Just an Observer
Salt Lake City, UT

I don't think anyone on this board thinks clean air is a Democrat issue. What are considered Democrat issues are *some* of the non-viable "solutions" proposed. Worse yet, expecting that they don't have personal responsibility--“We want him to step up and give us real world solutions”; “We are sick of him pointing the finger at us”--is also, rightly or wrongly, considered a Democrat issue. Republicans can be more proactive at coming up with workable solutions that would not appeal to the personal-liberty crowd, and Democrats can be more willing to take responsibility for their own actions rather than expecting someone else to fix things for them.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

‘Studies link air pollution to increased risk of strokes and dementia’ – by Amy Joi O’Donoghue – Deseret news – 02/15/12

‘SALT LAKE CITY — Three new studies that underscore the link between bad air quality and significant health risks such as stroke, heart attacks and dementia suggest there is no safe level of air pollution and that more needs to be done to control the problem.’

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'EPA inventory shows Utah's sources of greenhouse gas' - By Amy Joi O'Donoghue - 02/05/13 - Published by the Deseret News

'WASHINGTON — The nation's power plants continue to be the single largest stationary source of greenhouse gas emissions, according to new information released Tuesday by the Environmental Protection Agency.'

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

These people who want the governor to fix the problem are fooling them selves, wasting gas and creating more pollution to go to the capital to protest, and wasting theirs and the press's time. The governor is not the source of the pollution. It is all of us, and our cars, and our home heat.

If these people really cared, they would protest the drivers. Perhaps they could stay in their own neighborhoods organizing carpools, or holding up signs by busy roads saying things like:

Is this trip really necessary?

Please share the unused seats in your car.

Scrape, don't idle.

Turn down your heat at home.

Then they would be doing something helpful.

This protest is a spoiled child temper tantrum.

Thefullnancy
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

If all businesses went to rotaintg schedule like four 10's or nine 9's we would eliminate many commute days from the Provo to SLC and Ogden to SLC cummutes. Trust me the air would significantly improve. The reason this is not being done is purely the refusal of businesses to do so.

Dave D
Pocatello, ID

Can we all stop assuming that people at the rally drove in individual cars? I don't think that's fair or productive to a very important conversation.

Thefullnancy
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

If all businesses would go to rotaing schedules of four 10's or nine 9's and have alternate days off for employees we would see a significant decrease in the number of commutes along the Wasatch Front. The air would improve significantly. The reasons businesses won't do this is simply they do not want to. The excuses run the gamut from increased liability to reduced production from employees. All unproven and all just excuses. This is really an easy fix and one that would strengthen the areas reputation for business.

Swiss
Price, Utah

Nothing that half of you moving off the Wasatch Front wouldn't cure. The prison is the least polluting population and you waint to move it. Move the U its populationi Is the most polluting.

BU52
Provo, ut

I'm glad to hear that some people are planning on moving out, that will help. but I wonder how many of those protesters drove their cars up to the capitol in order to ask the government to solve this natural problem? Maybe they could legislate on how much snow should fall during a given storm as well.

VST
Bountiful, UT

I have as solution!

Since we do not have this problem in the middle of the summer (when there are NO temperature inversions), let us take all the mountains surrounding the Wasatch Front, and move them to Colorado. We could become as flat as a Kansas prairie. Then magic happens – no more trapped pollution in January because of temperature inversions.

There – I offered up a solution. Not a realistic one, but it is a solution. That is one more solution than Carl Ingwall and his band of whiners offered up yesterday at the Capitol.

But that is about as realistic as moving the one million new people living here since 1980 off the Wasatch Front who now significantly add to the pollution problem. Maybe Carl and others believe that all the Governor has to do is "spit in the wind" to make the pollution go away.

Here is a hint for Carl and his merry band of whiners: Until we TOTALLY get off of using petroleum driven vehicles, there will be NO realistic solution. That will NOT happen tomorrow AND will take decades to solve.

Feel better now, Carl? I certainly do.

SLC gal
Salt Lake City, UT

I didn't realize the Gov. of Utah had the power to move the mountain ranges when they get inconvient. Fascinating!!!

VST
Bountiful, UT

@SLC gal,

Obviously you did not understand I am being facetious. Try not to take yourself too seriously.

joseywales
Park City, UT

To all those who keep saying you bet they all drove individually.

Afterward, rally participants said they made it to the event in a number of ways — walking, public transit, carpooling and yes, some drove up individually in their cars to rally about clean air.

Sometimes if you just read the whole article, instead of assuming, you learn something. Then you don't look foolish when commenting.

I'm betting that more drove than not, but still it clearly states in the article that some found alternative methods of transportation.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Believer2" you are wrong. We can change the geography. Look at photos from 100 years ago of the area where Kennecott is currently located. There used to be a mountain there.

Maybe the solution is to have Kennecott or another mining operation start an open pit mine and carve away a mountain so that when an inversion begins it form, the cold air will "drain" out of the valley?

Carson
Provo, UT

Require all out of state BYU & UVU students to leave their personal cars at home...We have a transit system!

Pierda
kaysville, ut

I wonder how many of the protesters drove their cars to the state capital to be part of the pointless effort?

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

VST: Have you considered that SLC gal's comment might also have been facetious? Try not to take her too seriously...

Fern RL
LAYTON, UT

'Amanda Smith,... said offering free public transit on bad air days may “feel good,” but she wondered aloud at how effective it would be...“Until we start to grasp that and change how we live our lives, we are going to have an air quality problem,”'

Some of the "...how we live our lives" is government related. Public transit is not feasible for private industry to sponsor, only for government. "Free fare days" wouldn't necessarily help, either. It would just encourage more people to get out and cram onto FrontRunner for entertainment purposes. There needs to be a balance between making the fares more affordable than driving a two-occupant car, and more convenient and accessible to more people. That will cost money. I think it would be more affordable in the long run to have monthly or yearly passes be especially bargain priced. That way, even if people don't think they will ride very often they can feel better about buying the convenience of the pass and perhaps get their money's worth.

Having to drive your car and fill a parking slot all day to ride transit makes little sense either.

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