Hey lint, I posted this once for christina's benefit but it looks like you
need to read it as well. From the trib."While the Utes
didn’t land any so called four-star athletes, which might cause some fans
to be concerned, Whittingham isn’t. "We don’t pay
attention to all that," he said. "We recruit with our eyes and our ears
and do our own evaluations and assessments."Hmmm.......LOL!
Tators:"As far as recruiting goes, if you will check, you will
find that the vast majority of BYU's new recruits were also recruited by
Utah, but chose BYU. That's a solid fact."Here's a
solid fact for you: The ONLY cougar recruits who signed with the Y that had
also been offered by the U were Kearsley, Peoples, Shumway, and Trammell.
Wesley's offer was pulled by Utah before he took a recruiting trip to ASU,
and the when the Devils decided to not offer Wesley, and with Utah already
having filled his spot with another committed recruit, Wesley did not choose the
Y over the U. He chose the Y over Colorado St.So with only 4
recruits choosing the Y over the U, you had GROSSLY overstated the number of Y
athletes that had been pursued by the U. Four is NOT a "vast majority".
How frantic and emotional of you.
CalJac:"Bronco has stated that 'star' ratings are of
no importance to him..."That's probably why you wound up
with 2-star Riley Nelson. If "star ratings" are of no
importance, why was 4-star Brayden Kearsley's house Anae's FIRST stop,
and his last stops were to JUCO O-Linemen Josh Carter and Edward Fusi...both of
whom were ZERO star recruits until AFTER signing with the cougs, and neither of
whom had any other FBS offers.Cougar coaches only stress the
"unimportance" of star ratings when they know they aren't going to
get many, and don't want to have to answer to the fans over it. This is
just a classic case of the "emperor's clothes" coupled with the
cognitive dissonance of hopeless failure.Just as a point of
reference...prior to the 2013 class, the U out-recruited the Y in 8 of the last
11 recruiting classes. Does the ratio "8 of the last 11" look familiar
to you? You're not playing a weak WAC schedule this year, yet you're
still signing weak-WACish recruits.
Ship ahoy Naval Vet!"Wow! Each year, your recruiting classes
just keep getting ranked lower and lower. 77% of your recruits were 2-star
talentYour knowledge of the Y's recruiting strategy is
obviously at a Seaman Recruit level. Unlike other ego driven schools, Bronco has
stated that "star" ratings are of no importance to him. Rivals reports
are meaningless too. Bronco's criteria for recruiting are:1.
Must be able to play at a D1 level (no star ratings required or relevant)2. Must be a young man of character that can uphold the standards of BYU3. Must want to be @ BYU more than any other school4. Must be willing to
work hard Considering most young men in college couldn't uphold
the standards at BYU, Bronco is doing an excellent job being so competitive each
year with what you call "2-star talent." You should be singing his
praises for doing what he does with "both hands tied behind his back."
No other school in the country comes close to the standards BYU has and is still
this competitive in D1 football. Many who can't meet the strict academic or
honor code standards go elsewhere out of necessity (Utah??)
Is it just me, or did Robert Anae have some fire in the belly in front of the
microphone yesterday. He appears to be hungry to wake up the offense.
Yo Chris, Here's some food for thought for you and your
obsession with star ratings. The only PAC school with a lower average star
rating per player was Colorado. Which, I guess means in your line of thinking
Utah will just barely be eleventh in the PAC. Maybe a tad optimistic but
probably about right. Congratulations on "your" bottom feeding BCS
I have a question for Anae...If the cougars won't be playing in
the WAC anymore, why are they still signing WAC-worthy recruiting classes?
Rivals currently lists the Y's class at #75!75?Wow!
Each year, your recruiting classes just keep getting ranked lower and lower.
77% of your recruits were 2-star talent...the last few were graded at the lowest
possible Rivals rating of 5.2.
Wow, 5 (count 'em) comments from Chris B. about BYU recruiting. We know
what you're really best at, Chris...Lot's of first person
references, too. I wasn't aware the U let girls play on their football
chris b - I know being in the PAC makes you feel good, like you're eating
with the cool kids at lunch. But I wouldn't be so happy with my team if
the football team was 2nd to last, the men's basketball team was in last
place, the women's basketball team was in last place, and the baseball team
was in last place.I kind of like cheering for a football team
that's gone to a bowl game 7 years in a row and won 6 of them finishing in
the Top 25 five of the last seven years, a basketball team that has gone to the
NCAA six years in a row, a women's basketball team that will make another
run in the tourney, a volleyball team that may be the best in the nation, and a
women's soccer team that took the NC to overtime before losing in the great
eight. I cheer for my team not my conference. It's a tough
time to be a Ute. It's a great time to be a Coug!
Hey Chris B:I counted 16 in the article Tators pointed out who
signed with BYU and were recruited also by Utah. Before you post, do your
reading of the Deseret News!
Bomar:As a 3-star WR with 4.4 speed, it was ultimately determined
that McTyer possessed one star too many, and ran way too fast for him to fit in
with the cougars' slow-footed, 2-star, culture of WAC-ish mediocrity. So
he signed with a faster MWC team instead.
OC FanOrange County, CAWhat's happened to Doman?They need issue an APB and start checking under all the buses in Happy
Valley. Weeks since he got "transitioned" to another job and no
statement or word of his whereabouts? Amongst all the weirdness at the
tds, this has got the be the weirdest.
I have to laugh at anyone who says or thinks that they "won" something
in recruiting on signing day. Talk to me in 2-3 years and then maybe I'll
agree that you "won". Until then all of you BYU and Utah holy war
zealots just sound kinda silly.
@Tators,I count 6 who picked Utah with Utah and byu offers.I count 4 who picked byu with Utah and byu offers/6 > 4
What's happened to Doman?
Class of 2013 will have to prove that football success is more than stars and
entitlements. The Cougars will always have to overcome a deck stacked against
them. Another reason I root for the underdog Cougs.
@ Chrissy BTo see the signings that BYU made and how many of them were
also offered by the U, please go to this article in today's Deseret News:
"BYU Football's Official Class of 2013 Roster" You can count them for yourself (if the numbers don't get too big
to confuse you). The majority of those signed Y recruits also had offers from
the U. And of the ones that didn't, most still received offers from
multiple PAC12 teams that finished better than the U in their conference
standings. It's all there in black and white for anyone to read.
Remember the puzzling way BYU and Anae parted ways two years ago? Makes me glad
now that Bronco figured out a way to make it amicable for all concerned.
@Tators,Please list those who had OFFERS from Utah and BYU. The
last 3 years Utah was won that battle.Interesting, we've also
won the game the last 3 years.Interesting, we were invited to a BCS
conference 3 years ago.Coincidences? Nope.
@Chris BOne fact that you can't dispute... BYU won another bowl
game this past season, and the U didn't and couldn't even qualify for
one. An indisputable fact! Maybe that's why so many of the recruits that
the U went after ended up signing with BYU.
To: Chrissy BYou're losing your touch. For a change, you weren't
the first to post on a BYU article. But as usual, your comment was uninformed
and biased, meaning as usual, that most people just smile and write it off.As far as recruiting goes, if you will check, you will find that the vast
majority of BYU's new recruits were also recruited by Utah, but chose BYU.
That's a solid fact.After BYU solidly beats the U this next season, I
hope to read your usual first comment with your usual excuses about the loss.
When the Deseret becomes more objective, they will start listing your comments
in the comic section where they belong.
@mussing,Please tell is where byu would have landed.WOULD being the key word, since the Pac 12 doesn't want you.
BomarIt would have been great to have Torry McTyer, but solidifying
the OL and DL was a higher priority for this signing class.
Chris had plenty of time to come up with his cute little anecdotes all December
long, since he wasn't making plans to watch his team in a bowl game. Oh
wait, I forgot, his team DID win their bowl game, in September. Chris was among
those who rushed the field, all 3 times. Chris, speaking of mediocre
WAC teams remind us how your mighty PAC basement dwellers did against the only
WAC team you played last year. You remember it, up in Logan. Your mom let you
travel to that one didn't she?
#9 UCLA#13 USC#18 Washington#21 Oregon#30 California#32 ASU#36 Arizona#37 Utah#38 OSUCongratulation
Utah! U barely avoided finishing in the bottom third of the conference. While the big boys of the PAC 10.2 solidify their positions at the top,
the Utes are busy solidifying their position at the bottom of the PAC.With 6 guaranteed conference losses in 2013 - Arizona, ASU, Oregon, USC, UCLA
and Stanford - the Utes will be in the same position as they were last season,
needing at least one win against BYU, Utah State, or Oregon State to avoid
finishing with another losing season and no bowl.
What happened to those verbals that did not sign? Also why didn't the
Cougs sign Tim McTyer? They always need DB's.
Most recruits who had offers from Utah and BYU picked Utah. Again.I love being better.
You just got beat in recruiting by Duke and Kansas. Now if this were basketball
that would not be embarrassing.Kansas, yes. 1-11 last year.So good talent is more excited about joining a 1-11 football team than a
mediocre WAC team?LOLP.S. Go look at how recent national
champions did in recruiting. Let me know if the past couple years they got tons
of 1 and 2 stars and turned them into national champs.LOL
Let's hope try #2 is better than his first time, which wasn't all that
horrible. BYU will be good in 2013!