@ScottWhere would mighty BYU rank in you list? Do tell
@ talkinalot"Get used to being a PAC 10.2 punching
bag..."It could be worse. We could be the Pac 12 punching
bag's independent WACey punching bag.Three in a row, eight of
the last eleven :)
navel vetLOL at your spin.It's gotta be tough
pretending to be one of the big boys, when you're so embarrassed by your
9th/10th place recruiting ranking in the PAC 10.2, that can't even show
your face to talk smack on a PAC 12 blog.Get used to being a PAC
10.2 punching bag... that's all you'll ever be.Only two
seasons in the PAC 10.2 and already BYU has once again become your bowl game.
scott:"U rushed the field THREE times for a game that "means
nothing to the Utes",...?"Utah rushed the field because they
won. Look back to 2008. Utah rushed the field after beating TCU and Oregon
State too. Students rush the field all the time now. You're a lesser team
now. Utah's top priority now is winning the Pac-12 South. Next in line
comes beating our other Pac-12 peers. Of third importance would be
non-conference opponents from relevant conferences...like Michigan from the
BigTen. The cougars are tied for fourth on our priority list, alongside teams
such as Utah St. and Fresno St. Get used to being #4, but cheer
up...you're still more important to us than Weber St.
rjonesU rushed the field THREE times for a game that "means
nothing to the Utes", yet not a single Utah fan has even bothered comparing
Utah's recruiting class to other schools in the PAC 12?Just in
case U were wondering,here's how the PAC-12 (national ranking)
and the Utes stacked up nationally. Good luck winning a conference title anytime
EVER when you're only 9th or 10th in recruiting. ESPN 1.
UCLA (12) 2. USC (14) 3. Washington (18) 4. Oregon (26) 5. California (30) 6. Arizona (39) 7. Stanford (40) 8.
Arizona State (42) 9. Oregon State (46) 10. Utah (48) 11.
Washington State (58) 12. Colorado (67) Rivals 1. UCLA
(11) 2. USC (13) 3. Washington (18) 4. Oregon (21) 5.
California (29) 6. Arizona State (32) 7. Arizona (36) 8.
Oregon State (37) 9. Utah (41) 10. Washington State (52) 11.
Stanford (61) 12. Colorado (67) Scout 1. UCLA (5) 2. Washington (14) 3. Oregon (17) 4. USC (18) 5. Arizona
(27) 6. California (29) 7. Arizona State (31) 8. Oregon State
(38) 9. Washington State (39) 10. Utah (47) 11. Stanford (59)
12. Colorado (66)
This is for all of you complaining about all the BYU posters on here well i
was just over on the BYU article about their recruiting class , 78 comments
and almost half are from utah,s so called fans trash talking about the
cougars ,so everybody just needs to grow up and stop the trash talk ,i
thought you were all adults but apparently we have 5 year olds from both
schools posting garbage on here on both threads time to grow up.
I thought this was an article about this year's college recruiting for
Utah, not a lament about a team that had a great season in the previous century.
Since several posts went down that road I want to remind everyone of another
team. That team went undefeated, won their conference championship and was the
#1 team in the AP poll at the end of the year. They also beat several top
ranked teams that year and had a Heisman trophy winner. That team was the 1941
Minnesota Golden Gophers and while it is a nice historical review, it has
nothing to do with the current state of college football and neither does
1984.Now to a relevant comment about the article. For the second year in
a row, Utah added more than 20 players rated 3 stars or higher. They have built
a good foundation for the future and have a significantly higher rated class at
#41 (according to Rivals) than either BYU at #75 or USU at #103. This was a
good day for the Utes in 2013.
You all need to stop with the Utah/BYU arguments on here. BYU's national
championship came in a completely different era of the game so it is impossible
to compare the 2008 Utes with the 84 Cougars. Also, as a current student at the
U, I have to say that I don't even consider this a rivalry anymore. Yeah,
the students reacted at last year's game like it is a rivalry, but beating
BYU means nothing to the Utes now. The PAC-12 championship is all that we care
about. Hopefully the coaching staff can capitalize on the incredible team
talent that the Utes have.
Utah fans: another good recruiting class. Ranked #41. That's ahead of Miami
and Wisconsin (whom we don't play) and just behind Arizona and Oregon State
(whom we do play).#11 UCLA#13 USC#18 Washington#21
Oregon#29 California#32 ASU#36 Arizona#37 OSU#41
Utah9th in the PAC 10.2 in recruiting, with 7 guaranteed conference
losses in 2013 - Arizona, ASU, Oregon, USC, UCLA, OSU and Stanford - and the
Utes hoping to pick up one win against BYU, Utah State, or Oregon State to avoid
finishing with worse losing season than last year and no bowl.That
about sums it up!
He just figured he would have a better chance of making the NFL as a DB from
Utah, than a QB from AFA.
Mount Olympus, from what I've read, Thomas is expected to be a defensive
back at Utah, which is what made him take so long to make his decision, as Air
Force was interested in him as a QB prospect.
A lot of fans from Provo's school of Pharisees are posting on this article
about the Utes.Utes had higher recruiting ranking (according to Rivals,
ESPN, Scout, and 24 7 sports).Utes addressed QB need. Learned
lesson from Wynn injury. Manning looks like a great Pro-style QB. Cox is a
dual threat. Thomas is very quick. At least they'll have options when it
comes to QB position. I've heard rumors Thomas may only play QB if needed;
probably play a different position. That may be incorrect.Decent
class for Utes.
Indy-WACey "Utah" Punching Bag:Utah signed a 4-star WR
(Lewis). Sure, he was a JUCO recruit, rather than a high schooler, but which
recruit do you think experts will be predicting to provide a more immediate
impact? A mature WR with 2-yrs collegiate experience? Or a teenage OL with
none?Next time, don't be so frantic and emotional.
Hahaha oh byu "fans". We can see that this is hurting you. We were
supposed to be viewed by the nation, including all these high school kids, as a
doormat, right? While you were supposed to be viewed as the greatest college
football program ever with the strongest national brand, or cachet, or whatever
you kept calling yourselves. You started to believe what other "fans"
were posting on the message boards. It was obvious that the best athletes would
rather play for you than anyone else! And then this happens. Like I said, we can
see that this hurts.But when you come to articles about our recruits
to talk about how we can't be competitive with a 37th ranked class, while
you yourselves are ranked 69th... you just look, well.. hurt.You
Probably the most disappointing aspect of this is that we still finished in the
bottom half of the PAC12 in our recruiting ranking and did not get one single 4
star HS recruit. Even as we brag about our recruiting we did not get a single
top HS kid, not one. Even BYU got a 4 star top rated offensive lineman. As we continue to fall further and further behind the rest of our
conference, put up even more losing conference seasons like the last two, stay
home from bowl games because we aren't good enough to be in them, and
generally maintain our mediocrity, it will be interesting to see our stadium
lose attendence just like the Huntsman Center has. These are sad and
frustrating days for those of us that are true Ute Fans and not just frantic and
emotional BYU haters.
Ive got an idea Ute fans, we should find a team with a much better recruiting
class than ours like UCLA and start trolling them because it would somehow make
sense right?-If Utah fans thought like BYU fans
BYU fans. Let's discuss the future for a change; and even the article. Per
Rivals: BYU's class (#69) is ranked below Houston, Duke, Toledo and every
team in the PAC 12. Wow! How discouraging. Utah fans: another good
recruiting class. Ranked #37. That's ahead of Michigan State, Wisconsin,
and Miami. Just behind Arizona and Oregon State.That about sums it
Utah has a vastly superior recruiting class for 2013 than y! The proof of the
pudding is how many Yner trollers there are on this story. The worse byU does,
the more trollers come out on Utah stories!! Go Utes!!
Spokane UteIt's so discouraging knowing that no matter how
successful we think we are in recruiting, we still end up 5-7 and playing in the
couch potato chip bowl.
No reason in trying to debate a tree stump(s). On topic: another nice recruiting
class, 7 recruits from Texas. Kids from Texas, Cali, Utah and a few JUCO's:
Nice! I beleive last year was an anomolly. Here's to 2013; and a new bowl
detination. The Alamo Bowl would be nice; or even another stellar season; capped
with a BCS bowl. The possibilities are endless. It must be really sad to know
that whether you win 6 games; or 11, you will still end up in San Diego, playing
in the Kraft, Macaroni and Cheese Bowl. How discouraging. GO UTES!
Who's "we" Provo? Got a mouse in your pocket?Washington
and Nebraska, both ranked in the Top 5, were both invited to play #1-ranked BYU
in the 1984 Holiday Bowl. Neither was willing to accept the challenge of playing
BYU for the national championship.BYU proved itself by beating every
team that was willing to play the Cougars in 1984.If you want to
blame someone for BYU playing Michigan in the Holiday Bowl, blame Washington and
Nebraska, who both passed on the opportunity.Washington beat a
lower-ranked Oklahoma team in another bowl, then whined when they only finished
#2 in the polls. Eight months later, the Huskies got their chance
for redemption. BYU crushed Washington 31-3.
We didn't play in a championship game in 1984. In fact we didn't
really play in any big games. Unless you count our bowl game against a bad team,
but still we definitely didn't prove ourselves against ANY of the top
competition in college football. Not once. This is why we like
playing against bad teams now. It's all about the wins, no matter how you
get 'em! When's the Idaho game?GO COUGARS!
papi_chulo@you have to add BYU to that list as well, that was
convenient of you to forget the U's recent dominance over them over the
past decade or so...
Spokane UteDon't kid yourself, the destination for Utah is also
always same: Into the great unknown, where nary a
red-tailed hawk has flown.What Utah did in 2008 (#2/#4) doesn't
even come close to what BYU did in 1984 (#1/#1)!Next time U launch a
national championship campaign, U might want to start by having a Top 10 season
the year before.FIVE Top 12 finishes in six seasons, a 24-game
winning streak that included two road wins against Top 15 teams, and
back-to-back Top 7 Finishes is what gave BYU the credibility to win the 1984
National Championship.Find a period anywhere in Utah's entire
history that even comes close to matching that record and we'll discuss
Utah's "worthiness" to be considered a national championship
Marky MarkDon't kid your self, the destination is always the
same; 1984. Almost 30 years ago. You remember that year don't you?
Defeating a 6-6 Michigan team? Not a single win against a ranked team? Which BCS
bowl was that game played in? Sorry, but BYU's 1984 season doen't even
come close to what Utah did in 2008.
As a Cougar fan I have to admit it's a good looking class (as well as the
Cougars class). However I'm really sad to see not more than a few Utah
kids are on either of these classes (Utah State included).
Spokane UteSorry, but finishing lower than #1 in the final rankings
- AP and/or Coaches Poll - isn't a championship, no matter which bowl game
you win in December or January, or in Utah's case, September.When getting in a time machine, the first requirement is to have a time
destination in mind - unlike U, BYU has a time destination it can go to when it
comes to major college football national championships.
Welcome to the U, good luck, and get ready to work!
I like the class. Plenty of athleticism and speed. Good mix of JC's and
High Schoolers. Very excited about the QB's.
gdog3finallyI hear ya'! Actually 2011 wasn't a bad season;
outside of the Buffs fiasco. I'm still not sold on Wilson. He doesn't
seem to through the bomb (50 yard) pass very often. I think Brian Johnson did a
better job as the season went on. Some major talent left, so the Utes definately
need to reload. I'm optimistic that coach Whittingham will get things back
on track. Thanks for the response, take care and it looks like a good recruiting
class.Marky MarkActually, championships are won by the U
in December (Sun Bowl) and January (Sugar Bowl). When's the last time BYU
played a bowl in January? Y are you getting in your time machine to answer the
"Remember, championships aren't won in February..."Nor
are they won in September, October, November, December, or January...at least not at the U!
I want to be stoked about the recruits. I believe in the Ute program and
its' recruits. We just need to show it on the field, which brings in better
recruits. The new facilities will help recruiting from here on out. @Spokane Ute, I hear you but I wasn't down about 2011 (except Colorado).
It was a good first year in the PAC. Last year was a huge let down though. Kyle
mismanaged the QB position AGAIN, going with Wynn for a third injured season.
Fall reps were taken from another QB. Three years of wasted talent at the WR
spot happened because the QB couldn't throw the ball more than 15 yards.
Also, developing Travis Wilson for the future sounds good if he is even the
answer. Still, putting him in so early last year cost Utah a bowl game. Hays was
benched right as White IV got healthy (hurt the first half of the year). That
was a mistake. Utah's defense played well enough to beat both UCLA and OSU
(Wilson's first two starts). The offense was as bad as could be those two
weeks. Going 0-2 in conference isn't the time to make wholesale changes.
Papi - I am so glad I am a Utah grad. Simple things come to me - like "You
heard it here first"?Really? I may have read it here first, but
certainly I did not hear it here first. That is Y you will always by looking up
to the U - we are educated and now - you are schooled.
Championship! Rose Bowl!
You Utes will roll it into wins alright. Maybe when you play teams like Weber
State and Northern Colorado. You Utes will get blown away in every one of your
Pac-12 games this year. You heard it here first. ;)
Top to bottom, easily the best signing day class. Now let's roll it into
It's exciting to see everything start coming into play. We can throw
numbers out there, but don't forget guys, its only February. We still have
A LOT of work to do.
The class certainly looks good on paper; then again, they always do. Utah is
ranked (per rivlas) #37. That's right behind Oregon and just ahead of
Oregon State. That's pretty fast company. Now Utah needs to make the most
of these recruits. That always seemed to be the case from about 2004 to 2010;
but the last two seasons have been dissapointing: to say the least.GO UTES!