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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 5 2013 6:30 p.m. MST

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Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

The Church always will defend the right.

very concerned
Sandy, UT

I'm grateful for a church that teaches tolerance and compassion, yet stands up for measures that are good and right. The Family: A Proclamation to the World says it this way in the last two paragraphs,

*we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.

We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society.*

I couldn't say it better. And by *family*, the shurch does not mean same-sex marriage.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Good job Mormons! I am with you on this.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I look forward to hearing from those who claim to be Mormons to see if they agree with their prophet, who they say speaks for God.

Phillip M Hotchkiss
Malta, Mt

@Hutterite. Are you aware that " Hutterite " is a religions group? Or are you excluding your self from your statememt. The Hutterites i know respect others for what they stand for. And I respect them as well.

Phillip M Hotchkiss
Malta, Mt

@ Chris B. I support the Prophet. I raise my hand in show of support.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@very concerned

Sorry, but we're a nation that isn't a theocracy. The LDS, Catholic and other churches are and should be perfectly free to not marry same-sex couples but to impose a religious rule on others for no reason other than a religious one (that's why Prop 8 keeps losing in the courts, they have failed to provide secular justification) is against the Constitution.

JSB
Sugar City, ID

Our nation has very serious problems most of which are the result of the disintegration of the traditional family of a father and a mother who diligently strive to raise well-adjusted children. Too many children are coming from dysfunctional homes who are growing up to be dysfunctional adults resulting in a more dysfunctional society. And that dysfunctional society provides an environment that makes it more and difficult to raise honest, responsible, well-adjusted children. It’s a vicious, ugly cycle. Messing around with the definition of marriage will not correct these problems; it will only make things worse.

Kevin J. Kirkham
Salt Lake City, UT

How sad...on so many well known levels too. When will we ever learn?

TOO
Sanpete, UT

I am a member of the LDS church, and I support my Prophet. Gay marriage will not affect my own marriage to my wife, and it will not affect my personal life in the least. It is to me, immoral and unnatural, and that is why I am against it. Just like I am against pornography...it is a person's right to look at it, but it is immoral and destroys moral character of individuals.

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

Atl: So, we are about to depart on another great social experiment. Do you recall the last one? It was no fault divorce. At the time, it was believed that this would be in the best interest of all parties involved. We now have lots of data that demonstrates this great social experiment reeked greater havoc to our social fabric than any other element in the past century. The problem is that even though we know how disastrous no-fault divorce is, we can't go back. We can't correct the stupidity we brought upon ourselves.

What evidence do we have that gay marriage is good or bad for society? Very little on other side of the question. What happens though if, 40 years down the road we realize that -- just like no-fault divorce -- legislating gay marriage was as damaging as our previous great social experiment? It is a sure bet that we will not be able to fix the error.

UteMiguel
Go Utes, CA

@atl134,
Prop 8 keeps losing in court because it has been before the most liberal judges in the land. We'll see what the Supreme Court thinks.

NT
SomewhereIn, UT

@atl134

Sounds like you are prepared to take on the attorneys who filed the brief. Good luck with that!

Claudio
Springville, Ut

Re: metamoracoug

"What happens though if, 40 years down the road we realize that -- just like no-fault divorce -- legislating gay marriage was as damaging as our previous great social experiment? It is a sure bet that we will not be able to fix the error."

Fear of making a mistake isn't a good reason to not do something. If Americans followed that, we would still have slavery, women would still be second-class citizens, and ultimately, our country wouldn't exist. All decisions come with risk.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but your reasoning made me shake my head.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

If it is found that the people of California don't have the right to determine what is in their own constitution, something is seriously wrong.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

My comment must have been published and quickly pulled because my observation, though not offensive, was astute. And yes, Mr. Hotchkiss, I know what a Hutterite is. It's how I was raised. I respect others and what they stand for, unless they try to make it what I stand for. Then, they'd better bring more to the table than this.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@metamoracoug
"Do you recall the last one? It was no fault divorce."

I don't see why that is relevant since these are two different issues but if you want to claim it's valid then I would note another "social experiment" three years before no fault divorce when we ended interracial marriage bans which I'm pretty sure we can agree was a good thing.

"What evidence do we have that gay marriage is good or bad for society?"

Massachusetts sure seems to be doing just fine. Still has the lowest divorce rate in the nation even half a dozen years later.

@UteMiguel
"Prop 8 keeps losing in court because it has been before the most liberal judges in the land."

Care to tell me which Presidents appointed those 4 judges?

@NT
"Sounds like you are prepared to take on the attorneys who filed the brief."

At least I'm 0-0 in gay marriage cases, they're 0-2.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:Hutterite

Yes, sometimes it is difficult to get a comment past the censors, even though it doesn't appear to violate their stated policies.
They need to add "astuteness" to their list of violations.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

"What evidence do we have that gay marriage is good or bad for society?"

'After 5 Years of Legal Gay Marriage, Massachusetts still has the lowest state divorce rate...' - Bruce Wilson - AlterNet - 08/24/09

Line:
'Massachusetts retains the national title as the lowest divorce rate state, and the MA divorce rate is about where the US divorce rate was in 1940, prior to the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor.'

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

**’Prop 8 declared UNCONSTITUTIONAL by 9th circuit court’ – by Michael De Groote – Deseret News – 02/07/12

‘"Proposition 8 served no purpose, and had no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California," the Ninth Circuit said in its ruling on appeal in the case of Perry v. Brown.

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