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Published: Saturday, Feb. 2 2013 1:30 a.m. MST

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r0cky74
Erda, UT

Salt Lake City...Wake up! You have a police chief who is wanting to put a crack in the 2nd Amendment. It is time for him to go. We live in a world full of men who wish to exercise power over us and take away our freedoms. This is a very real threat that must not be allowed to take hold. Once the Amendment becomes cracked and limits are placed upon us, this opens the door to us eventually losing our rights to defend ourselves. That is the ultimate goal here despite what your chief is telling you. It would be nice to live in the world that many of my fellow democrats believe in, but we don't...period...end of story.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

More people died in Chicago last year than people in the Middle East,killed with hand guns not assault rifles. every security person till carry a hand gun not assault riffles. the easiest way to discredit some is to be called crazy or senile. Even if their not. Madam Albeit, who was Sec. of State under Pres. Clinton, once said that she can see that the mentality of the people will be that of a 5 year old. That's crazy, or maybe it just may be.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

"I am at the gun show now. There are a few scary people. Then I realized that the odds of anyone here interfering with my right to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness is much lower than with the folks in DC."

That's cool RBB, but did you notice the two really big signs at the entrance that say, in big letters, no loaded firearms. At least there used to be. I haven't been there in awhile.

Anyway, from the crossroads of the west website:

Q: Can I carry a loaded gun in the gun show? I have a Concealed Carry Permit.
A: We respectfully request that you do not bring any loaded firearm into the gun show. Safety is our Number One Priority, and a safe environment in the show can only be maintained if there are no loaded guns in the show.

And:

No loaded firearms and no loaded magazines are permitted in any Crossroads gun show. Your personal safety is our number one priority while you are at the show.

Haha. Haha. Your own people don't trust you guys with your guns. Your own people. Hahaha.

JohnSwapp
Fairview, UT

It never ceases to amaze me that people actually believe that guns are to blame for crime. The root problem is the education of our children. If everyone in the country was taught from an early age to have respect for human life the crime rate would not be where it is now.

The Skeptical Chymist
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

So many people are fixated on the "shall not be infringed" part of the Second Amendment, but forget the "well regulated" part. How can a Militia be well-regulated without regulations?

Even Justice Scalia, in his written opinion in the District of Columbia vs. Heller, states that regulations as to the type of weapon that is permitted, the places where it is permitted, and who is entitled to carry the weapon are legal.

James1105
BOAZ, AL

Bricha, you forgot all the knives, bats, hammers, etc. that also kill people. Just jump off the shelf and attack people.

What if all guns were confiscated - would the death rate be any less? Or, would people find other means to kill people?

What if all guns were confiscated - how would women or older children protect themselves from abusive husbands or fathers?

Artillery, bombs, rocket launchers/LAWs, and automatic weapons are already banned. Assault rifles were already banned, then they voted to un-ban them. They seem to have found a stopping place of restricting people's rights. There WERE (and still are) reasons that they stopped there.

What's special about "assault rifles"? Why target them? Because they are usually painted a different color, lighter weight, targeted more at sales to the military? As far as American assault rifles, they generally are more expensive than foreign assault rifles.

Why do I have one assault rifle? Because it was semi-automatic, which is convenient/nice to have when hunting, and because it was FAR CHEAPER than american made semi-automatic guns. In other words, I bought my SKS "assault rifle" for $79 (used) from a dealer vs. $400 for American semi-auto.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Easier to sell to mentally ill people if no checks. Paranoid people buy more guns and ammo.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Guns cost money. Ammo costs money. In combination they cost lives. This is because they are designed for one thing: to kill.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

"Bricha, you forgot all the knives, bats, hammers, etc. that also kill people. Just jump off the shelf and attack people"

James, each year a number of children, and adults, are accidentally shot and injured or killed with guns. Can you please tell us how many children accidentally club themselves to death with a bat each year? Whether or not it just jumped off the shelf. I'll wait.

bricha
lehi, ut

Mark lets talk about real numbers here, on average between 500 - 1000 people die in accidental gun deaths per year. It is estimated (according to Wiki Answers) that there are about 200 million privately owned guns in the US. That means of all guns there is a .0005% chance per year that any gun will accidentally kill someone(that is using the 1000 accidental gun deaths per year).

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

Outstanding bricha, real numbers. Sweet. And from wiki answers no less. But what I asked about was the number of children that are accidentally beat to death by bats. Were you able to find that number? I'll wait some more.

But so 500 to 1000 people are killed each year in accidental deaths, eh? That's some pretty low percentage you cite there. Not a bad collateral damage is it? 500-1000 statistics. But you know what's funny? I've had two reletives killed in accidental gun shootings. (In neither of the accidents were the guns in their hands, by the way). What are the odds? Funny stuff. You think I'd hit the lottery with those odds by now. You want to know what else is funny? I've had guns pulled on me. My son has been robbed at gun point. On a safe street. I know numerous people that have commited suicide with a gun. And no I don't live in a bad area. What are the odds?

Do you count those as real numbers?

wazzup
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Biden's comments coincide with Pelosi's. Lets pass a bill now and read and worry about the details later. Really?

I find it dispicable that liberals and Dems claim that if a new law saved but 1 child we should do it. Do they feel the same about abortion and pornography? Didn't think so.

I-am-I
South Jordan, UT

I think he makes a very good point assuming his statistics are correct. Legislating more laws and then not enforcing them does nothing. Maybe he has a financial stake in his opinion but by no means is his opinion unreasonable. Truthfully I do not think we have a gun violence problem in this country. Sadly tragedies happen. No law will ever stop that. Go to the FBI's website and find the number of violent crimes in the US. Then look at the number of violent crimes that involved a fire arm. Then take that number and divide it by what the 2010 Census tells you is the population of the United states. You will certainly get something less that half a percent and maybe something less than a half of a quarter of a percent. This is the likelihood of you getting shot in the next year and if you don't live in New York, Chicago, or Las Angeles (cities run largely by democrats mind you)your likelihood of getting shot gets a lot smaller. Guns aren't the problem.

Global Warner
Provo, UT

I’m astounded at the fear and paranoia from right wingers. We need brave patriots to stand up for rational ideas that protect people, not gun “rights.” Most gun lovers have no understanding of constitutional law. Thank goodness for leaders who have common sense and seek what’s best for the people. I’m glad we have a rational police chief in SLC who sees the downsides to loose gun laws. We clearly need a background checks on every wanna-be gun buyer. Obviously, we also need to downsize magazine clips to a reasonable size, as well. We should also keep weapons out of churches, schools, and businesses. Let’s call out the NRA for what it really is, a self-interested lobby that only seeks money and political power to prop up its weakening hand. As for gun shows, manufacturers, and dealers, they are driven by greed at whatever the cost. While they demonstrate their fake expressions of sorrow after every mass killing, their acting skills on TV screens show the reality beneath the facade. They later gloat on their way to the bank as gun sales go higher. Let’s be rational. We must counter this great evil!

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