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25 years after infamous standoff, Addam Swapp may soon be released from prison

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  • SpikeMike Denver, CO
    Feb. 12, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    To: John Swapp, it will happen brother, just be patient. Addam will do the right thing and the State of Utah will do the right thing. It is time for this to settle out, none of us can change the past, only the future matters.

  • SpikeMike Denver, CO
    Feb. 11, 2013 2:04 p.m.

    Addam should be released. Most of you do not know him. I do know him. He has changed and even Mrs. House has forgiven him. Ask yourself, what would Christ think and do? All of you so-called Christians need to remember that forgiveness is one of the primary teachings of Christ. So how can you call yourself a Christian if you cannot forgive? It is entirely hypocritical to do otherwise.

    The man has served over 25 years for events he set in motion, directly and indirectly. He has paid the price. He has been a model prisoner and I would expect him to be a model citizen once he is released. Again, knowing him, his family, and other friends, I could not expect anything less from him. One ting I can tell you is that he is a man of his word, unlike many of the trolls who espouse opinions on here that truly know nothing about the entire case and what led to it.

  • Jeremy494 Salt Lake, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 10:18 a.m.

    I never knew the guy but I've followed the story and I think he was a very confused man that thought he was in the right. He had some truly messed up beliefs that were wrong but he seems to know that now.

    The result of Adams bad choices lead to the death of a police officer. Adam didn't kill Lt. House and never intended for him to be killed but it happened. So of course Adam Needed to be punished for these things and he was. But any Christian knows that those who repent will be forgiven and I believe that the man has repented.

    We all make bad choices. In my youth my reckless driving could have resulted in a death but luckily it never caused any harm. I'm not saying that what Adam did is comparable to reckless driving but I'm saying "he who is without sin cast the first stone". Worry about the beam in your own eye and let this man move past his sin. His heart is in the right place now; he wants to make things right and he should be allowed that chance.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 3, 2013 3:24 p.m.

    How delusional some people are to think this was about homeschooling, John Swapp. It is about a person that set of explosives in a church and then barricaded himself inside a house and would not respond to police orders.

    I don't know what it is with some people that think they are above the law. Where do they get this idea? Nobody is above the law, not even little Adam Swapp. When the cops have a warrant, when the cops give you an order, you have to comply. Everyone has to. Everyone has to follow the law. Just because you fundemetilsts think you are above the law, your not. We don't get to pick and choose. You have four options if you don't agree with the law: do nothing; break the law and suffer the consequences; attempt to change the law; or leave the country. No one forces you to stay here.

    But in case you can't figure it out, John Swapp, it is always going to be illegal to try to blow up a church, and not follow police officers lawful orders.

  • downunder south jordan, UT
    Feb. 3, 2013 2:52 p.m.

    The whole problem was not with the home schooling but with John Singer trying to impose his outlandish beliefs on the whole community.

  • Eliyahu Pleasant Grove, UT
    Feb. 3, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    Twenty-five years in prison is a long time for anyone behind bars. We don't know what has gone on in his life during that time or how he has changed. (Note: Prison changes everyone. The only question is whether the change is for good or evil.) For those of us whose religious beliefs include the idea that men can repent and change them selves, being forgiven in the process, we would do well to remember that we have little information about him and how he has changed other than a couple paragraphs in a news story. The Board of Pardons isn't given to letting people out of prison on a whim, and has access to a lot more information than we do, including his complete prison record and the people who have supervised and worked with him. Bottom line: Should he be released? I have no idea at all, but will defer to the judgment of those in a position to make such a decision.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 3, 2013 8:35 a.m.

    If schooling was the complete issue and Adam Swapp brought Utah into the homeschooling business then that isn't publicized much in the alternative schooling businesses. Maybe the educational professional found that the Swapps and Singers weren't really homeschooling their children in a way that would lead their children to a real education. Education, such as public, would help them in their lives, such as reading, writing, arithmetic, social behavior, seeing that there is more to life then just in the potential biased world they lived in. States are to ensure there is safety and look after the welfare of children in our state. Children are defenseless and parents and the state are helping them get to be on their own or as much as possible.

    Legislators and Governors don't necessarily help with their comments toward public education in a state filled with administrators and teachers that have very high abilities, education and a desire to help students with parent's help to a higher level. Unfortunately, there are a few inappropriate teachers that make the headlines.

    We just need to be more supportive to keep our education more mainstream and not diverted as this situation was.

  • cavetroll SANDY, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 10:40 p.m.

    @JohnSwapp,

    The siege was a result of Addam's decision to blow up a church. He hasn't served 25+ years as a result of a stray bullet that killed an officer. He served 10 years for blowing up the church. He will only serve 15 years max for the death of Lt. House.

  • tigger AMERICAN FORK, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 7:44 p.m.

    IMO John Swapp's comments are not helping Addam's case.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Feb. 2, 2013 7:32 p.m.

    Second chances come in heaven. Maybe
    But not here on the earth.

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Feb. 2, 2013 6:28 p.m.

    I know people that remember John Singer said he had some peculiarities. I don't think homeschooling and polygamy cost him his life. Tragic for what he went through. Most polygamists I think are off. DAvid Koresh and Warren Jeffs did much harm to people in compound using religion.

    However if they are not harming anyone I would say leave them alone. HOmeschooling may have been permitted when Singer lost his life. However even homeschool people have to answer people in the department of education to see the kids are up to par with people who go to school. That may be why people from State were there. Police never want to take a human life so I am sure more than seeing that his kids were taught right caused what happened.

    As for standoff later I was in grade school when it happened. Bombing a church and not allowing someone to see his kids grow up that is crime and him getting out not fair to his victims who lost someone close to them. Whoever is responsible for death shouldn't be let out.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 4:59 p.m.

    This isn't "news" it's speculation.

  • snowman Provo, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    Everyone has the right to their own religious beliefs. What you people dont underwtand is that John Singer was murdered. He was shot in the back.

  • citygrrl SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 1:35 p.m.

    Keep in mind that John Singer died one year after another religious fanatic convinced his wife and children to jump off a hotel in downtown SLC. A sense of trying to stem the harm that non-mainstream parents can do to their spouses and children permeated law enforcement and the judiciary, and that horrible event was fresh in everyone's minds.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 1:07 p.m.

    Oneoldman; all I can do is parrot a lot of other comments i see on these boards at different times: documentation, documentation, documentation.

  • JohnSwapp Fairview, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 11:31 a.m.

    To Zadruga Guy. You can homeschool your kids without harrasment from the state of Utah because of the stand that John Singer made.

  • JohnSwapp Fairview, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 11:22 a.m.

    To Beverly. Addam Swapp did not kill fred house. Timothy Singer was charged with killing Fred house when he was shooting at the attack dogs sent after Addam.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Feb. 2, 2013 10:45 a.m.

    This was at a time when polygamists were viewed by most, through the same glass as mainstream Mormons (just a tiny bit more extreme). John Singer was an embarrassment. Anyone who lived through this knew that the Singers were being trapped in their home over home schooling and the Highway Patrol were pushed to act. Bottom line, the Singers were a strange family who made the mistake of getting noticed. The killing of John Singer was unnecessary.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    One old man
    Your statement is not only inapropriate it is a complete mis charachterization of the past and the present.

  • Zadruga Guy West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    I lived in Kamas during the time that John Singer homeschooled his kids. He came to our house several times to fix our tv (he was a television repairman) and sometimes brought his kids with him and a couple of times we went to his compound to drop off or pick up our tv. I certainly recall the education level and social skills of Singer's kids' differently than Nan does -- and I say that as a homeschooling parent myself. Singer brought most of his problems on himself through his fanatical beliefs.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 8:41 a.m.

    Nan,

    that's why the Swapps shot at federal agents?

    When Fred House can again see the light of day, then let Addam Swapp out of prison.

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 8:39 a.m.

    I believe in second chances.

  • Beverly Eden, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 7:11 a.m.

    He killed a Utah State law enforcement officer. Fred House's family will never enjoy a moment of Fred's warmth as a father or as a husband. Why should he be granted the warmth of his family when to ripped Fred away from the family he loved and protected. Fred was serving us, the citizens of Utah, when Addam Swapp was responsible for his death. He should never be given the opportunity to enjoy what he destroyed for others. Please keep him in prison.

  • KDave Moab, UT
    Feb. 2, 2013 6:35 a.m.

    The story doesn't mention that the whole Singer thing started over home schooling. How times have changed.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Feb. 2, 2013 1:31 a.m.

    They need to keep all these criminals in prison.

  • Nan BW ELder, CO
    Feb. 2, 2013 12:18 a.m.

    There is far more to this story can could be told in the newspaper. The Singer family, wherein the saga began, suffered extreme persecution for their beliefs and commitment to home school their children. At one point an agreement was made that a recognized education professional would evaluate the Singer family children. The professional's evaluation was that the children were being well educated at home, and that their social skills were excellent. However, the persecution continued and violence followed. I think Addam Swapp should be released so he has a chance to be a productive member of society.

  • Vandenberg Salt Lake, UT
    Feb. 1, 2013 7:16 p.m.

    What a blast from the past! Please keep him in there. No reason for him to see the light of day again.