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Published: Thursday, Jan. 31 2013 11:10 p.m. MST

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Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm impressed with his 4.0 grade point average. Keep up the good work J.O.

Riddles in the Dark
Olympus Cove, Utah

"It had Olsen thinking about stuff he didn’t necessarily want to while on his mission.

Several questions like — “What’s going to happen?” and “What am I going back to?” — were on his mind."

So it isn't just players who decide to transfer to BYU who think about life beyond their mission?

Of course, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's a given that if Jeremy had decided to transfer to BYU, all of the usual suspects would be castigating Jeremy for not being completely focused on his mission.

Anywho,

Congratulations Jeremy on serving a mission. I hope you enjoy your time at Utah.

Down under
Pullman, WA

E-mailing a recruit while on his mission?? Really?? Utah bloggers accused BYU for doing this and saying it wasn't right although it didn;t happen. And now we have a Utah coach admit to it. I guess it is only OK when a Utah coach does it.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

How dare a coach email his player while on a mission? It's only ok to email another school's player.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Down under, pretty sure there is no NCAA rule about a coach contacting his own players. Yes, a player who had already been enrolled and part of his program, not a recruit who hadn't yet signed anywhere, or who had previously signed with another school. Your insecurity is funny, though.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

StGtoSLC

"there is no NCAA rule about a coach contacting his own players"

True.

In Bylaw 13.1.1.3.2.1 of the NCAA handbook, it states: An institution shall not contact a student-athlete who has begun service on an official church mission without obtaining permission from the
institution from which the student-athlete withdrew prior to beginning his or her mission if the student-athlete signed a National Letter of Intent (NLI) and attended the institution (with which he or she signed the NLI) as a full-time student. ... If such a student-athlete has completed his or her official church mission and does not enroll full-time in a collegiate institution within one calendar year of completion of the mission, an institution may contact the student-athlete without obtaining permission from the first institution.

You'll notice that the NCAA rule doesn't say anything about a player not being allowed to contact another institution while he's still on his mission.

Since missionaries can now leave on missions straight out of high school, before ever enrolling, the rule may have to be re-written, because technically, the missionary wouldn't be withdrawing from any institution.

Lehi'i
Lehi, UT

Down Under, as others have already said, Olsen was not a recruit, he had already signed an LOI and was already part of Utah's program. The difference is subtle, but significant and I find it funny that the rule cited by Uteanymous exists. Looks like a rule to address what BYU has been doing for years. Nice work Cougs!

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Lehi'i

Actually, the rule was written because of Riley Nelson AND Ben Olsen - BYU lost one and gained one.

The difference being, UCLA contacted Olsen constantly during his mission without getting Ben's or anybody else's permission. BYU was told that Riley was interested in transferring to BYU, so BYU contacted Riley's parents and mission president to get permission from them before they contacted Riley.

Missionaries have been changing their minds, contacting schools, and deciding to transfer to other schools for years. It's not something "BYU has been doing" for years, it's something missionaries have been doing for years.

The NCAA simply wrote the rule to prevent missionaries from receiving unsolicited recruiting contacts.

The rule, as written, doesn't look like it will apply to missionaries leaving right after high school since both conditions "signed a National Letter of Intent (NLI) AND attended the institution (with which he or she signed the NLI) as a full-time student" won't have been met.

Carnak
Salt Lake City, UT

Not unusual for coaches to contact their players during missions. I had a son who played a D-1 sport and his coach e mailed him while he was on his mission about once a month. The problem arises when schools contact missionaries who prior to the mission attended a different school and the intent of the school making the contact is to persuade the missionary to switch schools after his/her return from service.

U 90
Corona, CA

@Ernest T Bass

Well said

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Amazing that the gist of this article isn't being addressed here, but rather spin/tangenting-off into irrelevancy....I realize this course of discussion was initiated by a byu-fan, but we UTES shouldn't feed him.

JO has already accomplished much in his young life and has the type of mindset reflecting mental-toughness which is paramount to completing our recently begun rebuilding-process....Outstanding article right here.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I think it's great that the freshman bigs are the ones the team is building around for the future. Loveridge is already a big time player in the Pac-12, and J.O. is starting to get into playing shape and increase his meaningful minutes. These guys, along with fellow frosh Brandon Taylor and Justin Seymour, will be THE guys leading the team in the next couple years, and I think there's a lot of potential in all of them, collectively and individually. Good work, J.O.!

ET Bass
Idaho Falls, ID

BYU 's rm averaging 20 plus per game. Utah's averaging 2 per game. Looks like BYU knows how to handle rms better to me.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

"BYU 's rm averaging 20 plus per game. Utah's averaging 2 per game. Looks like BYU knows how to handle rms better to me."

The following from the article must've been overlooked, not to mention what he accomplished today against CU----

----The feeling is mutual. Krystkowiak noted that Olsen is making strides while regaining his pre-mission conditioning. Hip surgery and a bulging disc in his back put Olsen behind the curve, as did adjusting to a new system and coaching staff.

Opportunities have accompanied the progress. The recent decision to give sophomore center Dallin Bachynski a break from “active competition” led to Olsen logging 21 minutes last Sunday against Stanford. He finished with five points and four rebounds.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

ET Bass, he's also averaging over five times as many turnovers per game compared to Olsen. See how you can manipulate stats with guys at different positions with vast differences in minutes? Stay classy.

Rae M.
Bountiful , UT

It is interesting to read the article and then comments. Some show real class besides clarifying. Thanks for those.

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