It is interesting to read the article and then comments. Some show real class
besides clarifying. Thanks for those.
ET Bass, he's also averaging over five times as many turnovers per game
compared to Olsen. See how you can manipulate stats with guys at different
positions with vast differences in minutes? Stay classy.
"BYU 's rm averaging 20 plus per game. Utah's averaging 2 per
game. Looks like BYU knows how to handle rms better to me."The
following from the article must've been overlooked, not to mention what he
accomplished today against CU--------The feeling is mutual.
Krystkowiak noted that Olsen is making strides while regaining his pre-mission
conditioning. Hip surgery and a bulging disc in his back put Olsen behind the
curve, as did adjusting to a new system and coaching staff.Opportunities have accompanied the progress. The recent decision to give
sophomore center Dallin Bachynski a break from “active competition”
led to Olsen logging 21 minutes last Sunday against Stanford. He finished with
five points and four rebounds.
BYU 's rm averaging 20 plus per game. Utah's averaging 2 per game.
Looks like BYU knows how to handle rms better to me.
I think it's great that the freshman bigs are the ones the team is building
around for the future. Loveridge is already a big time player in the Pac-12, and
J.O. is starting to get into playing shape and increase his meaningful minutes.
These guys, along with fellow frosh Brandon Taylor and Justin Seymour, will be
THE guys leading the team in the next couple years, and I think there's a
lot of potential in all of them, collectively and individually. Good work, J.O.!
Amazing that the gist of this article isn't being addressed here, but
rather spin/tangenting-off into irrelevancy....I realize this course of
discussion was initiated by a byu-fan, but we UTES shouldn't feed him.JO has already accomplished much in his young life and has the type of
mindset reflecting mental-toughness which is paramount to completing our
recently begun rebuilding-process....Outstanding article right here.
@Ernest T BassWell said
Not unusual for coaches to contact their players during missions. I had a son
who played a D-1 sport and his coach e mailed him while he was on his mission
about once a month. The problem arises when schools contact missionaries who
prior to the mission attended a different school and the intent of the school
making the contact is to persuade the missionary to switch schools after his/her
return from service.
Lehi'iActually, the rule was written because of Riley Nelson
AND Ben Olsen - BYU lost one and gained one.The difference being,
UCLA contacted Olsen constantly during his mission without getting Ben's or
anybody else's permission. BYU was told that Riley was interested in
transferring to BYU, so BYU contacted Riley's parents and mission president
to get permission from them before they contacted Riley.Missionaries
have been changing their minds, contacting schools, and deciding to transfer to
other schools for years. It's not something "BYU has been doing"
for years, it's something missionaries have been doing for years.The NCAA simply wrote the rule to prevent missionaries from receiving
unsolicited recruiting contacts.The rule, as written, doesn't
look like it will apply to missionaries leaving right after high school since
both conditions "signed a National Letter of Intent (NLI) AND attended the
institution (with which he or she signed the NLI) as a full-time student"
won't have been met.
Down Under, as others have already said, Olsen was not a recruit, he had already
signed an LOI and was already part of Utah's program. The difference is
subtle, but significant and I find it funny that the rule cited by Uteanymous
exists. Looks like a rule to address what BYU has been doing for years. Nice
StGtoSLC"there is no NCAA rule about a coach contacting his own
players"True.In Bylaw 188.8.131.52.2.1 of the NCAA
handbook, it states: An institution shall not contact a student-athlete who has
begun service on an official church mission without obtaining permission from
the institution from which the student-athlete withdrew prior to beginning
his or her mission if the student-athlete signed a National Letter of Intent
(NLI) and attended the institution (with which he or she signed the NLI) as a
full-time student. ... If such a student-athlete has completed his or her
official church mission and does not enroll full-time in a collegiate
institution within one calendar year of completion of the mission, an
institution may contact the student-athlete without obtaining permission from
the first institution.You'll notice that the NCAA rule
doesn't say anything about a player not being allowed to contact another
institution while he's still on his mission.Since missionaries
can now leave on missions straight out of high school, before ever enrolling,
the rule may have to be re-written, because technically, the missionary
wouldn't be withdrawing from any institution.
Down under, pretty sure there is no NCAA rule about a coach contacting his own
players. Yes, a player who had already been enrolled and part of his program,
not a recruit who hadn't yet signed anywhere, or who had previously signed
with another school. Your insecurity is funny, though.
How dare a coach email his player while on a mission? It's only ok to email
another school's player.
E-mailing a recruit while on his mission?? Really?? Utah bloggers accused BYU
for doing this and saying it wasn't right although it didn;t happen. And
now we have a Utah coach admit to it. I guess it is only OK when a Utah coach
"It had Olsen thinking about stuff he didn’t necessarily want to while
on his mission.Several questions like — “What’s
going to happen?” and “What am I going back to?” — were
on his mind."So it isn't just players who decide to
transfer to BYU who think about life beyond their mission?Of course,
there's nothing wrong with that, but it's a given that if Jeremy had
decided to transfer to BYU, all of the usual suspects would be castigating
Jeremy for not being completely focused on his mission.Anywho, Congratulations Jeremy on serving a mission. I hope you enjoy your time
I'm impressed with his 4.0 grade point average. Keep up the good work J.O.