Holy Moly!!! I have not seen this many comments on any Jazz article in a long
time!!! I love it. The goal seems to be the same every year ; give the veterans
the majority of the minutes because they can play semi competitive ball, just
good enough to keep the seats full. If you played young players, you would have
a learning curve (more losses, missed playoffs, empty seats).I would
rather see a losing team full of young players, as long as there was progress,
instead of the same ol same.
@ Tyler RayThere are a lot of high paid players coming off the bench.
AMARE STOUDAMIRE is the highest paid Knick and 2nd highest paid in the NBA but
even after coming back from injury the Knicks still bring him off the bench. The
Lakers are finally getting better but they realized they are better with GASOL,
the 6th highest paid player in the league coming off the bench. GINOBLI for the
Spurs has come off the bench for years and is the 23rd highest paid player in
the league.Another thing that happens on some teams is that coaches
discover young talent making small salaries that earn starting roles and
minutes. You might remember how Wes Mathews was not drafted by anyone but
because he played hard coach Sloan ended up starting him later in the season,
then management let him get away because he was a free agent at the end of the
year. Too bad young talent on this Jazz team doesn't get that same
@American Vet,I understand your point but this league is political.
Name one team with the highest paid player coming off the bench! It doesn't
happen. I agree that Favors and Kanter deserve the minutes but it wont happen
until Jefferson is off the team. So all we can do is hope.
This is just a BAD TEAM!!! They have No Talent!!! When will Jazz Fans Wakeup!!!
@ Millsap fanYou say "Jefferson is the highest paid player on the team
and as a general rule must start". So your argument is that the teams should
always start the highest paid players? Oh my goodness, where do you come up with
that logic? The best players, and especially young improving players need the
playing time, not the guys with the fattest wallets. Hayward and Favors are in
the final year of their rookie contracts and if the Jazz want to resign them
they will have to pay up or they will be gone next year. Kanter and Burks will
be in the same position after next year. If the Jazz resign Millsap and AJ ( and
Marvin Williams also in his final year), how can they afford to resign these
young guys.? They can't! The Jazz need to start making a commitment to the
future but Corbin just plugs along like everything is okie dokie. Some tough
decisions need to be made before we end up losing the best chance we have to get
better. Corbin has the team stuck in the mud IMO.
Players come and go.Coaches come and go.Management stays the
same.Results are the same: perennial mediocrity.You tell me
where the blame lies . . .
@American VetMarvin Williams was signed because his length lends
himself to perimeter defense. I would think if you sign a guy to play that role,
you should actually play him in that role. Of course he has struggled, but
I'm betting coach Corbin wants to see what he has before the final rotation
to make playoffs and beyond. Milsap ( I love this guy) struggles
against length in big games, we need multiple outside threats. Williams can hit
the 3 along with Foye. Insert Williams back into the starting line up and the
Whining subsides. There.
^^^Some stats to back up my case I researched.-All Jefferson has
went to the line 8 times the last 5 games. Derrick Favors has went to the line
21 times.-Al Jefferson has scored a total of 72 points the last 5 games,
Derrick Favors has scored 63. -Al Jefferson has taken 79 shots the last 5
games, Derrick Favors has taken 42. -Jefferson has 40 more minutes on the
court, Al 31 mpg Favors 23-Jefferson has only 13 more rebounds-Same
amount of blocks-Favors is hitting 57% Al 42%
I have to lend my support to those that are calling for Corbin's job. I
could support him if it wasn't for his obvious lack of defensive emphasis.
125 points just cannot happen if you're looking to become a good team, it
is flat out inexcuseable. I agree that players can have off nights and miss a
lot of shots, and when multiple players have off nights you're in trouble,
but there is NO excuse for not playing defense. I also agree that it is up to
the players to put forth the effort but I believe that it is solely the
reponsibility of the coach to emphasize defense and remove players that refuse
to play defense (Al I'm looking at you). This is a totally
uninspired, listless, group that seems to have no drive and desire on the
defensive end and that, in my opinion, is ALL Corbin's fault.
Milsap and Jefferson have been in the same system for how many years now? Have
we shown any improvement what so ever? I think we have gotten worse while the
talent and depth has gotten better yet Corbin insist on giving them minutes. I
don't get that logic. We're basically the same team as last year, but
Hayward is improved, Kanter has improved, Favors has improved, and Burks has
improved, and sprinkle in a Demarre Carrol who has developed a jump shot.Now I understand these guys still are making young guy mistakes, but
that is only because they are not playing. It's impossible to magically
get in tune and find yourself coming off the bench. We insist on playing the
same guys that are past their prime, and not get any better. We insist on
losing by 45 points that way. We insist on wasting four lottery picks for
mediocrity and Al Jefferson who is the softest player in NBA history. All you saying be nice to Corbin, but he is the one making these decisions.
These decisions hadusonalosing streak not too long ago, and has since reared
it'shead up in 2 out of the last threegames.
NBA coaches are paid $millions per year. In return, management and fans expect
their coach to bring out the best in his players... both individually and as a
team. Some consistency is not too much to ask for that kind of pay, either. What
the Jazz seem to lack more than anything lately is consistency. They've
shown they are talented. They can play like world-beaters one night, but like a
high school team a few nights later. It's the coach's job to keep his
team at least somewhat consistent. The Jazz currently are not. Not at all! It
truly is hard to know what to expect when you buy a ticket to a Jazz game.
It's impossible to feel like you got your money's worth of
entertainment after watching a game like last night's debacle. For
the life of me, I can not figure out why the Jazz front office decided to give
Corbin a contract extension before proving himself as a head coach. He still has
not. Not by a long shot. He might be a nice guy, but that's not good enough
in his line of work.
LOL Everyone continues to think Favors would be a star ifhe played 35+ minutes a
game. Favors will be good but never be a star great defensively, but below
average offensively. Sorry he needs to develope a midrange game before he can be
declared a star. Utan's believe everything local sports show talk show
hosts tell them. If Favors plays over 30 minutes a game every game Jazz
don't come close to making playoffs.
Jefferson has to go. The wave and shake your head at the pick and roll has cost
far to many games for this team. And Kevin Mchale letting his guys shoot threes
when they are up by forty points in the fourth is a little like LaVel Edwards
letting his team throw bombs in the fourth when up by fifty.
@VeracityYeah go get Lone Peak. They wouldn't cross mid court
the whole game. Gimme a break. What does playing with urgent icy mean anyway?
Take these petitions to Jazz Management with your feet folks. We have been bored
with this inconsistent play long enough. Changes have to be made. This is not
working out. Lets hear from Management about the future of this club. We deserve
@americanvet,There's so much about running a pro team
you're not taking into account. First, Jefferson is the highest paid player
on the team and as a general rule must start. Millsap has been seeing his
minutes go down and Favors minutes go up. It doesn't really matter who
starts there, it matters who finishes the game. Hayward is our sixth man and is
perfect in that role. Burks hasn't earned anything. Free Burks to a new
team. Williams is definitely mediocre, I'll agree with that. But honestly,
Corbin is managing minutes pretty well. It's up to Lindsey to make the
right trades now for this team to grow.
Solution...Utah should draft Lone Peak, they would have done alot better...at
least they play with urgent icy and are not paid millions.Also, I
understand there is a run on brown paper sacks to wear at the next game.
@ uncle Rico You ask us to name a coach to replace Corbin, I'll turn
the tables and ask you how he's doing a great job and "moving this team
forward"? The team snuck into the playoffs last year and if they"re
lucky they might get the 8th spot again this year only to be bounced out in the
first round. That's not moving anything forward. Corbin has top lottery
picks that are showing they have great potential but they are not getting the
minutes to develop as fast as they could. Explain to me why Marvin Williams
continues to start and gets starters minutes when Corbin has players on the
bench willing to give 100% every game. AJ and Sap are decent players but are in
the last year of their contract and will both demand inflated salaries next year
while the young guns are ready to increase their roles on the team but Corbin is
not allowing them greater roles. I'm not satisfied to stay where we are and
go over the salary cap with AJ and Millsap next year with hungry lottery picks
sitting on the bench.
@ Uncle RicoStan Van Gundy
Rockets vs. WNBA. Nice.
Whats this talk of removing Ty Corbin?You kidding me? Name another
coach better to replace him. He has done a great job and continues to move the
team forward. Anybody who has actually played a game knows this sort of things
happens. Good Grief folks, get a life!
Holy Smoke! There are no excuses in a 50 point loss. This should answer the
questions of whether or not to aim for the salary cap and whether to start
Favors and Kanter. You would then have plenty to go after a high visibility
point guard. It would appear that Corbin is now "on the clock".
@ B RussCorbin may not be the best coach, but he's certainly
not the worst. The Jazz did not cut, they did not run, they did not play with
one ounce of energy. Blame Corbin if you want, he shares some blame in it, but
the players have control over how hard they play and they mailed it in last
night.In the grand scheme of things, it's one game. It was
ugly, but no need to panic. We all know the Jazz are a 7th or 8th seed at best,
and probably a 9th or 10th at worst. The real question is what direction does
the front office want to go? Do they let the players play out their contracts
and have a ton of cap room in the off season and a chance to really change up
the roster around the young guys, or do they find a deal that works before the
trade deadline? I am with you in the sense that last night was unacceptable, and
from Corbin down to the 12th man on the bench everyone is accountable.
I realize Salt Lake City is a one trick pony when it comes to pro franchises,
but fans you don't have to put up with this, vote with your feet. The
formula seems to be pick up as many castoffs that at one point had a name or
might have been well known lottery picks, throw them together and hope to finish
8th in the west. You get trumped in the first round of the playoffs, everyone
says shucks wait til next year, we'll be real good. The high draft picks
have been wasted completely, yes even the Butler Boy. Tyrone seems to be a great
guy, but not all assistant coaches work out in the hot seat, a change
couldn't hurt. This one is extremely embarrassing, I wonder how many
college teams could play within 15 points of Hpuston.
I tend to agree with other comments Would Stan VanGundy be a better
option for us?at least he has finals experience and might attract a
free agent or two
Why do people think they know what goes on in the jazz locker room ands that
they are so much more knowledgeable than coach Corbin? He's doing well
with what he has. The jazz need to make some major changes to their players,
not coach. In my mind there are only four jazz players who should be off limits
to trades Favors, Kanter, Hayward, and Carroll.
Energy Solutions !! There is a solution, get a coach who can inspire this group,
and, our starters did not start tonight. We need a new starting lineup
badly...begin with trading our two lead men....and the coach. Millsap and Big Al
have peaked, maybe sometime back. Do your duty Jazz Management. Out there among
our readers solutions have been offered and we are in verse four of the song.
Get a new coach and rebuild the starting lineup. This game was so slow I fell
asleep during the first quarter and missed most of the mahem.
Well,I will say that every team will have a game or two where it's just not
their night and this was certainly true for the Jazz tonight. The team has been
playing better recently and hopefully they can get back on track. That said
however, I'm with B Russ and feel like coaching is a long term problem for
the Jazz. Players can have off nights like tonight but poor coaching has a
compounding effect and holds a team back from their potential. I think Corbin
is a good guy but I wonder what will it take for management to make a necessary
Corbin. What a joke. Who's brite idea was it to give this fellow an
extension? Haven't we seen enough of this already? Changes need to be made,