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Published: Monday, Jan. 28 2013 6:30 p.m. MST

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Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Just the Fiction

Who said anything about player awards? Per Royal Blue "Utah has NEVER had a single national individual award winner or national college football hall of fame player". Coach Whittingham is certainly an "individual". But let's talk about current individual awards, shall we? Star Lotuleiei is a 2012 first team all american. Funny, I don't see any BYU players on the first team? Thanks for your input Mr. Helper!

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

Spokane Ute

"Who said anything about player awards?"

The discussion was about developing players, not coaches.

Regardless, you missed the most salient point of Just the FAX's comments:

"If he's [Vaenuku] good enough to play in the NFL, it doesn't matter if he plays at podunk u, NFL scouts will find him."

You have absolutely no proof that playing for Utah will enhance Vaenuku's NFL chances any more than playing for BYU or anybody else.

East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Y's little brother: Vaenuku, you may want to reconsider. Players who had never donned a pair of shoulder pads before coming to the program, but were developed into a first-round draft pick by the program


Ansah would have been drafted playing at Weber State since he played ONLY one year at BYU:

"Entered his senior season with zero career starts and just 10 total tackles." "STRENGTHS: Rare combination of size, athleticism and natural power."

"#1 Draft Picks who have lead their team to only ONE playoff win in 8 Seasons"

That's a Ducky like comment, better luck next time. More legit comment would be:

#1 Draft Pick who lead is team to an NFC championship game after 7 years on an inept team with 4 different coaching staffs.

Similar to what Steve Young did his first 8 years. Who went from being a bust at Tampa Bay, to being benched for Steve Bono, to a Super Bowl MVP.

The awards you listed were for players developed under Edwards and Chow, Vaenuku might as well join Chow at Hawaii because the fact is Broncos and Co. do a better job of developing fireside talent than NFL talent.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

@Soloman Levi

Understood. I did take the comment some what out of context. Both schools have produced all americans, and NFL talent. Heck, the Seahawks have a starting guard from Weber State. Utah does have more players currently in the NFL though. I have beat this thread to death. Have a good evening Mr. Levi.....later!

Salt Lake City, UT


You're ignoring the fact that it was BYU coaches who saw in Ziggy the potential to play football; it was Bronco who gave him a chance to be on the team; and it was BYU coaches who carefully shepherded Ziggy through the fundamentals and intricacies of the game until he was ready to step onto the field. It's an undeniable fact, that without BYU, Ziggy would not be playing in the NFL next season.


@ Yning little brother

"Vaenuku, you may want to reconsider because we had that one good qb a long time ago who wasn't nearly as good as Alex Smith in the pros and then we have this other player who is going to the NFL this year.. blah blah blah"

Not that BYU was in his final two choices, but to humor the Yners: if we set aside pac 12 affiliation, and which program is clearly producing more NFL talent, he's probably just looking at which team has dominated the other for the past decade (3 in a row, 8 out of the last 11). It's why you're obsessed with us and desperately spinning facts on articles about recruits who have already chosen our program over yours :)

West Jordan, Utah

I believe most BYU fans love BYU for the morals and principles it represents. The smaller percentage of BYU fans who act in opposition to what BYU stands for in order to proclaim their fandom and everyone else's folly are the ones who hurt BYU's reputation and missionary aspirations.

When the bird hunters (so to speak) of the world place such emphasis on pointing out Ute hypocrisy, they ironically often forget the hypocrisy of representing BYU outside of the parameters that the church and most BYU fans positively represent.

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