Comments about ‘Boy Scouts of America to vote on lifting ban of gay Scouts and leaders’

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Published: Monday, Jan. 28 2013 4:30 p.m. MST

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jasonhyer
Roy, UT

As I've thought about the implications of this, even though they would allow local units to decide how to act, it seems that each council would have "gay" troops or troops that allow gay leaders or members. When I donate to Friends of Scouting each year, I am donating to my local council who then uses that money to support troops in the council.

Therefore if Gays are admitted to Boy Scouts, when I donate to Friends of Scouting, I am supporting gay troops and members in my local council.

I'll have to think long and hard about donating to Friends of Scouting if this change happens.

"On my honor, I will do my best ... to be morally straight..."

dustman
Nampa, ID

@Trenton Spears:

You can hold a temple recommend as long as you do not act on homosexual urges. Just like a person who was an alcoholic for years who sobers up, but 10 years down the road still has to fight his cravings, as long as he does not act on those cravings, there's nothing holding him back from having a temple recommend.

Its like all the young men and women who want to go on a mission. They need a temple recommend. I'm sure most of those young people have heterosexual urges, but as long as they are in control of those urges, you can hold a temple recommend.

Hamath
Omaha, NE

I suspect that the BSA national organization has already consulted with some of the major organizations prior to announcing this decision. Many posts are questioning whether the Catholic or LDS or other groups will stop affiliating with the BSA. The big ones won't I suspect because they have likely been at least consulted. Even if they haven't, major leaders of the major organizations are also on the Executive board for scouts and so there is some representation of these larger organizations even if only through individuals.

Bottom line, if it happens, I doubt it will have much of an impact.

LDSMOM
Perris, CA

How and when will we all vote? Thanks!

Jade2soon
Jeffersonville, IN

I've read many of the comments, and NONE seems to address the root issue: Adult leader's sexual actions or thoughts should never be allowed to be "outed" while the adult is leading youth activities -- such matters just don't belong there! While BSA fought hard under the right of association to allow only non-homosexual leaders, even as we speak it would be out of line with BSA's youth policy to have a heterosexual openly discussing their sexual details. Doesn't matter what the adult's sexual appetite is, there is no right basis to be "out" unless the adult is promoting some ulterior motive within their role in BSA. To this end, many here commented there are surely gay leaders now, but the difference is those leaders cannot, must not, and are never allowed to identify or "promote" their sexual beliefs. (BSA does not have anti-gay police forces to spy on people or sift out details of their personal lives... if you're not open/active/out, there's no reason for them to question it!)

Matt Conley
Ventura, CA

The LGBT movement is just that, a movement to change society. Organizations like InterPride list as one of their objectives, to seek equality. Most will sympathize with that when that idea is applied to insurance, or life/death decisions, etc., but that's not the total of the movement's goal. It's about acceptance. Acceptance of a lifestyle that God has called sin. If the Church accepted the BSA's proposed change, it would by necessity be allowing the movement of the gay lifestyle to advance in it's goal of acceptance. And thereby be in contradiction to God.

junkgeek
Agua Dulce, TX

The "morally straight" reference was never about sexuality.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

If you believe in freedom then you support letting homosexuals into the BSA

If you support freedom for only people who are just like you; well that's fascism.....

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

It would be a good thing for the LDS church to free the boy scouts from their control. They could start their own organization instead of taking over another.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Considering how much coverage Gay rights command from nagative driven readers, someone from another planet would wonder if gays were some form of fountain of youth and made the world go round all wrapped into one. I think I'll go for a walk!

yoshi
South Jordan, UT

@Coug420

Consider scouts who are not part of an LDS troop—whose leaders do not hold temple recommends. You mentioned measures that are already in place to protect scouts; however, I highly doubt parents would feel comfortable enough to send their scouts on an overnighter where homosexual men (who openly admit they are sexually attracted to men) will be present. Parents of scouting are not likely to compromise the welfare of their scouts just so leaders can have equal rights. Some commenters on this site have recognized that sending their scout on an overnighter with self-declared gay leaders is the same as sending their daughter on an overnighter with heterosexual men.

This opinion is not homophobic. It’s not religious. It just makes biological sense. Perhaps it would be best to combine Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts altogether to satisfy the demands for equality.

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