Comments about ‘Boy Scouts of America to vote on lifting ban of gay Scouts and leaders’

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Published: Monday, Jan. 28 2013 4:30 p.m. MST

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Mountanman
Hayden, ID

If this happens, goodbye to the BSA!

SoCal Roger
Costa Mesa, CA

My guess is that if the BSA votes to admit gay Scout and gay Scout leaders, that a good number of the sponsoring institutions will withdraw support of BSA.

I wonder how Baden-Powell and W. D. Boyce would vote on this issue?

firefly
Salt Lake City, UT

Thanks, Obama!

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

I am an Eagle Scout.
I may resign that honor if that happens.

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

If this happens, goodbye to the lds church even doing scout camps with non-lds troops.
And I have no issues with gays.
But this is the wrong crowd to push the gay agenda into.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

As a life long scout, I welcome the inclusion of ALL boys.

I feel sorry for those who believe that homosexuals include anymore pedophiles than the heterosexual population.

Sexual orientation is not taught anyway.

middleclassmom
South Jordan, UT

Nothing against gays, but this makes as much sense as having women in the BSA. As a woman, I would think it would inappropriate to go camping with men and boys for obvious reasons. Why would it be any different for people who are attracted to men and/or boys?

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

How many school teachers are gay?

Why does it matter if a boy scout leader is gay?

esodije
ALBUQUERQUE, NM

It probably was only a matter of time, given the socio-legal pressure the BSA was having to withstand from the Left and the media; however, when an organization changes too quickly, too fast, it can easily "evolve" itself right out of existence. So, the sponsoring entity doesn't have to accept practicing homosexuals? Big deal--it basically means that troop isn't going to scout camp or participating in other district/council/national activities. What's the point in being part of a national organization if you constantly have to self-segregate?

whatnext
Clearfield, Utah

I think if they allow boys that are gay to participate in scouting would not be a problem for the church or for the parents of the boys who are not. The reason I say this is we are taught to love and respect everyone and this would be a good way for the church to show we care and except everyone. But when it comes to allowing a person who is gay to become a leader in a troop the church may draw the line there. In a position of leadership that individual could influnce these young minds to take a direction in thier life that they or their parents may not neccassarily agree with or take part in.

liberate
Sandy, UT

This should be two separate issues. How can you justify not allowing gay scouts to participate and still claim that you are looking out for the best interests of those individuals. Discriminating based on sexual preference only results in those who are gay hiding that they are gay and pushing what many perceive to be a problem (being gay) into the future. It's analogous to a bishop telling a young man that he should go home, pretend he's not gay, and forget that they ever had the conversation.

Gay leaders is another matter and deserves some debate, although I also support this action with respect to leaders.

I'm an Eagle Scout but have not donated to scouts based on this discrimination. If they change the policy, I will begin donating again.

md
Cache, UT

Wow. Eagle scouts will mean much less to me now.

Down under
Pullman, WA

Agree with mountainman. I dropped my annual donations to the BSA several years ago because I think they have already lost their way.

Regardless of what the LDS Church does, most of the donations come from its members through the annual drive and not the Church itself. I see THOSE donations drying up if the BSA lifts the ban. It would be devastating to the BSA and it will have to totally change its mission.

I doubt the LDS Church will abandon the BSA as the ties are too strong and the Church is making an effort to reach out to the gay population in a positive and understanding way. Time will tell however. This will be he most important decision the BSA board will ever make in its history. I hope they don't blow it.

Anon123
LAS VEGAS, NV

I don't normally post, but the above comments seem a little extreme. The LDS Church already allows gay members, I doubt that it would pull its support of BSA over the issue. Any gay youth would just be held to the same standard as straight youth - no premarital sex.

Some sponsoring institutions will pull support, others may support a more tolerant organization. The BSA proposal, which would still allow control at a local level, seems pretty benign.

Justmythoughts
Provo, UT

If this happens....the LDS church will end it's association with scouting. Hey at least there will be not more endless friends of scouting fund raising drives in our wards where people donate money.

TXFaux
Henderson, TX

I'm a somewhat conservative LDS assistant scout master. I have no problem with admitting gay scouts and gay scout leaders as long as there is a policy where gay scout leaders are not allowed (or other reasonable limits) to promote/evangelize their sexual orientation with the scouts.

Claudio
Springville, Ut

From the article:
According to Williams, the new policy “would eliminate the ban from the national organization’s rules, leaving local sponsoring organizations free to decide for themselves whether to admit gay Scouts.”

"The Boy Scouts would not, under any circumstances, dictate a position to units, members or parents," Smith told BSA spokesman Deron Smith told USA Today. "Under this proposed policy, the BSA would not require any chartered organization to act in ways inconsistent with that organization's mission, principles or religious beliefs."
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Explain to me why the LDS Church would have any problem with this? This wouldn't affect scouting in any measurable way for troops chartered by the LDS Church.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

re:TXFaux
"to promote/evangelize their sexual orientation with the scouts."

question:
What would "promoting/evangelizing" their sexual orientation consist of?

Would admitting they aren't married because they're gay be considered evangelizing/promoting?

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Less hate in the world is, well, less hate!

dell
San Antonio, TX

It's not just Mormons (1/3 of total scout troops). Catholics make up another 10% of scouts and various Christian organizations make up another sizeable chunk. Does it make sense for an organization to alienate 50% of it's membership for the sake of political correctness and open the ranks to the 2% of the US population that is gay? Besides, how may gay 12 year olds are there? This is more about Gay men wanting for "some" reason to be scout leaders. It may not be sexual, maybe they are just keeping an eye out for boys that don't fit in. Boys that struggled like they did at that age. Boys that started wondering if they are gay and the gay leader would be there to listen and help them figure that out...just like they did. Ask yourself, why do gay rights activists target the largest organization of young men in the country with such energy? Why don't they work on the AARP or the NRA with the same energy? Why must it be the boy scouts?

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