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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 23 2013 10:50 p.m. MST

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Herbert Gravy
Salinas, CA

Now, now. No taunting, please.

Y Grad Pumping Gas
Beaver, UT

Its as simple as Math

Braden Kearsley minus Johnny Ragin equals Zero

Coug Nation is a wash, Bronco looses them as fast as he gains them.

Tom Holmoe should be out recruiting, to find out just how hard it is for the coaching staff to sell INDY snake oil to high school kids. Get in a BCS conference its a must! Then the recruits will stick to their word.

New Tshirt; Find a HomeO

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

@ Ducky:

"utah doesn't have any "above" 3 star recruits."

Rivals: Utah 4 stars 1
byU 4 stars 1
Utah 3 stars 23
byU 3 stars 7

Scout: Utah 4 stars 0
byU 4 stars 1
Utah 3 stars 16
byU 3 stars 8

Espn: Utah 4 stars 1
byU 4 stars 1
Utah 3 stars 24
byU 3 stars 12
Unranked Utah 1
Unranked byU 7

247 Sports
Utah 4 stars 3
byU 4 stars 0
Utah 3 stars 20
byU 3 stars 11

247 Composite
Utah 4 stars 0
byU 4 stars 1
Utah 3 stars 25
byU 3 stars 15

No spin, just facts: best case scenario, byU 1 4 star, 15 3 stars. Utah, 3 4 star, 25 3 star. Worst case, byU 0 4 star, 7 3 star, (7 unranked). Utah 0 4 star, 16 3 star.

Care to revise your statement, or is spin and selective information all you have?

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Good luck to Brayden, BYU got a nice pick up.

phantomblade
Salt Lake City, Utah

Y wannabe / U Grad Pumping Gas

It's as simple as math

Braden Kearsley + KVN = HUGE + for BYU for 2013.

Johnny Ragin only switched to Cal because he didn't want to spend a year riding the pine behind KVN after Van Noy decided to return for his senior year at BYU.

Not a big deal - BYU can use the scholly for another OL, which is BYU's most pressing need in this recruiting class anyway.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@vegasute

JC guys do not count.

sls
Columbia, MO

Anae knows good talent on the offensive line after coaching linemen at Texas Tech, BYU and Arizona. The fact that he made this kid a priority as soon as he was hired is proof enough that BYU just landed an outstanding new recruit.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

@Ducky - they do not count only in your world. Besides - Lotuleilei & Dre'Vian Young are NOT JC!!

Just as I knew - lil ducky only has spin and selective information.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Good thing the Y was able to keep Kearsley, since they just lost 3-star (#65 LB) Johnny Ragin, III to the Pac-12 (Cal), and instead replaced him with a commitment from somebody I'd never heard of, and who hadn't been rated with any stars. That brings the cougars to a recruiting class with over 70% of their commits rated by Rivals with 2-stars or less.

With only 4 of Utah's recruits (14%) receiving fewer than 3-stars, it looks like big brother is about to get out-2-star recruited by the cougs once again.

Utah'95
FPO, AE

VegasUte,

Your 1:26 p.m. post was well researched and intelligent. But remember, objectivity and logic are not what most of those who troll these posts prefer. It's about emotion!

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Duckhunter,

If "JV guys do not count," then why to most college programs, including your beloved Cougars (who have 5 ready to sign), bother recruiting them? And why do scouting sites bother grading them?

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It sounds like this guy should be a solid player. Good luck Brayden, and BYU. Except when you face the Utes, of course!

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Naval Vet

"With only 4 of Utah's recruits (14%) receiving fewer than 3-stars, it looks like..."

blah, blah, blah

All of those "stars" will just make it that much more embarrassing for U when the Utes finish 3-9 with no bowl in 2013,

while big brother, with all of those "un-stars", is enjoying another fun bowl bowl, this time in San Francisco.

Bluto
Sandy, UT

Most of this years recruits, for BYU, are irrelevant for a few years.
What to look at are the recruits from 2 and 3 years ago which have now come home from their missions. Bronco has done a nice job managing the stream.

And with Holmoe making it very clear to Bronco, that the Offense belongs to Anae now, things are looking up.

You sorry ute fans only need to worry about your Pac 12 brethren from now on.
BYU is not your competition anymore.
U never could trump BYU's overall success in their athletic program.

The fact that Utah has the smallest budget, worst facilities and fan support in the Pac, is not encouraging. Add the fact that Utah is near the bottom in Academics and recruiting further demonstates that Utah is in for decades of cellar dwelling, in just about every sport.

It's why Whitttingham was the only one not smiling at the Pac-12 announcement.
He knew that Utah would generally not be competitive.

So settle in Wannabees and dream of one day having a National Championship, Heisman and Outland winners or maybe even producing actual College Hall of Famers or Super Bowl/NFL MVP'S.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Earlier this week, word out of Provostan was that "stars don't matter", but according to THIS article, Anae's top recruiting priority was.....the lone 4-star recruit in this class. Not (3-star) Ragin. Not (2-star) Weichert.

Just (4-star) Kearsley.

I guess the "stars don't matter" mantra only applies when it begins to look like you aren't going to get very many. That's called "Cognitive Dissonance".

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@vegas ute

Getting a jc guy is not comparable to getting a high school guy. jc guys are stop gaps, guys that are only there for a couple of years. If you are touting "4 star" jc guys as some sort of evidence of "superior" utah recruiting then I do find it funny.

Sure most programs get a jc guy of two each year but utah fills 1/4 of thier class with those guys. It shows they cannot get top high schoolers and need to "fill gaps" almost every year.

truecoug1
Provo, UT

@NavalVet "but according to THIS article, Anae's top recruiting priority was.....the lone 4-star recruit in this class. Not (3-star) Ragin. Not (2-star) Weichert."

I'm going to take a wild guess that the stars weren't the important factor, but Kearsley's position was. BYU's OL was awful last year and we needed depth there. Hence the fact that this week alone, BYU has received commits from 3 OL (including Kearsley). We're already loaded at LB (Ragin) and WR (Weichers), so those guys weren't as important.

It appears that BYU is recruiting based on their needs, not stars. I know that's a novel concept for you, Naval, but you're a smart guy, I'm sure you'll be able to understand why that's important if you think about it long enough.

I'm just glad that Utah has finally started recruiting QB's. Maybe they'll be able to have an offense that finishes higher than 100th in the nation this year?

Go Cougars!

Utah'95
FPO, AE

Duckhunter,

In the incoming class:

According to Scout, Utah has commitments from 6 JC players. Out of 27.

Of BYU's 26 committed players, 5 are from a Junior College.

Which of the following list of ex-JC Utah football players do you think the Utes should have passed on signing?

John White
Reggie Dunn
Trevor Reilly
Star Lotulelei

John Cullen
Matt Asiata
Robert Johnson
Quinton Ganther
Paul Soliai
Steve Smith

cougarSNV
Las Vegas, NV

I appreciate Y Grad/Y Dad's point. Y fans do have a responsibility. Well Said.

It will be interesting to see how the team does next year with an O.C. that can be allowed to run the offense without a big need for direction. The foundation of a real good Offensive line will allow the QB to find the open man.

Already looking forward to next year!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@utah'95

I'm not saying utah should have passed on any of them, but I am saying getting a "4 star" jc recruit is not like getting a 4 star high school recruit. You only get 2 years out of a jc guy which means they are about half as valuable as a 4 star hs guy. You need to get two 4 star jc guys just to get the playing time of one 4 star high school recruit.

utah almost never gets 4 star high school recruits, most of those they get are short timer jc guys. BYU usually get a couple of 4 star hs guys every year. I would say bYU does a far better job recruiting higher rated 4 star talent than utah does.

That said I don't think the stars matter that much. Obviously there is some vailidity to it but there are far to many low rated players that turn into really good players, and far to many highly rated players that don't, for it to be as important as you utah "fans" try to make it.

As for 4 star jc guys? Well let me know when anthony denham does anything at all.

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