Good on Jim Matheson for daring to take on one of the left's sacred
cows!Anyone opposed to this is guilty of helping train killers like
the Connecticut guy.
And now the GOP and rightwingers will be screaming that Matheson is trampling
the Constitution again.But I'll bet that if this had come from
one of them, the tune would be entirely different.Wait ---
didn't I hear something like this from the NRA?
saying that anyone opposed to this legislation is guilty of training killers is
just plain ignorance. Whether or not this legislation passes it will only have
the same effect as on R rated movies. The problem is not the rating or not. The
problem is parents. I've seen many times where parents will let their
child watch a movie or show that is clearly not age appropriate.
20 children are murdered, gunned down in elementary school.No gun
legislation.Ban video games.We should also ban sewing
machines...to defer the impact of salmon.Real solutions
Ban the games, don't ban the games, freedom of speech, censorship. And
presented by a Democrat. Boy there will be some people struggling with this.
When will one of the other Utah delegates other than Orrin Hatch make a break
from the "right wing masters"?
So long as we are willing to trample on the constitution to solve the gun
violence problem, why not ban violent video games?
Why not ban video games?Because it is irrelevant, and off topic.Video games did not kill 20 children last month in elementary school.Guns did.
Anyone who thinks video games train killers has obviously never played a video
game. I've played more video games than I could possible recount. Not
only am I a total pacifist, but I don't have the first clue how to properly
handle a firearm.People try to tell me that guns don't kill
people, people do. But now they are telling me that video games also do?
Please, go away.
Representative Matheson....good job! Keep violent products out of the hands of
children! If they want it their parents have to buy it for them.
So video games kill but guns don't? please stop with the silly slight of
hands Matheson, stop being a sock puppet for the NRA
People kill, not video games, nor guns. They are influenced by video games,
quite often, or other violent sources, they do very bad things to get weapons
(guns, knives/swords in China recently, whatever it may be), the worst and
smartest ones plot their evil act where it will be most effective (gun-free
zone, for example), and then they carry it out.What we need is to
help people not get that point as best we can (moral societal standards, good
family/friend/community support, prevent/manage children's access to
potential harmful influences, etc., be pro-active when warning signs are
present), hence the legislation. When all else fails, we need to be able to
protect ourselves from people intent on doing bad things.
@summitheighta So we should do nothing to try to make it harder to get
guns? We should put all of our marbles into hoping they dont reach the point of
Tolstoy- I appreciate the point, of course there's a balance that has to be
maintained. I think we can be smart about making it difficult for people to
obtain and use guns improperly or illegally. I also believe that we can do a
much better job of prosecuting those that commit crimes (including gun crimes),
as well as help those at risk. The problem with laws that uniformly
reduce access to guns for ALL people is that it effectively disarms those intent
on obeying the law and enables those that already intend to break it with less
risk of resistance. And it allows people in power to be corrupted into
believing that they can commit tyranny.Overall, though, I think our
true answer to the problem is to help people become better people. If violence
is the problem, that is what we need to combat.I believe that
it's quite similar to addiction. You can never remove all temptations or
opportunities for an addict to use their "substance." The answer for
healing is within the person, ultimately.
I think we would do better to ban gun-free zones and to bring prayer back into
A ban on guns or video games are ridiculous. I've never played violent
video games, but I don't believe that kids are committing crimes because of
them. Sorry, doesn't fly. Young men have always fantasized about going to
war, being a hero- the same stuff that video games are all about. guns and video games don't kill people. People kill people. Ban guns
and video games and I'd bet that you'll have continued shootings.
Unfortunately, that's the world we live in.We must get back to
a society that loves to help one another, not one that forces us to pay for
someones health care. Forces someone to play this game not that game. Forces
law abiding citizens to turn in guns. All that does is build resentment. You used to be able to rely on family, religion and LOCAL community for
help. Now, politics and government have become the great caretaker of the
individual and is doing a poor job while spending trillions of dollars on
failing programs.God help us all.
summit_heights,I very much enjoy your view on this subject.
I'm overjoyed when I see that others have views similar to mine. These of course are difficult topics and charged with emotion. I commend your
levelheadedness. May we all find it within ourselves to think this through in a
manner which preserves our liberties and freedoms. Let us all do our best to
keep the USA a place where liberties are enjoyed and differences can be
Pagan- The gun didn't kill anyone. It was a tool in a murderers hand. But
the gun didn't do the killing. When are you guys going to get this? A
mentally disturbed individual plotted a deadly campaign against defenseless
children. His choice of tool to bring his plan to fruition was a gun. It's
convenient to argue the gun because it was accessible, but what about those that
aren't and what about when BO takes the guns away? Bombs are next. And then
you will have destruction that makes anything we've witnessed, pale in
comparison. The crazies in the Middle East figured this one out and it
won't be long before some idiot does it here. The real issue is helping
those troubled individuals before they get to a point that they find a gun,
bomb, or whatever is available to them to kill with. My guns have never killed
anyone. They just sit quietly in their safe. They have never tried to break free
and go on a rampage. See, it would take a crazy person to use it, to accomplish
that. I'm sane by the way.