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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 22 2013 5:10 p.m. MST

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washcomom
Beaverton, OR

Make sure those suits have a few extra inches in them for growth. These young men still aren't done growing when they are 18!

Seriously - good luck to them all. It's a great new adventure out there!

Success in life
Murray , UT

I am deeply concerned that thousands of young people choose a mission over their education and not enroll in college after high school. As an objective outside observer it seems that their is so much importance placed on missions that it is a matter of family pride, a rite of passage, expected even. Most Protestant denominations require their missionaries to be ordained ministers which typically requires a four year degree from a seminary college followed by an entry level position in a church which prepares them for what lies ahead as educated adults. I realize many return missionaries do go to college upon return, but an astonishing number get married soon after getting back with no marketable job skills or education. Utah has nearly the highest college dropout rate for women in the nation due to early marriage and young motherhood. My whole life I was taught that the gold standard for success was to go to college, get a job, get married, get financially established, buy a house, then have children. Otherwise you would experience financial hardship most of your life, and I see so much of that here and it is an avoidable self inflicted wound.

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

Success is a subjective concept and education is merely one of the biased tools giving false hope in today's young adults.

Jobs, training and eduction are an evolutionary process. Childhood dreams and aspirations are fantasy not to be treated as a goal.

Education is not a tool to success, its often times a deterrent to success because 18 year old's are not ready. And this is the failure in our education system and why we are a nation where PTSD is a way of life and an excuse not to be successful.

Colleges focus on poverty jobs, not education or progressive free will and free minds. They create PTSD, obedience, and submissive employees working for the dead end industrial machine.

The best choice and 18 year old can make is to break the eduction process to give themselves time to think and look as the world and themselves and where they want to fit in it. High school to today's college dulls minds then deters progressive economy and society.

My escape and my success was not because of formal eduction, is was informal and desired education that made me successful and more than satisfied with my life.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Dear Success in Life:

Your fears are ingrounded. Missionaries, as a group tend, to be very educated, successful people.

These young people know they are doing what the Lord would have them do. That leads to many wonderful blessings in life.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Oops! I meant unfounded, not ungrounded.

RBB
Sandy, UT

@success, I would not be overly concerned. Like the military, missions teach discipline and commitment. A college professor does not seen so scary after you have knocked 10000 doors and had a large number slammed in you face. If you did a study I bet you would find that most returned missionaries have higher GPAs and are less likely to wonder aimlessly.through higher education. The bigger threat right now is college age kids thinking that education is a huge debt to take on when jobs are scarce.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

@Success
President Kimball established a sequence back in 1974. It was Mission-Start College-Marriage-Children-Finish College. His point was not to wait to marry and start a family.
It worked out just fine for me. My wife and I are both degreed and we have seven responsible children starting families of their own.
Perhaps the old ways are better than the progressive ones where you have a house before you have children.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Say No to BO
"Perhaps the old ways are better than the progressive ones where you have a house before you have children."

It depends on the individual/couple. Personally I would prefer a certain level of financial security before having kids since that would make things less stressful.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@Say No to BO

Congrats on making it work but you are one data point. I'd say the vast majority of people are better served getting their affairs in order before they start having kids. I'm a faithful RM, got married a year after I got back (at the start of my 3rd year in college), graduated, saved up enough money that I could put a down payment on a small starter home so I wouldn't have to pay into the scam that is mortgage insurance, THEN had kids.

President Kimball had his sequence in the 70's, but that has since been superseded by President Hinckley's counsel to let let anyone pressure you into having kids before you're ready. Remember how we're supposed to get out of debt? That's much harder when you're a college student making $10k/year with a wife, a kid, and one on the way.

Y_is_for_Yale
Salt Lake City, UT

RBB - While I agree church missions teach young LDS kids discipline and commitment, I think any comparison between a church mission and the military is, in general, a poor comparison. The sacrifices our military members make in service to their nation, and the sense of discipline and commitment they constantly show on the field of battle is in no way similar to a young missionary's "mission". The "missions" our service members are sent on, in service to our nation, and, hence, in service to the citizens of Utah (of which the LDS faithful benefit from), are very much different than the "missions" embarked on by the LDS youth. For one, a military mission seeks to benefit the general defense of an entire nation (or nations), not just a chosen segment or a particular religious denomination. For two, our military members put their lives on the line during their "missions". Please stop with the military references. Moreover, you have no data to back up your claim that LDS missionaries "have higher GPAs". The biggest threat to our nation is a lack of willingness of its citizens to serve in capacities that, often, do not directly benefit themselves.

bored
Lindon, UT

I think many of you are still missing the underlying point - all of these decisions are individual decisions. No one pattern works for everyone, nor should it. People within the church, and outside of it for that matter, should consider their own situation, individually, and not necessarily lets trends, customs, traditions, etc, control those decisions. Balance all those things with personal circumstances, and a little inspiration, and make the best choice for YOU. It might be tough for some parents to handle a child not following exactly in their footsteps, but most of us have diverted at least a little from family traditions, and things have turned out okay.

Just one caveat however: Don't ever let your quest to be 'your own person' and do things 'your own way' allow you to forget underlying fundamental truths. Anchor yourself in eternal principles, and the 'practical' part of your path through life will usually take care of itself. And for those really uptight people who believe there is only one way to success (i.e. a college education is not for everyone), lighten up! It simply is not true.

bored
Lindon, UT

I think @Y_is_for_Yale might have a big chip on his shoulder about something here. First of all, making a comparison of serving a mission to serving in the military was not really meant to say they are the same. There are parallels that can be made, without someone over-reaching and thinking one is considering them the same. But, some people have a hard time seeing past the literal and considering the kind of similarities that exist in so many things. This is what I would call being closed-minded, not quite how the world would define it. If you're a military man and offended by the comparison, then get over it. If you think that people who serve missions are 'self-serving' then you're way off the mark. Someday you will come to know just how similar these 'missions' really are, and how serving a mission and teaching of Christ will ultimately do much more to benefit the nations of the world than military service will.

As far as personal sacrifice goes, however, you may be on to something. But I still think there are comparisons to be made.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

I believe that some don't realize the impact of talking about missions and the military. There have been times when people could not go on missions due to allotments for missionaries going on a mission. There were plenty that had to go into the military during the draft times in the past. Some of those didn't have the opportunity to go on a church mission as their life was cut short serving their country. Many were able to go on a mission and then were still drafted into the military service. There were individual decisions but also governmental decisions and the Church had to make decisions with allotments.

Times vary with draft or no draft. If women are offered more combat related jobs and the draft comes back, we may have a situation for our 19 year old sisters to go through what our young men have done in the past. We live in the latter-days and know it won't be easy to hasten the work. Bad people have bad plans for our civilization. I am glad to see that Elder Barker is going on a mission and hope and pray others follow the Prophet's words.

JD Books
Sulphurdale, UT

Sounds like some of these businesses should donate money back to the colleges that will have to fire people due to this decision.

Success in life
Murray , UT

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

I congratulate you on your success, but I can't say that I couldn't disagree with you more. I will say college isn't for everybody, and many companies will bring college grads into entry level positions where a degree isn't necessary. In those cases there is some truth to what you say. A college education if you take advantage of it will develop critical thinking skills, and expand ones world view, while giving them marketable job skills provided they study something useful. If college focuses on poverty jobs heaven help the ones who don't go. I must be a statistical anomaly because my wife has earned over 6 figures since her mid 30s and I am not far behind her and not yet 40. I have lived all over the US, and have a fetish for $60k cars. I set my own work schedule, and have the flexibility to work from home. There is a saying, youth is wasted on the young and it is so true. These days young people can't afford to miss opportunities to better themselves. If it is not college then what do you suggest these kids do?

K
Mchenry, IL

The men would go no matter the 1 year age diffence. Why all the pictures of the elders and their preparations? Isn't it the sisters numbers driving up busines? New business being created because the new age means they are about to go at an exponential rate higher?

Sorella Bella
Boise, ID

I own Sorella Bella, an online store for sister missionaries. Business quadrupled for a bit there, but has since slowed down quite a bit. I am still doing more business than before the announcement but it seems to be have evened out.

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