Look at the comments above and tell me something is not structurally wrong with
our business practices here in America. Many of the comments were made with a
tone of sarcasm (I think) but it all could more then feasibly happen.Good luck guys. Keep the caffine going(Personally, I have to
disagree that sodas are bad for you. I'm much more pleasant for people to
deal with AFTER I've had my morning Coke!)
To "3grandslams" think about who is doing the soada ban. You have the
same people who say that a woman has the right to say what goes on in her body
telling you that your kids do not have the right to put a soda in their body at
I just can't get over how ridiculous a soda ban is. What happened to
pro-choice. I do not like where America is going.
Wonder - What is wrong with letting them sell soda in the same machine that they
are selling other goods? Also, why do you refer to the government
folks as “evil government jack booted thugs?” Seems a little over
the top to me. I have a lot of good friends that work for the goverment. None of
them are evil. Come to think of it, I don't know any goverment workers that
I would consider evil. I am truely sorry if you know some.
@Why Not Think -- If it's a public school, it's the government. Why
should the government (nanny) have to have soda on hand to sell your kid. Buy
your own soda. Not one single evil government jack booted thug will stop you.
@Wonder So you are saying that the goverment is buying the soda in the machines
and then giving the soda to the children?
@Why Not Think -- Buy your own kids' soda. Don't expect the school to
provide your kid with soda. No one is stopping your kid from drinking gallons
of soda -- that you buy yourself from the store.@RedShirt -- Buy
your own trans fat. You can get all you want at the grocery store. Sorry you
can't eat it at all the New York restaurants you dine in so frequently.
To "Wonder" you are wrong. According to the NY Times, the government of
NY City has banned some trans fats. See "New York Bans Most Trans Fats in
Restaurants" in the NY Times.
Why is this a surprise? There are kids from our church doing this and making
$2,000 to $3,000 per year. One was apprehended by school authorities (he had a
trench coat lined with candy bars). Once they found out he wasn't selling
drugs they let him go and told him to stop it. Where there is a demand there
will be a supply.
Love it! Way to see a market and go for it. These kids just got a great
education on how the free market works. To the soda haters, get your commie
hands off my soda.
@ WonderSo if the government is not trying to force our teenagers to
stop drinking soda, why the legislation to remove soda from the machines?
@RBB -- Name one thing the government is not allowing you to eat (other than
illegal drugs -- you got me there). The only thing that government is
regulating you not to eat is tainted food.
Does anyone think that we really have more freedom than the colonists did? Yes,
they had to deal with a king, but we have to deal with government that regulates
everything we do, right down to what we eat and drink. The problem is that we
have too many people who 1) think they know what is best for you and 2) are
willing to use the power of the state to inflict their views on you. What ever
happened to "I teach them correct principles and let them govern
Hmmmmmmmmm, I see the business license police in your future. Too bad. The
school ought to tell the feds to take a hike and do what is best for the school.
I'll bet they still have energy drinks in the school, which are far worse
than a 12 OZ Dr. Pepper.
re OHBUAs long as alcohol and tobacco are readily available, it is
silly to concern yourself with soda and candy.
@Jay Tee -- Who is telling anyone what they can and can't ingest? Have
your kid take his own darn soda pop to school if you want him to drink it so
bad. Why do you have to buy your soda from the government (the school)?
Can't you go to the store yourself? Does the government have to do
everything for you (provide your kid his soda pop)?
Re:OHBUSchools have banned soft drinks for 3 years now. How has it
affected obesity so far? It hasn't. I see it as another freedom that is
taken from us. In other states, Schools have banned soft drinks for almost 10
years, and still no reduction in obesity
What's really sad is that now we have the most disorganized, indebted,
confused, and encumbered organization in the history of the world (the U. S.
government)dictating what people can and cannot ingest on their own time. Stop
and and think about that. How in the world have we sunk this far?
Fact or Fake,You might want to check your research again. There are
literally hundreds of studies on soda's effects on health. By and large,
the vast majority of those not sponsored by the ABA (American Beverage
Association) find negative health risks, including obesity, stroke, kidney
damage, and increased blood pressure. Also, a recent study by the Colgate
company found soda to be the leading factor in tooth decay. To lump it in with
other sugary drinks is disingenuous. Yes, they can all cause problems in
excess, but the truth is, soda provides no health benefit, while the others do.
That's like saying that air pollution causes lung cancer, so to single out
cigarettes as a leading cause isn't accurate. Re: Maudine,You just hit the nail on the head as to why soda bans on campus work.
Kids don't plan ahead, and in the absence of this kind of workaround, they
will just consume what is available. While we can't legislate their
behavior, it's at the very least unethical to profit off of it. I'll
bet tobacco execs would pay good money to put cigarette vending machines back in
My daughter has been selling candy bars to her high school classmates for two
years now, and has made all of her spending money that way--she has been buying
her own clothes, books, and school supplies.
Mormon Ute... Have your daughter check again. There are probably vending
machines but they do not dispense soda pop. It will be water, juice or sports
drink. I don't know for sure but I believe your daughter is
mistaken.By the way, this law came about during the Bush
administration. The school lunch fiasco has shown up during the Obama
administration.Davis High just chose to ignore the mandate handed
down from the feds. It finally caught up to them to the tune of $15K.I hear that is about how much a typical high school lost in revenue when the
I think it's great that kids are learning the value of hard work and how
the economy operates. I think they should be getting class credit for it.
Its nice to see the Obama Administration taking steps to promote small business.
What I don't get is why so many kids are so willing to waste their money.
If you can buy a case of soda cheep enough to make a profit selling it two cans
for a dollar, why aren't the customer kids buying their own cases of soda
and taking a can or twe to school with them everyday?For this same
reason I don't understand why they have soda and candy vending machines at
schools. You know you are going to be there, you know you are going to eat - why
not save some money and bring it from home?
"If there is a demand somebody is going to supply it. Good on them for
recognizing a business opportunity.""... I admire you for your
business wits."I appreciate the wholehearted support for my out of
state delivery business. Every time government bans something that is available
or cheaper somewhere else, someone will figure out how to exploit it.
My daughter is a current student at Davis High and she tells me they still have
soda in machines and in the school store. She said the reason the kids are
doing so well is they sell them much cheaper than the store and the machines.
I'm not sure where Mike Anderson got his information, but simply walking
into the school he would have seen the pop machines.
C'mon OHBU again. You talk about research and soda pop but you clearly
mistate some facts. First, it is an old wive's tale that carbonation is bad
for you. There is no evidence that it does anything to the body. Second,
although it is true that soda drinkers do not as much plain water, they do
generally get as much or more water through the soda. A study in Sweden about 5
years ago showed that any beverage keeps you hydrated. In fact, caffeine has
little effect on the water retention. Third, dentists discourage drinking soda,
gatorade, citric juices, coffee or milk. They all have acids that can erode
teeth. My dentist said it takes an hour for the acids to start breaking down
enamel. His solution to the problem is to swallow.Look, I am not saying
soda is good for you. I think plain pure water is the best. However to say it is
bad for you is not supported by the latest research. I do feel it is safe to
say, though, it is not necessarily good for you.
Does your mom know you're drinking Coke and Mountain Dew?Now, they
might have some competition. Imagine five vendors instead of one.Or some
wagons with cute little umbrellas.Where will it all end?But we
missed the real point here. The federal government sends the mandates to local
school districts. Mandates about sports teams, special ed, busing, bilingual
ed, school lunch...and in return they give us back a paltry amount of our own
money to carry out those mandates.The tail wags the dog.
C'mon OHBU. Everyone knows soda is not good for you. The mistake you make
is that you have turned, "They shouldn't do that" into "We
shouldn't let them do that." And that is not how America should
You forgot they need to pay their FICA taxes, unemployment insurance. State
licensing as well. They need to get liability insurance in case one of the
soda's and candy bars cause their customers to get fat. They have to make
sure they are not violating any Environmental laws. Hope they don't kill a
bird with one of the discarded wrappers. That is federal prison time right
there. Make sure they pay their fair share in taxes. while offering their
employees full benefits, a livable wage, yearly raises, and heaven forbid they
try to make at least a 5% profit margin. If they try to, they will be called
greedy corporate fat cats.
That's fine with me. I think the first poster is correct that the city will
have a hard time finding a legal excuse for letting them stay there. Other
businesses will complain eventually.
Reminds me of when BYU police kicked kids off BYU property for selling frozen
pops to Missionaries at the MTC.
If there is a demand somebody is going to supply it. Good on them for
recognizing a business opportunity.I'm sure Davis Co will want
a piece of the tax action and will probably ask them to purchase a street
vendors permit, food handlers permit, small business license and will want to
periodically have the Davis Co health dept inspect their coolers on a monthly
The justifications for snickers and ice cream are pretty silly. However, the
evidence is pretty overwhelming what soda is doing to our country. Candy is
terrible for you, but soda is so much worse. Ask a dentist which they would
recommend you consume, if you must. Soda drinkers also drink much less water,
which has numerous side effects. Beyond the sugar, soda also pumps you full of
carbonation. While the DesNews may be satisfied with a high school kid's
argument, unfortunately the research doesn't bear this out.
Now that the word is out and this article has been written watch for the
business license police to show up and demand that the kids get a business
license. Then the business license application will be denied because they
don't have a permanent building structure, a customer restroom, a food
handler's permit from the health department and on and on. So boys I wish
the best of luck and I admire you for your business wits.