Soda machine ban means good business for 3 Davis High students


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  • SLC gal Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2013 8:29 a.m.

    Look at the comments above and tell me something is not structurally wrong with our business practices here in America. Many of the comments were made with a tone of sarcasm (I think) but it all could more then feasibly happen.

    Good luck guys. Keep the caffine going

    (Personally, I have to disagree that sodas are bad for you. I'm much more pleasant for people to deal with AFTER I've had my morning Coke!)

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Jan. 22, 2013 3:40 p.m.

    To "3grandslams" think about who is doing the soada ban. You have the same people who say that a woman has the right to say what goes on in her body telling you that your kids do not have the right to put a soda in their body at lunch time.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 22, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    I just can't get over how ridiculous a soda ban is. What happened to pro-choice.

    I do not like where America is going.

  • WhyNotThink North, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 1:42 p.m.

    Wonder - What is wrong with letting them sell soda in the same machine that they are selling other goods?

    Also, why do you refer to the government folks as “evil government jack booted thugs?” Seems a little over the top to me. I have a lot of good friends that work for the goverment. None of them are evil. Come to think of it, I don't know any goverment workers that I would consider evil. I am truely sorry if you know some.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    @Why Not Think -- If it's a public school, it's the government. Why should the government (nanny) have to have soda on hand to sell your kid. Buy your own soda. Not one single evil government jack booted thug will stop you.

  • WhyNotThink North, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 12:37 p.m.

    @Wonder So you are saying that the goverment is buying the soda in the machines and then giving the soda to the children?

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    @Why Not Think -- Buy your own kids' soda. Don't expect the school to provide your kid with soda. No one is stopping your kid from drinking gallons of soda -- that you buy yourself from the store.

    @RedShirt -- Buy your own trans fat. You can get all you want at the grocery store. Sorry you can't eat it at all the New York restaurants you dine in so frequently.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Jan. 22, 2013 11:22 a.m.

    To "Wonder" you are wrong. According to the NY Times, the government of NY City has banned some trans fats. See "New York Bans Most Trans Fats in Restaurants" in the NY Times.

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    Jan. 22, 2013 10:10 a.m.

    Why is this a surprise? There are kids from our church doing this and making $2,000 to $3,000 per year. One was apprehended by school authorities (he had a trench coat lined with candy bars). Once they found out he wasn't selling drugs they let him go and told him to stop it. Where there is a demand there will be a supply.

  • JP71 Ogden, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    Love it! Way to see a market and go for it. These kids just got a great education on how the free market works. To the soda haters, get your commie hands off my soda.

  • WhyNotThink North, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    @ Wonder

    So if the government is not trying to force our teenagers to stop drinking soda, why the legislation to remove soda from the machines?

  • chase SL Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 9:36 a.m.


  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    @RBB -- Name one thing the government is not allowing you to eat (other than illegal drugs -- you got me there). The only thing that government is regulating you not to eat is tainted food.

  • RBB Sandy, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    Does anyone think that we really have more freedom than the colonists did? Yes, they had to deal with a king, but we have to deal with government that regulates everything we do, right down to what we eat and drink. The problem is that we have too many people who 1) think they know what is best for you and 2) are willing to use the power of the state to inflict their views on you. What ever happened to "I teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves?"

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 7:17 a.m.

    Hmmmmmmmmm, I see the business license police in your future. Too bad. The school ought to tell the feds to take a hike and do what is best for the school. I'll bet they still have energy drinks in the school, which are far worse than a 12 OZ Dr. Pepper.

  • SME Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 22, 2013 6:38 a.m.

    re OHBU

    As long as alcohol and tobacco are readily available, it is silly to concern yourself with soda and candy.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 10:39 p.m.

    @Jay Tee -- Who is telling anyone what they can and can't ingest? Have your kid take his own darn soda pop to school if you want him to drink it so bad. Why do you have to buy your soda from the government (the school)? Can't you go to the store yourself? Does the government have to do everything for you (provide your kid his soda pop)?

  • usscuba Vernal, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 9:47 p.m.

    Schools have banned soft drinks for 3 years now. How has it affected obesity so far? It hasn't. I see it as another freedom that is taken from us. In other states, Schools have banned soft drinks for almost 10 years, and still no reduction in obesity

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 9:28 p.m.

    What's really sad is that now we have the most disorganized, indebted, confused, and encumbered organization in the history of the world (the U. S. government)dictating what people can and cannot ingest on their own time. Stop and and think about that. How in the world have we sunk this far?

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    Jan. 21, 2013 9:15 p.m.

    Fact or Fake,

    You might want to check your research again. There are literally hundreds of studies on soda's effects on health. By and large, the vast majority of those not sponsored by the ABA (American Beverage Association) find negative health risks, including obesity, stroke, kidney damage, and increased blood pressure. Also, a recent study by the Colgate company found soda to be the leading factor in tooth decay. To lump it in with other sugary drinks is disingenuous. Yes, they can all cause problems in excess, but the truth is, soda provides no health benefit, while the others do. That's like saying that air pollution causes lung cancer, so to single out cigarettes as a leading cause isn't accurate.

    Re: Maudine,

    You just hit the nail on the head as to why soda bans on campus work. Kids don't plan ahead, and in the absence of this kind of workaround, they will just consume what is available. While we can't legislate their behavior, it's at the very least unethical to profit off of it. I'll bet tobacco execs would pay good money to put cigarette vending machines back in schools.

  • Spitvalve Denton, TX
    Jan. 21, 2013 7:11 p.m.

    My daughter has been selling candy bars to her high school classmates for two years now, and has made all of her spending money that way--she has been buying her own clothes, books, and school supplies.

  • common twit Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 7:06 p.m.

    Mormon Ute... Have your daughter check again. There are probably vending machines but they do not dispense soda pop. It will be water, juice or sports drink.
    I don't know for sure but I believe your daughter is mistaken.

    By the way, this law came about during the Bush administration. The school lunch fiasco has shown up during the Obama administration.

    Davis High just chose to ignore the mandate handed down from the feds. It finally caught up to them to the tune of $15K.

    I hear that is about how much a typical high school lost in revenue when the law passed.

  • justamacguy Manti, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 6:53 p.m.

    I think it's great that kids are learning the value of hard work and how the economy operates. I think they should be getting class credit for it.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Jan. 21, 2013 6:32 p.m.

    Its nice to see the Obama Administration taking steps to promote small business.

  • Maudine SLC, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    What I don't get is why so many kids are so willing to waste their money. If you can buy a case of soda cheep enough to make a profit selling it two cans for a dollar, why aren't the customer kids buying their own cases of soda and taking a can or twe to school with them everyday?

    For this same reason I don't understand why they have soda and candy vending machines at schools. You know you are going to be there, you know you are going to eat - why not save some money and bring it from home?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 4:14 p.m.

    "If there is a demand somebody is going to supply it. Good on them for recognizing a business opportunity."
    "... I admire you for your business wits."
    I appreciate the wholehearted support for my out of state delivery business. Every time government bans something that is available or cheaper somewhere else, someone will figure out how to exploit it.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 3:44 p.m.

    My daughter is a current student at Davis High and she tells me they still have soda in machines and in the school store. She said the reason the kids are doing so well is they sell them much cheaper than the store and the machines. I'm not sure where Mike Anderson got his information, but simply walking into the school he would have seen the pop machines.

  • Fact or Fake Vernal, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    C'mon OHBU again. You talk about research and soda pop but you clearly mistate some facts. First, it is an old wive's tale that carbonation is bad for you. There is no evidence that it does anything to the body. Second, although it is true that soda drinkers do not as much plain water, they do generally get as much or more water through the soda. A study in Sweden about 5 years ago showed that any beverage keeps you hydrated. In fact, caffeine has little effect on the water retention. Third, dentists discourage drinking soda, gatorade, citric juices, coffee or milk. They all have acids that can erode teeth. My dentist said it takes an hour for the acids to start breaking down enamel. His solution to the problem is to swallow.
    Look, I am not saying soda is good for you. I think plain pure water is the best. However to say it is bad for you is not supported by the latest research. I do feel it is safe to say, though, it is not necessarily good for you.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 3:11 p.m.

    Does your mom know you're drinking Coke and Mountain Dew?
    Now, they might have some competition. Imagine five vendors instead of one.
    Or some wagons with cute little umbrellas.
    Where will it all end?
    But we missed the real point here. The federal government sends the mandates to local school districts. Mandates about sports teams, special ed, busing, bilingual ed, school lunch...and in return they give us back a paltry amount of our own money to carry out those mandates.
    The tail wags the dog.

  • Zona Zone Mesa, AZ
    Jan. 21, 2013 2:50 p.m.

    C'mon OHBU. Everyone knows soda is not good for you. The mistake you make is that you have turned, "They shouldn't do that" into "We shouldn't let them do that." And that is not how America should operate.

  • Jory payson, utah
    Jan. 21, 2013 1:57 p.m.

    You forgot they need to pay their FICA taxes, unemployment insurance. State licensing as well. They need to get liability insurance in case one of the soda's and candy bars cause their customers to get fat. They have to make sure they are not violating any Environmental laws. Hope they don't kill a bird with one of the discarded wrappers. That is federal prison time right there. Make sure they pay their fair share in taxes. while offering their employees full benefits, a livable wage, yearly raises, and heaven forbid they try to make at least a 5% profit margin. If they try to, they will be called greedy corporate fat cats.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Jan. 21, 2013 1:45 p.m.

    That's fine with me. I think the first poster is correct that the city will have a hard time finding a legal excuse for letting them stay there. Other businesses will complain eventually.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    Reminds me of when BYU police kicked kids off BYU property for selling frozen pops to Missionaries at the MTC.

  • Ironmomo Ogden, Utah
    Jan. 21, 2013 12:29 p.m.

    If there is a demand somebody is going to supply it. Good on them for recognizing a business opportunity.

    I'm sure Davis Co will want a piece of the tax action and will probably ask them to purchase a street vendors permit, food handlers permit, small business license and will want to periodically have the Davis Co health dept inspect their coolers on a monthly basis.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    Jan. 21, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    The justifications for snickers and ice cream are pretty silly. However, the evidence is pretty overwhelming what soda is doing to our country. Candy is terrible for you, but soda is so much worse. Ask a dentist which they would recommend you consume, if you must. Soda drinkers also drink much less water, which has numerous side effects. Beyond the sugar, soda also pumps you full of carbonation. While the DesNews may be satisfied with a high school kid's argument, unfortunately the research doesn't bear this out.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Jan. 21, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    Now that the word is out and this article has been written watch for the business license police to show up and demand that the kids get a business license. Then the business license application will be denied because they don't have a permanent building structure, a customer restroom, a food handler's permit from the health department and on and on. So boys I wish the best of luck and I admire you for your business wits.