There are men who want to be knights in shining armor. There are kids who can
paint frightening pictures of their home lives (true or not). This guy has kids
of his own. He may not be a pedophile, but someone who thought he was helping a
kid escape her unbearable situation. Stupid? Yes, of course, but I've
known several people who took in teens who were having problems with their
parents, and "kidnapping" never crossed their minds. In fact, many
years ago, my sister's friend came to stay with us for a few months after
her mother had smacked her around pretty thoroughly. My mom talked to the other
mom, and they agreed to the cooling-off period. I know of a woman who was a
school administrator and is now in prison for having an affair with a
14-year-old who had told her a sob story. She had a screw loose and thought he
"loved" her. He blew the whole thing off as a lark. So maybe this girl
is sweet, innocent, and duped by a creep who's old enough to be her
grandpa...and maybe not!
There are several posters on here who keep slamming other posters for being so
called "judge and jury", "Dealing out punishments" etc. Give it
a rest. Not one poster on here has convicted either of them, the 55 year old or
the 13 year old. Also., she is only a "VICTIM" right now because she
was 13 and under the law you are considered "KIDNAPPED" under the age of
18. For all we know she was part of the plan, still holding the 55 yr old
accountable for lack of judgment for a better term. But this girl has not
cooperated with police fully as of yet, this is something we know. And until
the police know everything, she is to be held just as accountable as the old
man. I am not by any means demeaning or criminalizing this girl at all. She
does need to cooperate. The fact that she is so quiet about it, makes me think,
she is trying to put an adult sized puzzle together inside her head to save
herself and because she is 13, she needs help doing that.
Stop publishing her picture. Stop printing her name. She's only thirteen
years old! How often do you publish the picture, complete with name, of other
minors? How in the world is she expected to re-establish any kind of normal
life when the newspapers use her to sell their products?It's
time to treat a minor as if she really is a minor.
Wow. With all the know it alls on this and other forums, they can do the police
work, fill in for judge and jury, and wallow in involving themselves in
something that they have no business in. Isn't life grand?
Let's try reading what has been actually stated and quit minimizing what
happened. This guy did not simply give her his phone number . . . Jail records state that:- Brooklyn called Garcia on a cell phone that
Garcia had provided herAccording to Salt Lake County Sheriff Jim
Winder: - "significant" premeditation went into the
kidnapping"- "The nature of the kidnapping is a "scary
situation," serving as a warning to families"- "It is a
complex case, and it's a case I think the community will want to pay
attention to" The police are not making the statements they are
making just for the heck of it. The community/public needs to do precisely what
Sheriff Winder had suggested and pay attention to this case (which he describes
as complex, so let's stop trying to simplify what we little we do know) and
let the "scary" nature of this situation serve "as a warning to
families". Do you really think Sheriff Winder is issuing such statements
without good reason? We just need to trust that the people who have more info
than we do know what they are talking about and are cautioning us for good
@RN4moms - Regardless of whether this girl went willingly or not, because
she's only 13 years old, it's still considered a kidnapping. A
13-year-old girl has NO business running off with a 55-year-old man. I'm
sure all those volunteers are glad that she's safe, regardless of the
surrounding circumstances. We don't know all the details yet, so before we
dole out punishments and consequences, let's wait until we know all the
facts. This girl's run away before, so there may be other issues, and it
may be that she could do with some counseling rather than punishment. All
I'm saying is, let's not be hasty or preemptively judgmental.
How about we consider the police likely know what they are talking about? The
police call this a KIDNAPPING and say "SIGNIFICANT PREMEDITATION" was
involved. People need to quit pointing fingers at the VICTIM in this case and
realize that in placing blame on the victim you become part of the problem. I
get that it doesn't make sense but the pointing fingers at the victim has
to stop. Please read again how the police describe this situation and also
understand they can only tell the public so much. If this girl
comes from a difficult background (info about that has not been released) that
would simply make her prime to be the perfect VICTIM! The police say based on
the evidence available to them (which I suspect is more than the minute amount
released to the public) that this girl is a victim, who are we to say otherwise?
It may take years for this young girl to understand the intricacies of what
happened, she is all of thirteen. We do not need to make that process any more
difficult for her by blaming her for what happened.
@Go Big Blue!!!:"If you are 50 something and you give your phone
number to a teenage girl and then pick her up and take her to your home at night
. . . you have some serious lack of judgement issues."Don't
be too harsh and judgemental. There are many important people including
politicians and movie stars who hob-nob with younger opposite sexes.
We don't know everything nor do we have the "right" to know
everything. Everyone is curious. Heaven knows I did some pretty stupid things at
that age. It just didn't get on the news. Thankfully.What we
really should take out of this is that we need to counsel with our kids about
the dangers that adults can pose. There are a lot of predators out there and
it's getting worse.
@Nan BW""I think there is much untold in this story, and it is
just as well to leave it that way."We need to know it all. The
whole story needs to come out. This poor 55 guy faces some serious issues for,
who knows, perhaps keeping a young girl alive and out of harm's way.@Shimlau:"You're right who can know what goes through the
head of any thirteen year, be they boy or girl, but a 55 year old man?"It's generally called hormones.In any even, the girl
needs to come clean... tell all. Why did she leave the house? Was it under
duress? Did the guy do anything untoward? Etc., Etc. She owes a lot to alotta
If you are 50 something and you give your phone number to a teenage girl and
then pick her up and take her to your home at night . . . you have some serious
lack of judgement issues.
Both the girl and her stupid kidnapper need to be held accountable. Many people
risked their own safety and well-being to say nothing of sacrifice to their own
families to search for her, assuming she was an actual kidnapping victim. Then,
when you add the distress they caused, there should be serious consequences for
The police have released as much information as they can at this point but have
said the community “will want to pay attention”. Quotes:"significant" premeditation went into the
kidnapping, Salt Lake County Sheriff Jim WinderBrooklyn called Garcia on a
cell phone that Garcia had provided her, according to jail records.The nature of the kidnapping is a "scary situation," serving as a
warning to families, Winder said."It is a complex case, and
it's a case I think the community will want to pay attention to," he
said. "It does have repercussions for all of us in this day and age about
how our children communicate with and interact with adults given the nature of
our society."These quotes tell me the police likely believe this
girl was groomed. Some of the best perpetrators/abusers groom their victims so
they are compliant. As a victim it seriously messes with your head because you
willingly participate in your own abuse which makes it extremely difficult to
place blame where the blame belongs because your abuser was never mean or forced
you to do anything. How do you explain that to yourself or to anyone else?
There is the possibility of serious issues at home which she feels trapped in. I
worry about her home life too if sitting in a ditch for hours seems more
I agree that there is no excuse for the 55 year old man, he should have known
better. But don't let this girl slip by just because she is 13. She is
old enough to know right from wrong no matter what the circumstance of her
voluntarily leaving her home. There is a reason she is "subdued", quiet
and has taken so long to talk to the police. There is much more to this story
than we know. She is in no way a victim here, it is not like she was held
against her will. Being dropped off in a ditch for a couple of hours, where she
hid herself is ample time to go find help, especially when you are near a
grocery store. She needs to come clean with the real story and be held
accountable for her actions also, even as a 13 year old. This is the problem
with our society, we let our kids slip by and do not hold them accountable.
Let's hold her as accountable as the 55 year old for her actions. I am
very interested to hear the real story of it all.
It would be really nice to know more about her family. Who are her parents?
Seems she doesn't have a good relationship with them. The Mom's
boyfriend lives in the house, the stepgrandfather lives in that house. How come
we never saw the Mom's face in any of the public declarations? Running away
is a big deal. She doesn't like what she sees at home? Does she even have a
good family life? What type of environment are we givign to our children? What
message we sent when we are living with our boyfriends at home? Yes the 55 year
old should be accountable for. It will be great to hear his side of the story.
To me there is a lot of work to do at home.
aghast: You're right who can know what goes through the head of any
thirteen year, be they boy or girl, but a 55 year old man? He really should
have known much better.
I would like to see how this plays out too. What were you thinking?; has got to
be the biggest question. I would never second guess a 13 year old girl, but a
55 year old man? Regardless of the situation I wish this poor girl all of the
best wishes I can, the future will definitely be challenging with this in her
history. May she be able to put the past behind her quickly.
Still, too many unanswered questions.
JayTee, please remember this is a 13 year-old girl. Do you remember what it was
like to be that age? I would have never left without shoes or warm clothing when
I was that age because we lived in a place where the temperatures are -40 in
winter, but I would have done other unwise deeds, comparable to hers. I think
there is much untold in this story, and it is just as well to leave it that way.
Regardless of what else happens this year, this one has to rank right up there
with the strangest stories of 2013. Why in the world would the girl leave in
her pajamas and without footwear or her glasses? The world is full of weird
things these days.