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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 16 2013 10:05 p.m. MST

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JayTee
Sandy, UT

Regardless of what else happens this year, this one has to rank right up there with the strangest stories of 2013. Why in the world would the girl leave in her pajamas and without footwear or her glasses? The world is full of weird things these days.

Nan BW
ELder, CO

JayTee, please remember this is a 13 year-old girl. Do you remember what it was like to be that age? I would have never left without shoes or warm clothing when I was that age because we lived in a place where the temperatures are -40 in winter, but I would have done other unwise deeds, comparable to hers. I think there is much untold in this story, and it is just as well to leave it that way.

Kitenoa
Salt Lake City, UT

Still, too many unanswered questions.

aghast
SYRACUSE, UT

I would like to see how this plays out too. What were you thinking?; has got to be the biggest question. I would never second guess a 13 year old girl, but a 55 year old man? Regardless of the situation I wish this poor girl all of the best wishes I can, the future will definitely be challenging with this in her history. May she be able to put the past behind her quickly.

Shimlau
SAINT GEORGE, UT

aghast: You're right who can know what goes through the head of any thirteen year, be they boy or girl, but a 55 year old man? He really should have known much better.

Why Not
SACRAMENTO, CA

Doesn't sound like a kidnapping to me. It sounds more like a runaway. Perhaps crime was involved, but it was definitely not a kidnapping.

smarty pants
Herriman, UT

It would be really nice to know more about her family. Who are her parents? Seems she doesn't have a good relationship with them. The Mom's boyfriend lives in the house, the stepgrandfather lives in that house. How come we never saw the Mom's face in any of the public declarations? Running away is a big deal. She doesn't like what she sees at home? Does she even have a good family life? What type of environment are we givign to our children? What message we sent when we are living with our boyfriends at home? Yes the 55 year old should be accountable for. It will be great to hear his side of the story. To me there is a lot of work to do at home.

UtahBruin
Saratoga Springs, UT

I agree that there is no excuse for the 55 year old man, he should have known better. But don't let this girl slip by just because she is 13. She is old enough to know right from wrong no matter what the circumstance of her voluntarily leaving her home. There is a reason she is "subdued", quiet and has taken so long to talk to the police. There is much more to this story than we know. She is in no way a victim here, it is not like she was held against her will. Being dropped off in a ditch for a couple of hours, where she hid herself is ample time to go find help, especially when you are near a grocery store. She needs to come clean with the real story and be held accountable for her actions also, even as a 13 year old. This is the problem with our society, we let our kids slip by and do not hold them accountable. Let's hold her as accountable as the 55 year old for her actions. I am very interested to hear the real story of it all.

Millsap fan
Taylorsville, UT

There is the possibility of serious issues at home which she feels trapped in. I worry about her home life too if sitting in a ditch for hours seems more appealing

deeisme
Canada, 00

The police have released as much information as they can at this point but have said the community “will want to pay attention”.

Quotes:

"significant" premeditation went into the kidnapping, Salt Lake County Sheriff Jim Winder
Brooklyn called Garcia on a cell phone that Garcia had provided her, according to jail records.

The nature of the kidnapping is a "scary situation," serving as a warning to families, Winder said.

"It is a complex case, and it's a case I think the community will want to pay attention to," he said. "It does have repercussions for all of us in this day and age about how our children communicate with and interact with adults given the nature of our society."

These quotes tell me the police likely believe this girl was groomed. Some of the best perpetrators/abusers groom their victims so they are compliant. As a victim it seriously messes with your head because you willingly participate in your own abuse which makes it extremely difficult to place blame where the blame belongs because your abuser was never mean or forced you to do anything. How do you explain that to yourself or to anyone else?

RN4moms
Bountiful, UT

Both the girl and her stupid kidnapper need to be held accountable. Many people risked their own safety and well-being to say nothing of sacrifice to their own families to search for her, assuming she was an actual kidnapping victim. Then, when you add the distress they caused, there should be serious consequences for all involved.

Go Big Blue!!!
Bountiful, UT

If you are 50 something and you give your phone number to a teenage girl and then pick her up and take her to your home at night . . . you have some serious lack of judgement issues.

wrz
Ogden, UT

@Nan BW"
"I think there is much untold in this story, and it is just as well to leave it that way."

We need to know it all. The whole story needs to come out. This poor 55 guy faces some serious issues for, who knows, perhaps keeping a young girl alive and out of harm's way.

@Shimlau:
"You're right who can know what goes through the head of any thirteen year, be they boy or girl, but a 55 year old man?"

It's generally called hormones.

In any even, the girl needs to come clean... tell all. Why did she leave the house? Was it under duress? Did the guy do anything untoward? Etc., Etc. She owes a lot to alotta people.

Rico Suave
Santquin, UT

We don't know everything nor do we have the "right" to know everything. Everyone is curious. Heaven knows I did some pretty stupid things at that age. It just didn't get on the news. Thankfully.

What we really should take out of this is that we need to counsel with our kids about the dangers that adults can pose. There are a lot of predators out there and it's getting worse.

Alfred
Ogden, UT

@Go Big Blue!!!:
"If you are 50 something and you give your phone number to a teenage girl and then pick her up and take her to your home at night . . . you have some serious lack of judgement issues."

Don't be too harsh and judgemental. There are many important people including politicians and movie stars who hob-nob with younger opposite sexes.

deeisme
Canada, 00

How about we consider the police likely know what they are talking about? The police call this a KIDNAPPING and say "SIGNIFICANT PREMEDITATION" was involved. People need to quit pointing fingers at the VICTIM in this case and realize that in placing blame on the victim you become part of the problem. I get that it doesn't make sense but the pointing fingers at the victim has to stop. Please read again how the police describe this situation and also understand they can only tell the public so much.

If this girl comes from a difficult background (info about that has not been released) that would simply make her prime to be the perfect VICTIM! The police say based on the evidence available to them (which I suspect is more than the minute amount released to the public) that this girl is a victim, who are we to say otherwise? It may take years for this young girl to understand the intricacies of what happened, she is all of thirteen. We do not need to make that process any more difficult for her by blaming her for what happened.

Shawnm750
West Jordan, UT

@RN4moms - Regardless of whether this girl went willingly or not, because she's only 13 years old, it's still considered a kidnapping. A 13-year-old girl has NO business running off with a 55-year-old man. I'm sure all those volunteers are glad that she's safe, regardless of the surrounding circumstances. We don't know all the details yet, so before we dole out punishments and consequences, let's wait until we know all the facts. This girl's run away before, so there may be other issues, and it may be that she could do with some counseling rather than punishment. All I'm saying is, let's not be hasty or preemptively judgmental.

deeisme
Canada, 00

Let's try reading what has been actually stated and quit minimizing what happened. This guy did not simply give her his phone number . . .

Jail records state that:
- Brooklyn called Garcia on a cell phone that Garcia had provided her

According to Salt Lake County Sheriff Jim Winder:
- "significant" premeditation went into the kidnapping"
- "The nature of the kidnapping is a "scary situation," serving as a warning to families"
- "It is a complex case, and it's a case I think the community will want to pay attention to"

The police are not making the statements they are making just for the heck of it. The community/public needs to do precisely what Sheriff Winder had suggested and pay attention to this case (which he describes as complex, so let's stop trying to simplify what we little we do know) and let the "scary" nature of this situation serve "as a warning to families". Do you really think Sheriff Winder is issuing such statements without good reason? We just need to trust that the people who have more info than we do know what they are talking about and are cautioning us for good reason.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

Wow. With all the know it alls on this and other forums, they can do the police work, fill in for judge and jury, and wallow in involving themselves in something that they have no business in. Isn't life grand?

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Stop publishing her picture. Stop printing her name. She's only thirteen years old! How often do you publish the picture, complete with name, of other minors? How in the world is she expected to re-establish any kind of normal life when the newspapers use her to sell their products?

It's time to treat a minor as if she really is a minor.

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