If you're active LDS don't make the same mistake my wife and I did and
go see the play. After seeing an interview from Stone and Parkeaye here they
said they had nothing against the church and actually really respected the
church, I thought it might just be a more adult version of Saturday's
Warrior. Nope. The first 20 minutes were very entertaining with elders singing
songs in the MTC. It all went downhill from there. It wasn't just me.
The lady sitting next to me said all the f-words and lampooning of Jesus and
religion was too much for her, despite her not liking Mormons. It wasn't
just that it's ridiculously over-the-top crude, the plot is stupid and the
second half makes you wonder if they only had a concrete script for half a play
because the story goes everywhere. I feel like the kid that announces the
emperor has no clothes - the play is not entertaining folks..We went
to the Manhattan temple the next day and had a way better time.
Normal Guy, why didn't you walk out?I am what people call a
less-active Mormon and I would never give these two guys a dime of my money.
Anything that makes a mockery of something others hold sacred isn't funny.
In a time when we are asking people not use all kinds of words because they
hurt, it is sad the public allows this so-called benign play to go on with not
criticism.On a good note, any publicity is good publicity, so in
that sense, thanks for the missionary opportunities.
I saw the musical and loved it. I even bought the soundtrack. If it comes out in
a theater near me I would definitely like to see the "big screen"
version. But I would agree with the commenters above, if you are active LDS
don't go see it.
This is bigotry parading as entertainment. I'm disappointed it has made it
this far without someone or some group putting up a fuss. If the same play had
been written about another minority, it would have been run out of town.
Let's call it for what it is and stop the sugar coating.
Done deal, I am not going to go see it as a play, or as a movie. Thanks Normal
Guy and just-a-fan.
@FatherofFour,So what was it about the play that you
"loved"? The language? The depictions of LDS as "loveable
idiots"? The putdowns of God and religion? I'm perplexed that a
"father of four" loves such entertainment. I'm sad at the potential
passing on of such values to another generation. What we need is more respect,
and a love of humor that is not at someone's expense (lots of other areas
to explore here...). You may someday rue the loss of some boundaries in your
life when you see it reflected in your kids and grandkids.
From what I've seen of these guys' work, it really is (in that
reviewer's word) "puerile." I'm no prude and can easily
handle cursing here and there. But when it's used as a style in itself, it
gives the "creators" the easy way out by keeping the audience's
attention with shock value rather than artistry.I think these are
the times we live in: the numbness of current life, shattered for a moment here
and there by in-your-face entertainment.Perhaps the missionaries in
this show are "lovable"--but only as naive little kids are lovable. It
demeans what Mormons (not just missionaries) can be, and often are.I'm thinking now of Robbie Parker, the father of one of the victims of
the Sandy Hook tragedy. In his deepest grief he expressed compassion for the
family of his child's killer. I'm sure he was like that as a
missionary too.This isn't naivete, it's great spiritual
depth, and from a very young man. Does anything Stone and Parker offer show any
such depth?--in anyone? I'd take the company of Mr. Parker over them any
@eastcoastcoug,Please understand that your beliefs are not my
beliefs. The language didn't bother me, I expected it from the "mature
audiences only" warning. It wasn't anything worse than what I heard in
the army. I have four daughters, but I didn't take them to see it. It is
repeatedly stated that this is not for children. I did find it hilariously
funny. I grew up in an all Catholic community and they were just as sensitive to
"humor with an edge" towards them as well. Which is why I mentioned that
if you are active LDS you should not see this musical. At the same time, if Trey
Parker and Matt Stone had targeted Muslims, athiests, or liberals with their
musical (instead of Mormons) everyone here would be defending them and lining up
to support them.
LDS people know how to laugh at ourselves, we do road shows and make movies
about ourselves; the bad language in this production is dumb and boring and
dull; just using the same bad language is not creativity; I feel the same way
about all of Spielbergs movies; he is fascinated by certain swear words; they
always need to be there. The "most creative" artists are becoming the
most boring in their language.
to eastcoastcoug The values that fatheroffour imparts to his
offspring are strictly his business.Parker & Stone lampoon
everyone and everything under the sun. Their body of work outside South Park IMO
leaves much to be desired.to christophReally!? I've
seen the attempts @ improv by students on byutv. It makes Will Ferrell appear
Mister J,It becomes everyone's business when kids are raised in
an environment that demeans others or teaches hate - otherwise I have no opinion
and really don't care. I've lived in many countries and cultures and
what makes it work is when we respect others and teach that to our kids. I stand
by my statement that "loving" that kind of entertainment is not good for
I don't like rated R musical movies.
Can't leave the church and leave it alone. Thanks for the heads up on the
Serious talent and ability have been replaced with goofy exhibitionism and cheap
gimmicks in our society now. We have so-called musicians with no musical
ability or awareness, and we have people who claim to be entertainers wasting
our time with vulgar displays of absurdity that are evidently meant to be
humorous. We also have politicians who betray the public trust while constantly
distracting the populace with inappropriate and misplaced side shows. Welcome
to 21st Century America.
@eastcoastcoug,Thanks for your excellent point. It truly does
become everyone's business when kids are raised in an atmosphere where
demeaning and hatred of others is considered acceptable--and even
"entertaining."Those kids bring these toxins into the world
we all share.Certainly we can raise our kids to think for
themselves, and to have opinions that may differ from the majority, and even
from their parents. Indeed that's what creativity often springs from.But we have to show them, by example, that creativity at the expense of
demeaning/hating someone else is never worthy of us, and can only lead--as all
poisons do--to spiritual, if not physical, death.And how can anyone
keep living and creating if they're spiritually dead?
Meanwhile, 4 million poor Africans have received access to clean water and
millions of children in Africa have received vaccinations as a result of LDS
humanitarian efforts in Africa.Yea, let's make a movie mocking
Mormon missionaries in Africa. Good idea. Only Hollywood film-makers
can be so arrogant.
To jtweav,FYI.Matt and Trey were never LDS. Your statement is just silly.Isn't missionary work a form of
bothering others? Why can't the LDS church leave people alone? If you
agree with prosetlyzing why are others not able to share their side of the
What a waste of time and money. Perhaps this is why well researched
documenteries, and productions such as Downton Abbey have captured the
appreciation audiences world wide.
Mocking anyone's religious beliefs or race is bigotry and will not be
tolerated. Except Mormons.
Even though this play is crude, vulgar, and makes a mockery of things which LDS
folks hold sacred, I like to try to focus on the good that can come out of this,
such as: When non-members see how well the LDS (as a whole) take it in
stride and don't raise a stink about it or threaten the producers, etc., it
is a positive reflection on the LDS faith, and is a good example of how other
faiths and groups should handle this type of thing. In spite of Stone &
Parker's ridiculing and making fun of different religions, at least they
apparently like LDS folks and think that they are good people. As others have
pointed out, it does provide some publicity for the faith, even though it's
very much a "two-edged" type of publicity. The only thing that
particularly concerns me about this production and a possible movie, is how its
success reflects an overall trend in modern society towards humor and things
which are crude, vulgar, and disrespectful/demeaning which seems to getting
worse with time. Clean, witty humor is the best, most intelligent humor, in my
@eastcoast"It becomes everyone's business when kids are
raised in an environment that demeans others or teaches hate"And
you gleaned this from fatheroffours comment that he saw the musical "and
loved it"Jump to conclusions much?
Funniest musical I have ever seen! If you are Mormon and cannot laugh at
yourself, do not attend! Do not take your children, this is not intended for
youth. Take it as it is, a parody, nothing more! Best $180 I ever spent in New