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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 16 2013 3:50 p.m. MST

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atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Sales taxes are regressive, they disproportionately affect the people who spend a higher percentage of their income each year, which is the poor.

Shawnm750
West Jordan, UT

@atl134 - No, they would be spending the same proportionate amount as anyone else. Plus, by going with a sales tax only model, the poor would receive more of their income back, just like everybody else and not have to wait until they file taxes. Besides, under this model, the poor could still be charged a lower rate.

I wholeheartedly agree that the income tax model for this state & country need to be revamped. A sales tax only model would give consumers more control over government spending as well as market prices. If tax rates get too high, people stop spending, so either the government has to lower taxes to boost it, or businesses have to lower prices, or both taxes and prices will have to be lowered. Plus, we won't have to file income taxes and go through the whole mess of figuring out exemptions and deductions. I think it's definitely something that should be considered at all levels of government.

Grundle
West Jordan, UT

Maybe we should only have property and capital gains tax.

All taxes come from properties or capital gains.

All taxes.

No income tax, no sales tax, no payroll tax.

Then let the states support whatever programs they choose with a mandated infrastructure and defense budget.

Then, only allow property owners to vote. No one else.

Wonder what kind of world we would end up with?

I bet the states would look a lot different.

Just wondering.

The posting limits and word limitations prevent this idea from becoming too much fun...

jsf
Centerville, UT

Corporate income tax is a hidden tax paid by the consumer. Sales tax is paid by the Consumer, but is not hidden. The sales tax will not be anymore burdensom to the poor than the hidden taxes in the goods they buy now.

Juan Figuroa
Seattle, WA

I left Utah for Washington, and state income tax played a pretty significant role in that decision. The burden of income tax is more than financial. It's also an anvil hanging over my head year round, both for the P.I.T.A. of actually filing the tax forms, and the complexity of purchase decisions. "Is this deductible?" "Is that deductible in this state, but taxable in that state?" "What's my tax rate?" "Should we be a two-income family, or are we paying so much in taxes and costs-of-working that it's actually cheaper to just stay home?" Washington State has a sales tax (except on unprepared food) and property tax. It's just so much less complicated.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

At risk of sounding heartless, why do we have any progressive taxes, or taxes higher or lower for one group of citizens than another? Unless you are committed to a socialist state?

The "Poor" benefit from a huge number of programs but pay very little of their income in taxes of any sort, and often get cash back from various "refundable tax credits" or "earned income tax credits." (Many of which are riddled with fraud.)

If you want to have gas taxes to help pay for highways, remember that "the Poor" benefit from the trucks that bring their food, not just rich folks on vacation in their massive RVs.

Everyone should pay the same percentage of their income in taxes, from those who make almost nothing, who will pay almost nothing, to millionaires who will pay huge amounts. This can be from a sales tax, or from a flat income tax. No special tax breaks to benefit certain classes, or special punitive taxes on those who work, save or invest.

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Government revenue isn't the problem. Spending is.

Whether they take it from my front pocket or my back pocket. We all pay.
This is typical "smokescreen" to divert from the real problem of out of control spending.

6 figure government salaries. U.S. troops in over 90 countries. Billions down the black hole that is the U.N.

How much would we save if we eliminated the IRS entirely? What Congressperson would go along with it? They all have their favorite forced charity.

Forrest
Natchitoches, LA

Louisiana does indeed have a sales tax on food. Although it is exempt from the state sales tax (a four percent tax), local sales taxes--which range statewide in Louisiana from 3.5 to 6.99%, depending on the city and/or parish--still apply to all food purchased in Louisiana.

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

I favor a flat tax on disposable income. But because disposable income can't be quantified, the right kind of progressive tax most closely approaches that. I think that a low corporate tax is good. Companies generate jobs. Capital gains taxes are good. The companies are really owned by the stockholders. Tax the companies on the level of the stockholders when they sell the stock.

I think that the mortgage rate deduction should only include the first $300,000 of house. So I can't get a subsidy on buying a McMansion.

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