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Dick Harmon: BYU football brass must try to make Ty Detmer part of Cougars' rebuilt offensive staff

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  • stereowiseplus San Tan Valley, AZ
    Jan. 26, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    If the BYU brass are serious, then Holmoe and Mendenhall will both go out there together and ask what it will take to make it happen!!! With the rebuilding of the offensive coaching staff....we need Detmer to coach the QB's! With Detmer as a QB coach, there would be no LDS QB in the nation that we would want but couldn't get. He could easily be successful at developing our QB's unlike we have been lately. And he could also give some input on returning BYU to the offensive power we sed to be. He's only been around this style of offense his whole life! Let's get it done!!!

  • sls Columbia, MO
    Jan. 19, 2013 4:51 p.m.

    Detmer would have been a much better choice than Roderick (who served as passing coordinator for the worst passing team in the PAC12). Detmer knows the passing game.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 4:41 p.m.

    Dick said, "On the other hand, Mendenhall, I believe, has given Anae total control over who he assembles to coach BYU’s offense."

    Ummm...I don't think anyone believes that for a second. I think everyone knows that Tom Holmoe gave that control to Anae when he hired Anae back to clean up Bronco's huge mess and to get Bronco's offensive ineptitude completely out of the offensive side of the field. Thank heavens too!!!

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:27 p.m.

    I'd love it but I think he's enjoying his life now without the pressure.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:42 p.m.

    Detmer won't get hired because Anae and Mendenhall's egos won't let it happen. They don't want to be overshadowed. Besides, Ty would make more money than Anae in order to come to the Y.

    Ty would be an excellent recruiter for the Y. His temperment is such that we would get along well with fellow coaches and the players. He always took his O Line to dinner. I saw them at the Brick Oven many times. He also knows how to win. He's also a good teacher. He also is competetive and really hates to lose. His most positive aspect is, he's absolutely a football genius. He read defenses better than any Y QB before or since.

    Hall? Not a chance. He'd be no better than Doman. He also doesn't have any experience. I hope Anae is not that stupid.

  • Blue Rampage Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    Dick nailed this one hard. As usual, Harmon got it right from all angles.

    I would only add that some people could feel threatened by Detmer's presence and the shadow he would cast over the program. The Head Coach is usually the center of attention and conducts all of the interviews. Having fans and media constantly seeking out Ty Detmer could be problematic. But on matters of leadership, of which Bronco is a regular student, great managers are comfortable enough in their own skin to surround themselves with individuals who add talent to the team.

    Let's hope all egos are in check and that someday, somebody can build a compelling case for Ty to consider making a move back to Provo. If nothing else, Bronco might find another outdoorsy buddy with whom he can spend some nights by a fire discussing the finer points of offensive football.

    Rally behind the idea of a dream team and maybe someday our wishes will come true.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Jan. 17, 2013 7:51 a.m.

    There's some superficial appeal to bringing in Detmer, but there's another reason for him to stay where he is, or at least avoid working for BYU in particular. One word: Expectations. We all remember Early 90's Ty, and that's what we'd kind of expect, albeit in coaching form. When he inevitably loses a couple of games, reality would set in and the shine would be off the penny. Seriously, if Detmer was hired, he'd be competing with his own ghost with very little margin for error. Maybe as an assistant he'd be out of the line of fire, but fans and boosters would start calling for him to take over the minute things go sour.

    And Steve Young? Come on. That's just fantasy world stuff. Do we have any idea if he (1) is interested in coaching, or (2) would be a good coach? There are tons of examples of former great athletes who tried coaching and bombed. It takes more than name recognition, and we know nothing about Young's abilities.

    Bottom line: You don't hire a coach as a PR move.

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    Jan. 17, 2013 12:53 a.m.

    We've heard this clarion call before - "if only BYU would just ask, Ty would come." I think they have, and he's said no. There is zero upside to him coming to BYU. Zero.

  • Benhur Everett, WA
    Jan. 16, 2013 9:45 p.m.

    A big YES for hiring Detmer. Not sure Anae ego could handle that though.

  • Making Sense Herriman, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 8:16 p.m.

    As a life-long Cougar fan I would love to see Ty Detmer as part of the program. It would be a great fit for BYU and his family. However, knowing how fickle and short-sighted we BYU fans can be, I would hate for his mystique to be tarnished because of impatience or unmet expectations.

    And how long is Chris B going to be allowed to continue his negative posts that are obviously submitted to antagonize others? There is nothing thought-provoking or constructive about his statements.

  • sg newhall, CA
    Jan. 16, 2013 6:04 p.m.

    Doman needs to go. Max Hall? Why? That would be a mistake. He was a marginal QB. How about getting someone that has years of experience and frankly is Mormon. Why is it that we have to hire Mormons? I'm surprised Calhoon is gone. Why? And to bring back Anae? That's like eating too much, throwing up, and eating it all over again. Anae's offense was offensive, boring and lacking. Isn't that why he was fired to begin with? Bronco is surrounding himself with guys who will never replace him. Here we go with another lousy, boring, offensive season.

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 5:38 p.m.

    Ty is an amazing man, and if he came back to BYU, he would not fit in. There is so much going on under the wire at BYU, that we the public do not see, how in the world, is a good-hearted, clean, funny and uplifting person supposed to fit in the BYU Athletic Department?

    Anae runs out on BYU, can't handle whatever, coaches, relationships, players, and then comes running back after we see a complete deflation of the offense. What gives us an idea it will be different?

    The only way I see BYU really turning an offensive corner, is if they all get along, see eye to eye, and have harmony on the team, which seems to be lacking when Anae is at BYU. Am I missing something?

    Back to Ty. I only want him back if he can be in complete charge, either as head coach, or as Athletic director. Anything less than that is a slap to his legacy. Also, it wouldn't take long for half the fans to hate him for something, and I'd rather keep a good feeling toward him, and not see him dismantled by fans.

  • azjim GILBERT, AZ
    Jan. 16, 2013 5:09 p.m.

    Ty all day, every day. Ty Detmer is the extra strength Ty-lenol needed to cure the Cougar's offensive headaches!!!!!!

  • Mighty Mouse Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 16, 2013 5:03 p.m.

    Amen Brother Harmon.

  • bdckpakccd Plano, TX
    Jan. 16, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    There is no question that Texas high school football is something special and the stuff of legend. Having attended BYU during the glory years (including the '84 National Championship year), I have seen what Bronco is shooting for. Having been heavily involved in the winningest team in Texas high school football over the last 50 years (Plano Sr. High School) in the booster club and with 3 sons on the team over the years----I've gotta say, Ty, stay in Texas. The football is better. The weather is better. Even though high school coaches work CRAZY hours (90+ during football season), the fans are awesome and you have such an opportunity to directly impact the young men on your teams. You don't want/need all the ballyhoo that accompanies NCAA football and the almost certainty of being fired at some point. You're walkin' in tall cotton right where you are----stay.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 4:05 p.m.

    It wouldn't happen until Bronco is gone. Even then, for all the reasons indicated above, he would not come to BYU on a full time basis. Perhaps there is a chance that if Anae is hired as HC, he might be persuaded to be OC. I believe OC would be a better fit than even QC. He would be great at either. Don't hold your breath - it probably ain't gonna happen.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:55 p.m.

    @RBN
    Deseret News article today on Roderick's move from Utah to BYU.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:28 p.m.

    With the other "experienced" candidates they've interviewed, no way on Detmer. I don't think there's any way/reason he'd want to leave the very comfortable lifestyle of his ol' Texas home. And Harmon failed to make a credible justification of why such option would even stand a chance. This was a nice low-lying fruit article.

  • Old49erfan West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:21 p.m.

    Why would Ty want to leave Texas and the paradise he enjoys there? In a recent interview he sounded like he is very happy coaching a championship high school team. He never struck me as a person with an ego that would seek such a change. Although I believe his personality would fit the "Coach Edwards" pattern for success at BYU.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:09 p.m.

    Hiring Detmer sounds nice but I doubt it's going to happen. Why?

    Detmer is a mellow guy who by all accounts is happy where he's at. Why would he want to give all that up to be an assistanct coach? Money? He doesn't really need it (he could sell his 2,000 acre hunting rance if he wanted cash). Fame? He's already got it. Plus, overshadowing Anae would indeed happen (deservedly so or not) the instant BYU started to lose (if that were to happen).

    IF Doman is not re-hired to coach the QBs Anae will hire Max Hall.

    Hall has neither a boatload of money or fame (success) and though he may not care about money he sure does want success.

    I think Max Hall would be a great fit.

    We'll get it figured out.

    GO COUGARS!

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    You it the nail squarely on the head.

  • Thinkman Provo, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 2:43 p.m.

    Bringing in Detmer would be too big a distraction and overshadow Bronco. If Detmer was hired by Bronco, fans would very soon be calling for Detmer to replace Bronco if the Cougars go 7-5 or worse in 2013.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 2:17 p.m.

    If Ty was part of the coaching staff, we would never lose a game.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 2:15 p.m.

    soccertodd was right. THe other paper reporting Roderick is headed to the Y.

  • sky2k1 Provo, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:57 p.m.

    Maybe one day when Steve Young is done with ESPN and doesn't want to use his law degree, he could come here. That would be one of the few cases bigger than getting Detmer. It's also next to impossible on the likelihood scaled.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:56 p.m.

    Not to mention opening up recruiting in Texas.

    Remember also that some of his kids are near College age and will most likely attend BYU.

    Make it happen Anae....

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    @kdssoccertodd

    Who's reported that Roderick is moving to BYU?

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:38 p.m.

    Another great choice that is not available would be Steve Young.

    I'm hoping one of these days that sportswriters will be satisfied with actually reporting the news and not speculating what it may, can, could, should or ought to be.

    But I guess the Utah trolls need yet another opportunity to bash BYU.....goal accopmlished.....

  • SoCal Roger Costa Mesa, CA
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:36 p.m.

    My dream would be to have Ty caoch the quaterbask at BYU, but I think that would be up to the OC.

    Besides, I think Ty does not want to leave Texas.

    I guess we all can continue to dream.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:16 p.m.

    No, Chris, but he'd have to put up with the occasional Ute fan who thinks they matter more than they do.

    I love the idea of Detmer. Who else has the experience he does and is LDS? Part of a good leader is grooming your successor. Ty could run the whole show some day as easily as Sarkisian or others have done coming up through the ranks. So far our "Wow" factor has been for the wrong reasons. Ty would be a positive one.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:15 p.m.

    It would be a coup for the Cougs to land Detmer. But, realistically, why would he want to work with a plodder like Anae? Does he really want to go on the recruiting trail? Would BYU spend enough money to make the job enticing, and, if so, does Detmer overshadow Anae? I think Anae has had his fill of being overshadowed (i.e. Doman).

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:12 p.m.

    Detmer is happy and same with Danny Ainge. He will not come and if I am wrong, let me know.

  • ldsoccertodd Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:08 p.m.

    @ Chris B

    I guess Roderick didn't get that same memo Ty Detmer did. Leaving a "prestigious PAC-12 University" for BYU.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:03 p.m.

    RE: Chris B.

    "My guess is Detmer knows he'd be working with WAC talent with byu fans' demands of BCS success."

    I don't know if "WAC talent" would be an issue for Detmer, who was awarded the Heisman trophy while playing in the WAC.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 12:36 p.m.

    My guess is Detmer knows he'd be working with WAC talent with byu fans' demands of BCS success.

    Sorry, those two don't match up.

    I'd politely decline as well Ty. Good call.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 12:34 p.m.

    I'm glad to read that an esteemed writer voices strong support for hiring Detmer for all the reasons mentioned in the article!! Ty knows his stuff would, indeed, "bury the needle" for "wow" impact.

    Go get him Bronco and Robert!