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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 15 2013 3:25 p.m. MST

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John Wilson
Idaho Falls, 00

The Book of Mormon is copyrighted. The other books are not. Cutting and pasting parts of the Book of Mormon cannot be legal without specific written authoriziation from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I doubt the Church will authorize the partial use of the Book of Mormon.

LValfre
CHICAGO, IL

@John Wilson

"The Book of Mormon is copyrighted. The other books are not. Cutting and pasting parts of the Book of Mormon cannot be legal without specific written authoriziation from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I doubt the Church will authorize the partial use of the Book of Mormon."

Corporation of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, right?

Canyontreker
TAYLORSVILLE, UT

LValfre "How can it be the most perfect book written when it's been changed and edited countless times?"

Before you can answer this question you have to admit that "countless" is a big exaggeration. Changes have all been documented and the first edition is still available. Second, the most perfect book is only in English as translations into other languages have to be by "idea to idea" rather than "word for word" for the end result to make sense. Ideas and interpretations change and we find better ways to express ideas through language from time to time. Third most of the changes are in the references; chapter headings, footnotes, etc. The Introduction was the latest to change, but the verse itself did not. Third, chapters and verses were introduced in the 20th century. There is current study to see if these verse breaks are in the best places...get ready for another edition.

The Introduction, chapter headings, bible dictionary and footnotes are not considered scripture but only aides.

In any case, nothing has been omitted or added since the first edition and the verse itself has not changed.

Canyontreker
TAYLORSVILLE, UT

very concerned, "there is no in-between when taking the whole of its words and teachings. Some would have us believe otherwise, but the black and white of the printed word will not allow it to the sincere person. The logic follows with Joseph Smith as well, either a prophet or a liar."

It concerns me when we look at things as absolutes, as black and white. This logic would say that all other religions have to be perfect or be a hoax. Yet, we know when we feel truth and good. Wouldn't we want to live in a community of Faiths with active members even of other religions rather than most people lost in atheism?

If you find later in life that your interpretation of the Gospel was wrong, LDS or otherwise, it doesn't make it a hoax, only that your way of thinking of it was wrong. I think the Book of Mormon calls this being "stiff-necked." Read the scriptures each time with a loose neck and opportunity of a different perspective.

"If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report, we seek after these things." Joseph Smith

donn
layton, UT

RE: Canyontreker, If you find later in life that your interpretation of the Gospel was wrong, LDS or otherwise, it doesn't make it a hoax, only that your way of thinking of it was wrong.

A of F 13,"If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report, we seek after these things." Joseph Smith. whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.(Phil 4:8)

The original articles of faith. #8 We believe in the Word of God recorded in the Bible; we also believe the Word of God recorded in the Book of Mormon, and in all other good books. See current #8.
The KJV/3 Nephi Sermon on the Mount. LDS Scholar Dr. Larson finds 12 examples where JS copied the 1769 KJV errors.
Mt 6:13 KJV and 3Nephi 13:13 Both have the doxology, For thine is he Kingdom and power and the glory forever amen. The KJV is based on 9th to 12th century texts. Earlier and better manuscripts do not contain the doxology. Only One example.

atrulson
Bothell, WA

And he inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile(2 Nephi 26:33)

gcrobmd
GADSDEN, AL

The purpose of religion is to find happiness. Happiness is based on love for God, your neighbor and yourself. Religion shows how to live after the manner of happiness. After living two thirds of a century, I have repeatedly seen sorrow that could have been avoided by adhering to the precepts of religion. What were people thinking?

When I became a member of the bishopric of my local ward, I was amazed at how much humanitarian effort goes on behind the scenes. Without an organization, very little would have been done. This is what organized religion does.

Elder Neal A. Maxwell said, you can’t have the brotherhood of man without the Fatherhood of God; try as you might, the results will be cosmetic and will not last. Whether this humanist effort accomplishes much good remains to be seen.

Social studies have shown that religious people are happier and more charitable than others. Why would we choose a path and stinginess and sorrow?

John K
Carmichael, CA

Pure laziness to avoid reading the entire texts.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

I see three problems already.

1) "A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven."

`` a) I believe any member of the LDS Church who's read the Book of Mormon and prays continually for guidance- would disagree with anyone calling this a "worst" part of the Bible.

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2) We LDS believe the Book of Mormon to be a record literally preserved by the Hand of God. Think about that for a second. It includes not only His commandments, but insight into imperfect man and how civilizations fell from righteousness.

`` a) Those imperfections are something God may have intended for us to relate to our own lives like a warning.

`` b) If God lead numerous men through painstaking, even deadly efforts, to bring us truth- then for us to consider part of it "worst" and "not of worth" is absolutely futile.

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And finally, I may feel that only part of a journal is of any worth, but someone else may find value in another part. Removal is NOT an act of preservation!

People can think what they want, but this is not the work of God. It's exactly through acts like this that flaws alter sacred records!

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