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BYU football: Ben Cahoon and Joe DuPaix out, Max Hall interviews for QB coach job, Brandon Doman's future uncertain

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  • AZguy Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 22, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    Interesting about Max Hall. Love the fire, but obviously, it got the best of him.

    In 2010, when Hall was an undrafted rookie, the coaching staff for hte Cardinals took notice of him and he was the most polished QB of the four they had in camp. Does that go back to his BYU training from Doman or genetics from Uncle Danny or he simply was better? If Hall were 6-4 240 - he would probably still be playing on Sundays, but then again he might not have ended up at BYU and would have stayed at ASU like his uncle and grandfather. He was 6-1 200 lbs and two season ending injuries. The AZ O-line was horrible and about got his neck broken.

    Anyway, where did he get those polished QB skills? Did they come from Domans tutalage? Can Max Hall be an effective teacher of those same skills he had? Those are my burning questions. BYU should not hire Max Hall for his PR skills.

  • Just Smiling BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Jan. 20, 2013 2:17 a.m.

    Just a question.....what does Max Hall bring to the table other than emotional baggage and hatred?

  • Just Smiling BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Jan. 20, 2013 2:14 a.m.

    To Tom in LA- with all your remembering (the U didn't go to a bowl) do you also remember that The U beat the Y for the past 3 years? I still find humor in a Y fan that ignores game results by pointing out who did and didn't play in a bowl game, irregardless of the insignifigance of the bowl game or difficulty in schedule.BYU lost to the teams that were better than them and the U lost to the teams that were better than them. Schedule more teams that you can beat and you'll go to a bowl game.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 18, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    My prediction; Anae will be the head coach in two years. I put myself out there. Take your shots. My payoff will only come if and when this prediction happens. Until then, take your shots.

  • Ronald Uharriet SWun City, Ca.
    Jan. 17, 2013 9:26 p.m.

    The team Offense deficit, due to “Bronco decided to stay with Riley no matter what the cost.”
    turned out to be a crisis of depression level economics which must be met with a balanced approach. The coach has to stop spending for favorites at the cost of the bench sitters, the univerity and the fans, while playing the best man, regardless of which party he belongs to.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    @Snack PAC..."Utah was only the third best team in the state in 2012."

    Alright guess Utah was only the third best team in the state in 2012. So that would mean the cougies were only the fourth best team in the state in 2012.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 7:47 p.m.

    @Cougar Claws
    "I like how KSL and DNews reported that this was Bronco's decision. I don't think it was. Somehow I get the feeling that Holmoe made this Anae's decision. This can't be good for Bronco and Holmoe's relationship because of Bronco's decision making being superseded."

    I'm certain you're right and it's because Bronco has decided to finish out his contract (2013 is his last year) and then the team will be turned over to Anae. Holmoe and Anae are former teammates and friends and I think Holmoe has been frustrated wtih some of the whacky decisions Bronco has been making of late (Riley Nelson) and doesn't want to see that continue.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 2:55 p.m.

    I like how KSL and DNews reported that this was Bronco's decision. I don't think it was. Somehow I get the feeling that Holmoe made this Anae's decision. This can't be good for Bronco and Holmoe's relationship because of Bronco's decision making being superseded.

    At the end of the day, winning cures all ills. If BYU meets their potential because of all these changes, they will get all the shouts of praise in the world. If not . . . the ranting and raving against the BYU administration will be heard around the country.

  • AlottaBalatas Centerville, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 2:49 p.m.

    @ Snack PAC

    Whatever "blue colored lenses" work for you . . .

    Wins Last Decade: Utah 7 v. BYU 3 = 70%
    Wins Last Quarter Century: Utah 14 v. BYU 11 = 56%
    Wins All Time: Utah 56 v. BYU 34 = 54% (4 ties)

    Again, if Utah loses BYU is the better team. If Utah wins it's lucky, a fluke, bad officiating, poor QB play or "an upset."

    Keep the upsets coming - Thanks!

    Please post @ me when BYU ties the series, quarter-century, decade, etc. Oh wait, I'll be dead by then.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 16, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    2B

    Upsets happen - see Utah vs Col; Utah vs UNLV; Utah vs NM; Utah vs Wyo; Utah vs CSU; etc.

    Utah was only the third best team in the state in 2012.

    Better beat Weber St next year, or U could drop to fourth best.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Jan. 16, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    @goodguygary "Unless you count Utah as a college football team. But even with Utah, which is no better than any of the high school team in the nation, the other teams BYU played should make up the strength of BYU's schedule."

    So are you saying the cougies can't beat any highschool team in the nation then?

  • GoodGuyGary Houston, TX
    Jan. 16, 2013 1:13 a.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin

    "I remember that BYU played the 3rd-easiest schedule in college football this year. I have to hand it to Bronco: If your goal is to get bowl eligible, that's the way to do it."

    What? Didn't BYU play Boise State (#24), Norte Dame (#5), Oregon State (#10), how can their schedule be "3rd-easiest schedule in college football"? Unless you count Utah as a college football team. But even with Utah, which is no better than any of the high school team in the nation, the other teams BYU played should make up the strength of BYU's schedule.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:10 p.m.

    With an opportunity to get someone like Clark or Petersen who are both experienced and with proven track records, it would be really, really stupid to hire Max Hall to that position. But I also know that Max was Anae's baby and Bronco loved Max almost as much as he loves Riley. So an insane decision to hire Max as QB coach is not outside the realm of possibility.

    I, too, am bewildered by the firing of Cahoon. There was a very noticeable improvement in performance of the receivers once Cahoon took the helm. He definitely made an impact.

    I feel very bad for Doman. He really is a great guy, huge heart, and caring person. He would be very valuable to BYU if he were left on the staff.

    Also, there are a lot of loyalties from the players perspective with regard to the coaches. It will be interesting if any of the players transfer as a result of this shuffling. Having the coach that recruited you suddenly gone from the program will leave a lot of players feeling uneasy about their status--even the heir-apparant starting QB Hill may be feeling pretty uncomfortable right now.

  • Troy06 OREM, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 10:25 p.m.

    Bronco will leave BYU on his own terms after next season.

  • footballisgood Holladay, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:39 p.m.

    Very unprofessional by Bronco. The unwritten rule is that you let coaches go before the national coaches convention because it is there that a ton of programs fill spots! So, by waiting until the week after the convention, Bronco violated that, and in turn cost these guys about 90% of the jobs that they could have been going after. Total disrespect for guys who have worked hard for him.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 9:09 p.m.

    Gotta love Cougar "fan". First Bronco was a genius hiring Doman and all Doman's buddies, getting Riley from USU and creating an environment where Anae left. Now he's a genius for firing Doman and Doman's buddies and hiring Anae back.

    Typical.

  • gtread Sacramento, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 8:17 p.m.

    Paul Peterson is an exceptional up-and-coming offensive mind in college football. The article is incorrect in suggesting that he just completed another year at SUU. In fact, he was the Offensive Coordinator at Sacramento State, which had its best record in a couple decades largely behind Peterson's explosive offense. We need more experienced guys like Peterson on the staff. Give Max a chance to learn before you give him a staff whistle.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Jan. 15, 2013 7:38 p.m.

    It appears that Bronco's judgment was bad when he selected the four men who are now gone largely because he played his friend Riley. Why would we think that now his judgment is now suddely better?

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Jan. 15, 2013 6:47 p.m.

    My bet is the offensive cord has total say over the offensive coaching staff.

  • wahului Stockton, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 6:37 p.m.

    One step forward, two steps back. This is like replacing the wheels, transmission and alternator because the sparkplugs need changing...we don't need to fix what isn't broken!

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 6:14 p.m.

    I hate to see all of this but if you are going to hire a QB coach to work with the offense, hire Steve Clark at SUU. Like somebody said before, the offense and QB at SUU tore it up. Clark also worked with Mendenhall and Urban Meyer. He knows his stuff...

  • Y_is_for_Yale Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 5:57 p.m.

    Why not fire everyone at BYU? Better yet, why not fire BYU? At least, then, maybe Yale will get its "Y" back.

  • Anne26 West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 5:33 p.m.

    Whoever was in charge of play calling in the Boise game should be the one to go. That and whoever decided to stick with Riley, run an option offense, and waste the talents of top wide receivers. BYU had plenty of talent this past season, the problem was they spent the whole year manipulating the offense to suit one player- Riley Nelson.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 5:31 p.m.

    Who am I sir?

    And you're naive enough to believe that the recruiting services always get it right and that many Utah recruits who are rated three stars, should really be two stars, and many BYU recruits who are rated two stars, should really be three stars?

    Only a fan who is truly delusional would implicitly trust the recruiting services.

    What you should really be asking yourself is "how will Utah ever compete with USC, when the Trojans routinely recruit an entire recruiting class of 4- and 5-star recruits?" USC often has more 4- and 5-star recruits in ONE recruiting class, than Utah gets in a decade.

    So pound your chest about minor differences in BYU vs Utah recruiting, if it helps you sleep at night, but just realize, you simply make yourself look ridiculous.

    ---------------

    JohnInSLC

    First Two Years of Independence vs Dependence

    2011 - BYU(10-3) #25 > Utah(8-5) unranked
    Sagarin: #34 BYU > #39 Utah

    2012 - BYU(8-5) bowl winner > Utah(5-7) no bowl
    Sagarin: #26 BYU > #61 Utah

    The overall results speak for themselves.

    SOS and conference affiliation are meaningless if you don't WIN!

  • Born in Provo Logan, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 5:18 p.m.

    Doman must not be interested in the QB coach job; otherwise why would he not the man?

  • Born in Provo Logan, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 5:16 p.m.

    why no Cahoon? receivers catching more passes with him at the helm. this makes no sense to my outside view. Wish we were playing TCU this year; it would be the litmus test for Anae. Anae did well in 2005-07, but really struggled 2008-10. Granted Heaps was QB in 2010. Hope for the best.

  • desnews99 Washington, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 4:40 p.m.

    Clark from SUU coached the only quarterback in the state who is headed to the NFL.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    "The Y will continue outperforming U in overall success."

    little brother:

    You mean, aside from that whole 8-of-11, 3-in-a-row thing?

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 4:27 p.m.

    @mussingaround

    Rather than look at one player; here is the 4 scouting services grade of recruits as of today:

    Rival: U - 1 four star; 21 three star; 4 two star
    Y - 1 four star; 8 three star; 16 two star

    ESPN: U - 1 four star; 25 three star; 0 two star
    Y - 1 four star; 13 three star; 6 two star

    247: U - 2 four star; 21 three star; 4 two star
    Y - 0 four star; 12 three star; 12 two star
    the:
    Scout U - 0 four star; 13 three star; 12 two star
    Y - 0 four star; 9 three star; 18 two star

    Compare all four evaluations of the two recruiting classes and also compare the Sout rating vs the other three services of Utah recruits.

    Less than 4 more weeks until committment day - I know the Utes are hopeful of big news yet to come. Don't follow the cougars as much so not certain; however - good luck except for the one or two left in common!

  • LindonMan Lindon, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 4:13 p.m.

    About two months ago, Holmoe held a conference here at BYU for students to ask questions. I pointed out his comment from the D-News about "chemistry" issues within the coaching staff. He was very surprised somebody quoted the newspapers and was slow to come up with an answer. Right then I knew I had him cornered and that changes were coming in the off-season.

    Holmoe tried worming his way out of quite a few questions that afternoon, but non looked more desperate or pathetic than his answer to mine.

    I'm glad Anae is back. Hope to see some fire power on offense now. For all the naysayers on Anae I have this to say: Look at the offensive statistics from when he was here. Consistent Top 25. We lost some big games yes, but we won a bunch of them too. (PS: Anae can actually beat Utah).

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    This makes zero sense. Both DuPaix and Cahoon were good coaches and perfectly qualified and capable of coaching up good players. I have a bad feeling about this. I really hope Anae chooses coaches that are actually qualified to coach well and not just because he wants to bring on the guys he wants. If there's one thing Coach Anae was known for while he was here it wasn't humility. I hope his pride isn't BYU football's downfall.

    The running backs and receivers were not what was wrong with the offense. BYU went 8-5 because of the QB and offensive line problems. I had thought those had been addressed. It sounds crazy but there is more to coaching than purely X's and O's. Was this really Bronco's decision or was this another 'administrative' decision?

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 3:50 p.m.

    @mussingaround

    Billy Green per Rival 2 star per 247 2 star

    Hapolito Corporan per Rival 3 star per 247 3 star

    ESPN had both rated 3 star however Corporan had a point grad of 78 compared to 74 for Green.

    (After the final signing I will give evidence of how Scout undergrades U recruits (compared to the other three services - part of the reason is because they were (are?) not allowed to watch U practices because they did not adhere to team rules.)

  • JmThms Henderson, NV
    Jan. 15, 2013 3:47 p.m.

    Chris B:

    Hows that inferiority complex workin for ya?

  • GJ Greenwood, IN
    Jan. 15, 2013 3:36 p.m.

    My problem with Doman is that I think he had bit off more than he could chew. If he was going to be the offensive coordinator they should have hired a QB coach. If he wanted to be the QB coach he should have declined the O.C. offer. Aside from that he's a great guy. I still don't understand letting Cahoon go, unless it was his loyalty for Doman that made it impossible to work for Anae, but I can't really see that. All I know is that before he came the receivers dropped as many or more passes than they caught, and after he got there, you rarely saw them drop anything.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 3:11 p.m.

    utahcountyute

    "This is quite the debacle."

    LOL!

    Only a jealous Utah fan would characterize a newly hired offensive coordinator hiring his own staff as a "debacle".

    Can't wait to see your spin when BJ's offense struggles again next season and Kyle has to replace him to save his own job.

    btw, remind us again how many OC's Kyle has had in the last 8 years, including the game of musical OCs he's played with A Rod.

  • Troy06 OREM, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 3:11 p.m.

    Vai Sikahema wrote a story for the Dnews when Bronco fired Anae. He called out Bronco for firing dark skin coaches and replacing them with Caucasian coaches. I stopped reading Vai's stories after that. Question is will Vai now write a complimentary story for Bronco allowing for Anae to return and hire coaches of color?

    We all know Bronco did not fire Robert Anae and Jamie Hill because of race or color.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 3:03 p.m.

    @USAlover

    It isn't about "piling on" Doman, it is about the fact his offense the last 2 years was just not good enough. I supported him on these boards from the time he was hired, I thought he could become a good offensive coordinator, it did not happen. I even posted on here I thought he should get one more year. But the truth is his results were not good.

    None of us knows all of the inner dealings in the program, we hear things, many of us even know some people inside and know some things, but the truth is none of us knows it all. The one thing I do know is that the offense was not good under Doman, for whatever reasons.

    If it is still bad under Anae then we can address that as it occurs, but if it improves, and I think it will, then that is just the way things go. I know Doman is a BYU guy, I know he badly wanted to succeed as BYU's coordinator. Unfortunately he did not.

    We'll see what the future brings for BYU and for Doman.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:51 p.m.

    utahcountyute

    You wish.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    Didn't Cahoon play with Anae. Please, not Max Hall. There has to be an experianced QB coach out there somewhere.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:39 p.m.

    Pile on Doman. It's the fad right now. Mock him, call him names if you want. The dude was a Heisman contender, and played in the NFL. Most of you probably never sniffed a High School locker room. Call him what you will, but...you might want to call him a WINNER because of his own career.

    He probably was only 33% of the problem this year and he'll probably end up being a very good coach in the future.

    BYU fan most of my life but man we are an ignorant, name-calling bunch from time to time.

    Best of luck Brandon. Stick with coaching....

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:38 p.m.

    It seems pretty easy to read between the lines - if the Cougs are interviewing for QB Coach, Doman must be gone also. Meaning it's a clean sweep on the offensive side of the ball.

    Two months ago, BYU fans were calling for big changes of the offensive side of the ball, after seeing our lethargic offense. And now that big changes are happening, I'm reading all these comments about not wanting DuPaix to go, and not wanting Cahoon to go, and not wanting Doman to go. I'm sure they are good men, but in coaching it's all about results - not effort, not being a good person, etc.

    Anae has obviously negotiated for complete control of the offense. Bronco will focus entirely on DC. And in reality we don't have a head coach.

    If the Cougs have a good record the next year or two, I'm pretty sure we'll see Anae as the HC in the near future.

  • lk32 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:38 p.m.

    Very interesting...there has been no official announcement still. Also, a legitimate source told me that Jason Beck, former BYU QB, was flown into Provo Saturday and interviewed with Anae and Mendenhall for a spot on the staff. No mention on that in this article. We can't be seriously considering Max Hall for the QB job, can we? The guy has never coached and has never even put in his time as a GA. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the guy hasn't even graduated with his degree yet. Clark and Peterson, along with Beck, are way more qualified.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:31 p.m.

    reasonableUTE

    Reasonable question, laughable dig aside.

    I personally think the decision to continue playing Riley after he was hurt was the one decision that was inexplicable. I think the major problems with the offense were rooted in the line play, and it appears that Anae may be a step in the right direction for that.

    I think Joe and Ben are collateral damage. Robert was told he could have they guys he wanted coaching offense; he wants other guys.

    The rest is speculation. Shoot, this was speculation.

  • Old Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:31 p.m.

    Ben Cahoon is one one of the biggest studs in the program.

    Maybe he was a threat to Mendenhall to become the next head coach?

    Better to ax any future threat to the throne.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    It's OK guys, Bronco will be gone too after the cougs lose 8 games next year.

    Look for the Williams kid to transfer now too.

    This is quite the debacle. Oh well.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:24 p.m.

    Who am I sir? A jealous Utah troll.

    I noticed that Whitless is sticking with his 25-yo OC, obviously so the Utes will have a ready-made excuse for another losing season.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:15 p.m.

    Who r u?

    "now who will champion those two star recruits"

    per Scout

    Billy Green
    Pos: QB
    Nat'l Rank: #108
    Nat'l Rating: 2 stars

    Hipolito Corporan
    Pos: CB
    Nat'l Rank: #149
    Nat'l Rating: 2 stars

    hmmm, I wonder

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 2:09 p.m.

    Reasonable Ute
    I fully blame Bronco and Holmoe....

    Cahoon Increased the production of the WR's.
    Dupaix increased the production of the RB's even with the worse O-line in the history of College sports....

    So let me get this straight....
    BYU offense was horrible,
    the man in charge (Doman) was the master of the Offensive plan.
    Weber was the O-line coach which produced the worse oline in history

    so Bronco in his "infinite" wisdom get rid of the best Coaches (Cahoon, Dupaix) Weber leaves on his accord, Reynolds "Retires" and Doman Still has the chance to come back?

    Does anyone else see the irony in this?

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    "So, as long as the Y plays football,..."

    The Y will continue outperforming U in overall success.

  • reasonableUTE Provo, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:54 p.m.

    Sorry for some of the Ute fans making up statistics to put down BYU. I still think it's funny that BYU fans brag to Utah fans about stuff when they haven't won in a while. This question is for BYU fans: Do you feel that those people were the root of the problem? Or was it Bronco? Also, Do you feel that Bronco was covering his butt, and/or that he should have been the one to go?

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    Great time to clean house. At least five(assuming domain goes) assistant coaches gone. There will be minimum effect of the current recruits (look at their profiles and see how few have any other option) and it provides a ready made excuse for next years record.

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    re: Craiger

    Since you can't think of anyone better, maybe it's good that you're not the person hiring for the position. Just maybe Coach Anae can think of someone better.

    Good luck to both coaches in finding new positions.

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:38 p.m.

    Cahoon leaving, just makes no sense. Their has got to be some personal conflicts going on there. DuPaix, I don't enough about. Cahoon, still bothers me.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:33 p.m.

    Mr. DuPaix was the recruiting coordinator so when I read of his dismissal I though, "Oh no, now who will champion those two star recruits that have no other offers?" Then the answer was revealed to me. It was his boss that said this year they were going to hold off on the number of early signees in order to get more of the late, highly rated recruits committing late in the process. And it was the boss who then reversed the new philosophy in recruiting only to sign the usual number of early recruits by saying these recruits were just too good to pass up. So, as long as the Y plays football, the two star athelets have hope.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    Not sure why they got rid of Cahoon. That guy is a superstart, CFL or not. Is it possible that he's one of those athletes that is incredible on the field but awful coaching that same sport?

    If it's not that, getting rid of him makes ZERO sense.

    And, I doubt it's the no-coaching-talent issue because Cody Hoffman, who was virtually unheard of signing with BYU as a freshman has rapdily become a future NFL-caliber receiver.

    GO COUGARS!

  • backpacn Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    Chris B

    "Remember how Heaps, Doman, and Cahoon were supposed to create an offensive juggernaut?"

    Sometimes even the best-laid plans don't work out. That's why it's important to learn from your mistakes and move on.

    After handing the reins of his offense to a 25-yo with almost no coaching experience, and seeing the mess that he created out of it, Whitless may be facing the same decision to revamp his offensive coaching staff next year.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:20 p.m.

    Congratulations to Duckhunter and dustman for being able to post comments before the lobotomy case from Salt Lake that shall remain nameless.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:19 p.m.

    I'm nervous about 2013. I hope Anae has sharpened his skills at OC, although I'm not understanding where he schooled for improvement over his last opportunity at OC for BYU. I got so tired of all the predictable plays. If BYU lined up a certain way, it was one play and another way was another play, etc. 4 ways to line up and 4 plays total. The better the opponent, the more predicatable BYU became and they got creamed by teams they should have beaten. I was excited about Doman, but he became the master of the planned/failed QB draw, 20-25 times a game. I hope we are moving forward but I reserve judgement. We'll know about 4-5 games into the season.

  • Disgruntled Nephi, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    Strength of schedule smack? Really? We though U were ready to challenge for the Rose Bowl from day one. I guess not.

  • Stgeorgebyu St. Georg, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin:preseason as well Utah 55 BYU 74 USU 113 All those pointed out to you add up to...not 3rd worst. Do you just make up stats? SOS must not make much of a difference because USU was the best team in Utah this year. Yes BYU won, but anyone serious knows USU was the better team throughout the year, especially when they beat the UTES!

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    This arm chair QB doesn't have a clue what is going on in Provo but it looks like a bigger shake-up than anticipated. I hope it all works out for the Cougs. If it doesn't this time then I think next shake-up maybe should involve a change at head coach. Just sayin.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:11 p.m.

    still up in the air on Brandon Doman? I thought Ben Cahoon was doing fine but I know nothing about football system in football. I sure like to know what Ben going to do or is going back to Canada to play some more?

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:09 p.m.

    "Where did you come up with 3rd worst or is that just an example of Ute math?"

    It's an example of Ute math and lack of deductive reasoning.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    Serenity Now

    "These changes seem reactionary, as though the BYU football program was miles away from BCS success instead of inches."

    You're right, these changes are reactionary.

    Because of an inept offense, one of the best defenses in BYU history and a legitimate chance of playing in a BCS bowl were wasted.

    Cahoon and DuPaix are both great men and I'm sad to see them go, but I don't blame Anae for wanting to assemble his own staff. Hopefully, bringing some new blood into the program will help reinvigorate BYU's stagnant offense.

  • Craiger PASCO, WA
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    AltaHawkFan already responded to Brave Sir Robin's ridiculous SOS assertion. I guess he can now "bravely run away".

    Letting Cahoon go is a HUGE mistake, IMO. Running game disappointed me - good against weak competition but weak against decent teams. Don't know how much of that was O-line problems, which I hope Anae can address. But receivers improved *markedly* under Cahoon! If Austin Collie is ready to quit the NFL and is taking the WR job at BYU, OK. Otherwise, I can't think of anyone better than Cahoon!

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:04 p.m.

    re: ChrissyB

    You're slipping. You're not the first to post on this BYU article. Looks like you tried to make up for it with 2 posts in the first 10 though.

    Btw, how is that offensive juggernaut coming along for the utes ?

  • azjim GILBERT, AZ
    Jan. 15, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    Ty Detmer for QB coach. Make the call to Texas. Get it done.....

  • Me, Myself and I The Promised Land, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:59 p.m.

    I can't believe they got rid of DuPaix. It really makes no sense unless he and Bronco had conflicting coaching philosophies, in which case why did Bronco hire him in the first place. Joe is a class act and a stand up guy he'll find a home somewhere he is truly appreciated. I bet Cal Poly or Navy either one would love to have him back.

    Good luck Joe!

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    re: Brave? Sir Robin

    BYU's schedule was ranked 63rd (compared to utah's 41st ranked schedule) out of 124 D-1 schools. Where did you come up with 3rd worst or is that just an example of ute math ?

  • No U Won't Reality, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    Interesting that BYU had the third easiest schedule, because according to the Sagarin rankings, their SOS ranking was 63. Fairly certain that there are more than 66 teams in college football. But then again, I could be wrong.

  • Aloha Saint George Saint George, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:48 p.m.

    Doman needs to get out of Anae's kitchen. I won't be surprised to see Doman elsewhere if Anae want's to succeed.

    Mendenhall need to get need new DC. Tidwell would be ideal. Works better when HC is NOT OC or DC. It demonstrates too much bias toward one side of the ball. Why side of the ball was best? Case in point!

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    But wait, with all of those CFL receiving yards Cahoon was supposed to help create an offense that was like "the good old days". Guess that didn't happen.

  • Serenity Now Highland, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:37 p.m.

    These changes seem reactionary, as though the BYU football program was miles away from BCS success instead of inches. Both these young position coaches seemed very capable to this outsider/fan, and the learning curve for new position coaches could taken even longer before the offense improves. Hope Bronco and Anae know what they're doing. And I hope AD Holmoe is keeping his nose out of the tent.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:33 p.m.

    @Tom in CA

    I remember that BYU played the 3rd-easiest schedule in college football this year. I have to hand it to Bronco: If your goal is to get bowl eligible, that's the way to do it.

  • rafinsure Elk Grove/U.S.A., 00
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:31 p.m.

    I don't know why Holmoe and Mendenhall decided to give Anae another shot at the same position everyone complained about the first time around.Furthermore, I have no idea why Cahoon and DuPaix were let go. It seemed like the wide receivers and running backs were the only positions on offense that showed any promise last season. It seemed like the problems revolved around an inexperienced offensive coordinator and a defensive minded head coach who made poor decisions in the area of quarterback, and an offensive line that suffered a number of injuries early on. We'll never know though the behind the scenes politics. It just feels like bringing back a former offensive coordinator, demoting the old OC to just quarterback coach, and bringing in inexperienced running back and wide receiver coaches seems a bit odd with the first two decisions seeming a bit retreadish.

  • Billy Budd Saint George, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:27 p.m.

    Bronco decided to stay with Riley no matter what the cost...
    The only people paying for that decision are Joe, Ben and maybe Brandon...
    Interesting.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    I'm not surprised that Joe DuPaix is leaving. Letting Ben Cahoon go doesn't make as much sense though. I'm not sure how much of this is about competence and how much is about chemistry.

    One problem with this whole process is that BYU will probably lose one valuable asset in the long run. Talented Assistant Coaches have been very loyal to the school and that has provided stability. If you clean house every other year, why should anybody be loyal to you anymore? In the end you may be worse off.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:18 p.m.

    "Remember how Heaps, Doman, and Cahoon were supposed to create an offensive juggernaut?"

    Chris B -

    I remember that utah didn't go to a bowl game this year.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:19 p.m.

    I am actually shocked by Roscoe letting Cahoon go. I dont see you getting someone better than him.

    They both seemed like decent recruiters too.

  • dUrrdy-bUrrdz BurdVille, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:18 p.m.

    Glad Atuaia will get the RB Coach gig, he should have got it before Dupaix, but that's the Coaching Job business "It's all abou Who U know!" As for QB Coach, i hope they go with Paul Peterson, he's got a great Track record, I think he even helped Matty Ice while he was at Boston College. Definately don't want Max Hall, he'll go against byu standards of "Love thy Neighbor"..... Hater....... GO UTESSSSSSS!!!

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:17 p.m.

    Max Hall is good, but if hired, please put a gag order on him. We don't need any "classless" fiascos.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:17 p.m.

    Heaps is good, but please put a gag order on him with the press. We don't need any "classless" fiascos.

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:07 p.m.

    Y seems to have a strange system of accountability. We still do not know who was responsible for last year's quarterback and offense fiasco decisions. But I'm pretty sure Cahoon was a bright spot on the offense staff.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:05 p.m.

    Interesting moves. I liked DuPaix and Cahoon. I thought the position players under them progressed well under their tutelage. But I also know that Anae needs his people to form a strong, cohesive offensive staff. Here's hoping that the offensive headaches of the last 2 years are behind us. I like the possibility of Hall as the QB coach. I don't see Doman going from OC back to QB Coach. With him being a bishop, the school/athletic dept can give him another role w/ the school that will allow more time for his calling in the church. Let's go, Cougs!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 12:04 p.m.

    Remember how Heaps, Doman, and Cahoon were supposed to create an offensive juggernaut?

    LOL!

  • dustman Nampa, ID
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:59 a.m.

    Wow. I thought Cahoon would stay. That guy is precision. As far as QB coach, I'd take the SUU guy. They're tearing it up down there. Enough from the arm chair, I'm out.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 15, 2013 11:59 a.m.

    It is sad to see guys lose their jobs and of course none of us really knows how good they were at those jobs. But we do know the offense was very average the last couple of years and of course once the decision was made to re-hire Anae the right thing to do is to let Anae put together the offensive staff he wants.

    I feel badly for those that have lost their jobs but if it results in a better offense then I will have no complaints, that is simply the way things work in major college football. Just improve the offense and win games.

    I do know Steve Clark and I would love to see him get an opportunity to come to BYU and coach. I guess we'll see how it all falls out.