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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 15 2013 5:05 p.m. MST

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VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

And once again, all the little kitty trollers prove how little they have to be proud of in their on little realm.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@vegasute

Bowl win > no bowl at all

Winning season > losing season

Take pride.

LOL!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

I do appreciate the desire of the utah "fans" to avoid the question but I'm gonna ask it again because I just love to see the hypocrisy.

If utah is better than BYU because of recruiting, and BYU has no hope of ever competing with utah because of that recruiting then why is it that utah is going to compete in the pac12 when they are so far behind so many of the other teams in the pac12 in recruiting?

In the recruiting realm based on the star system utah > BYU is much closer than usc/ucla/oregon/standford > utah. In fact based on those rankings utah fell much farther behind the top half of the pac12 than they did for the last few years. How can utah's 3 star mid level recruits ever hope to compete with those other teams 4-5 star top elite level recruits?

Why the irrational exuberence for a recruiting class that by utah "fans" own touted ranking system is losing ground to those they claim to be "competing" with?

Is there an honest utah "fan" out there to answer these vexing questions?

LonestarRunner
Salt Lake City, UT

gonefishn

"The fact you sight the end of year sagarin rankings is silly, you might as well have shared with us that the Y is the better team because you beat the U on your play station."

It's silly that Utah fans so casually dismiss Sagarin's final rankings, yet insist on citing stars as if they're hard core provable facts.

Here's some earth-shattering news for Utah fans. Sagarin's rankings are far more accurate and mathematically provable, than placing random stars next to a 17-year old kid's name will ever be.

Duckhunter is spot on with his analysis and it's quite obvious that even our crimson-glasses wearing friends on the hill can see it, which is why they so doggedly refuse to admit what they already know to be true - that the number of stars next to an individual recruit's name is simply a guesstimate of the kid's potential, with the margin of error for that guesstimate being HUGE.

If stars were even close to an accurate projection, the Utes might as well pack it in, because, based on Utah's cumulative stars, they will NEVER win a PAC 10.2 title.

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

In commemoration of Brayden Kearsley's commitment to BYU today, I just watched his YouTube highlight video of one game from his senior year in which he had 29 pancakes!

Be afraid Utes; be very afraid!

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

troy town

You may want to read the thread before asking the obvious, As swoop asked where Utah ranked against other PAC 12 teams (who cares? off topic); I asked how BYU compared to another independent? Notice I started by posting how Utah and BYU's classes ranked, since there seemed to be so much interest about Utah's class from the usual BYU trolls. BYU fans quickly No one cares to discuss that. I guess it's easier to get the Oregon, Washington's and USCs of the world to fight your battle..

Phoenix

A highly ranked rectuiting class and a buck will get you a cup of coffee. I'd rather have a highlyt ranked class then a lower one though. Over time better athletes, make better players, make a better program. Except for Lane Kiffin of course. Ha Ha

Why are all of you BYU fans so interested in our class? Paranoid or bored? Appers so.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

swoop

Why in the world would I answer the question that we both know the answer too. Why did you leave Colorado, Cal and WSU off your list; that's curious?

Before Utah joined the PAC 12, they were 7-3 vs. the conference with lesser rated recruiting classes. Now with better talent, they will compete quite well. Don't let last year fool you. I hope that answers your question and thanks for confirming that you don't actually support a team, just hate Utah. Lota class there Buddy!

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

Last 3 year 3 wins > 0 wins.

Last 11 years 8 wins > 3 wins.

That's why Ducky. On the field is where it matters.

Enjoy.

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

Spokane Ute

"Why did you leave Colorado, Cal and WSU off your list...?

No particular reason: Colorado and WSU are both bottom dwellers with Utah (WSU is right on Utah's heals as far as recruiting), and Cal stomped Utah the last time they played at Cal and Cal had a better recruiting class than the Utes.

"Before Utah joined the PAC 12, they were 7-3 vs. the conference with lesser rated recruiting classes."

Utah hasn't had a road win against a PAC 10/12 TEAM with a winning record since the 90's and Utah is 7-11 since joining the PAC 10.2 with no improvement in sight.

"I asked how BYU compared to another independent?"

Why is that even relevant?

BYU hasn't played Navy since 1989 (a game BYU won 31-10), BYU has never played Army, and neither team is on BYU's future schedule. Notre Dame always out recruits BYU, yet BYU has beaten Notre Dame in South Bend and in Provo, and only lost at #3-ranked Notre Dame by a FG in 2012.

"thanks for confirming that you don't actually support a team,..."

Two words: READING COMPREHENSION!

I never confirmed any such thing.

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

54-IQ

In 5 of the last 8 years, BYU has finished with a better record and higher ranking than Utah.

Obviously, head-to-head match ups aren't the only thing that matters.

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

Gotta love the record smack when your team plays the bottom half of the WAC every year. Montana has a better record than USC the last 10 years. So what ?

I guess that is all the mighty have left .

LOL

JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

Duckhunter spends a lot of time throwing stones in his glass house. Whoops there goes another one as Johnny Ragin III decommits from BYU and heads to Cal of the Pac-12.

U 90
Corona, CA

Sammyg

Just pointing out the irony in your post. You accuse Utah of not being competitive yet your team can't beat the utes. BYU can however rack up 7 regular season wins against an extremely weak schedule. Congrats

Jealous U
Alpine, UT

54-IQ

It's laughable that Utah fans beat their chest about every Top 25 team the Utes have ever beaten, but then are forced to pretend that actually finishing in the Top 25 means absolutely NOTHING, since Utah has hardly ever managed it.

What a sad, pathetic conundrum to find yourself constantly being forced to spin your way out of.

2011 BYU #25/#26 > Utah unranked
2012 BYU bowl winner > Utah couch potato

Jealous U
Alpine, UT

U 90

BYU racked up wins over #16 Utah State, Georgia Tech, and San Diego State, teams the sorry Utes either lost to or wouldn't have had a prayer of beating.

U 90
Corona, CA

@Jealous U "BYU racked up wins over #16 Utah State, Georgia Tech, and San Diego State, teams the sorry Utes either lost to or wouldn't have had a prayer of beating"

Since 03 Utah has identical or better records than BYU against Utah St, SDSU and GA Tech. Nice try.

But you know as well as everyone else that BYU racked up over half their regular season wins against the likes of Weber State, New Mexico State, Hawaii and Idaho. Woohoo

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Swoop

You are really struggling with the concept. You ask me how other PAC 12 schools compare. I say it's irrealavent. I brought up Utah's class rankings vs. BYU's. Then you ask how Notre Dame's is realavent. Well, it's about as relavent to BYU's as USC's is to Utah's. Of course some PAC 12 schools have a better class, and some don't. It's curious how you didn't mention the ones with a lower ranking though; typical. So let's stay on subject. Who has a better class, Utah or BYU? Quick to the spin cyle.

LOL!

LCBSoCal
Northridge, CA

It's funny to watch BYU fans predicting a dire future for Utah. Some things never change.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Jealous

No, what's truely laughable is how BYU fans flock to Utah threads and try to defend there program against Utah's. Now le't stay on topic. The subject is "Utah's Recruiting Class". Who has the higher ranked class; Utah or BYU? Now don't skirt the question; just answer it. No need to go way off on a tangent. Stay focused Guy!

U 90
Corona, CA

@ Jealous U "BYU racked up wins over #16 Utah State, Georgia Tech, and San Diego State, teams the sorry Utes either lost to or wouldn't have had a prayer of beating"

Yes, BYU beat the Aggies while Utah lost to them, however didn't BYU lose to Utah? So what's your point. Since 2003 Utah has an equal or better record against Utah St, GA Tech and SDSU. So what's your point? Everyone knows that over half of BYU's regular season wins last season came at the hands of New Mexico State, Hawaii, Idaho and Weber State. So why do you and you pals feel the need to come on to a Utah thread to try and validate your team.... insecurity got the best of you?

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