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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 15 2013 5:05 p.m. MST

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Drum and Feather
SLC, UT

I enjoy reading about these recruits but is a Utah homer from a site called Ute Zone really an unbiased source? I'd like to hear what an outside source has to say about this.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I'd like to how how many recruits had offers from Utah, byu, and Utah State and how many kids picked Utah, how many picked byu, and how many picked Utah State.

I think we'd all see that the future of football in Utah,

is Utah.

Fall can't come soon enough! Go Utes!

Ufan
Salt Lake City, UT

I'd like to see how many 4-star recruits end up playing like 2-star players, and visa versa.

The odds are better for a team composed entirely of 4-star recruits to be more competitive than a team composed entirely of 2-star recruits, but there's no guarantee that will always be the case.

USC has 14 players committed for 2013 - every single one of them is rated 4-stars.

Utah has 28 players committed for 2013 - only one of them is rated 4-stars.

JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

D J Dean is no longer listed as a UTE commit. He decommited and is looking at Arkansas and OK State.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

"D J Dean is no longer listed as a UTE commit. He decommited and is looking at Arkansas and OK State."

Que the utah "fans" telling us he wasn't any good anyway and that they really didn't want him.

Utes Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

@Ufan

"USC has 14 players committed for 2013 - every single one of them is rated 4-stars."

Actually, 6 of them are 5-star recruits and 8 are 4-star recruits, according to Rivals. USC's recruiting is ridiculous. The fact that they struggled last years means their coaching staff is bad or the sanctions are catching up to them.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

I love how BYU recruiting smack has changed.

In 2003 it was "haha, you guys can't out-recruit BYU."
In 2013 it's "well, you're out-recruiting BYU...haha, you guys can't out-recruit USC."

If Utah ever does get to the point that they're picking up nothing but 4-star and 5-star kids, BYU fans will be here to tell us how we're not out-recruiting the Chicago Bears.

Y's little brother
Sandy, UT

timid sparrow

BYU fans are simply pointing out how laughably inconsistent Utah fans are in pretending that the Utes are "competing for a Rose Bowl" every year, when it's blatantly obvious that, based on their "stars obsession," the Utes will never stand a chance of ever competing for a Rose Bowl.

The truth is, the stars system is flawed by the incestuous nature of the rating system, which increases stars "awarded" to players based on which schools are recruiting a certain player, so as soon as a team like USC makes an offer to a recruit, his stars "magically" increase.

btw, how many 4-star Utah players DIDN'T play in a bowl last season, while all of BYU's walk-ons and 2-stars were enjoying sunny San Diego?

Stars aren't everything.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

FWIW, lil ducky - DJ was a nice pick up. It is too bad he decided to decommit. He has a desire to play QB more than defense and it has been expected for a while that he would decommit. Perhaps his desire to play QB was his drive, but I don't know. Utah filled his spot quite nicely with Corporan, an equally ranked (and taller) player, so we'll be just fine at CB. I wonder what Davion Orphey's drive was to his decommit from byU?

Thanks for your speculation though, lil one. BTW, where's Fangupo?

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

VegasUte

"DJ was a nice pick up. It is too bad he decided to decommit. He has a desire to play QB more than defense and it has been expected for a while that he would decommit."

Don't be too surprised to see Chase Hansen do the same thing as soon as he returns from his mission to discover that Kyle wants him to play defense.

Christine B. Hedgefog
Meridian, ID

Scared Magpie "If Utah ever does get to the point that they're picking up nothing but 4-star and 5-star kids"

Let me give you several options for finishing that sentence Sir-
pigs will have flown
or
snowmen will be selling snow cones in downtown Phoenix in July
or
Washington State will have played in 20 Rose Bowls
or
Clark Grizwold will have woken up with his head sewn to the carpet

There are many more. Be sure and let us know when that happens, OK Robin?

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Nice try Rockwell - Chase Hansen knows exactly what he is getting himself into and will be a Ute when he comes home. Still sore about Jake Murphy I see! And Star Lotuleilei! And Davion Orphey! And .....

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Also it appears Carlos Henderson, Charles' younger brother, has decided to stay closer to home for college. He and Dean free up two spots with some highly rated players still considering Utah. For most of them, I'd say the Utes are still a longshot, but taking in an official visit has dramatically changed a lot of players' minds before, so you can't rule them out. I would have liked to see the staff go after a placekicker, though

sammyg
Springville, UT

"If Utah ever does get to the point that they're picking up nothing but 4-star and 5-star kids

Brace yourself sir chicken... Utes are not going to rise to the level of recruiting like USC, Oregon or Stanford. To entertain the thoughts of 'if it ever does' is laughable.

What 4 or 5 star recruit would want to play for a team that doesn't go bowling when there are plenty of options on the table?

The best the Utes will ever do is get that occasional recruit that wants to come to Utah for an academic, loyalty or family reason, not because the Utes are competitive. After 2 dismal seasons it's pretty clear where the Utes are going to be in this conference... as many of us have known.

U 90
Corona, CA

@sammyg "The best the Utes will ever do is get that occasional recruit that wants to come to Utah for an academic, loyalty or family reason, not because the Utes are competitive"

What does that say about the fate of BYU's program/recruits when they can't even beat the lowly, non-competitive, Utes?

ScooterZG
Star, ID

Utah and BYU went head to head on 10 recruits. That means fully committable offers, not just interest which I am sure happened with both sides not offering some guys for certain reasons.

BYU commits:

Braydon Kearsley - 4 stars (though his commitment is very much up in the air)
Talon Shumway - 3 stars
JonRyheem Peoples - 3 stars
Trent Trammel - 2 stars

Utah commits:

Lowell Lotulelei - 3 stars (was a 4 star but got bumped down due to him not participating in some camps and Shrine games)
Leroy Tanoai - 3 stars
Davion Orphey - 3 stars (was committed to BYU but switched)
Harrison Handley - 3 stars (BYU legacy)
Sam Tevi - 3 stars
Gains Vaenuku - 3 stars (hasn't committed yet, but Utah is the reported leader and BYU doesn't have much chance if it is to be believed).

So on two ends of the spectrum if Vaenuku goes Utah and Kearsley decommits it would look like Utah 6, BYU 3. If Vaenuku goes elsewhere and Kearsley stays then its Utah 5, BYU 4.

gonefishn
Salt Lake City, UT

The Utes will make it 9 out of 12 this fall against the Y and will get over on them with most recruits but it does not mean much. These recruits need to help the Utes progress in the PAC 12. Beating the Y in anything football related is expected at the U and gaining a quality win in the pac12 is much more important

sammyg
Springville, UT

U90

My comments have nothing to do with BYU as this is a Ute story. I'm simply adding some realism to the delusional post commentary of Utes getting 4 and 5 star recruits.

The truth kind of hurts doesn't it? Get used to be a doormat.

ScooterZG
Star, ID

I might have read it wrong, but he never said Utah would start picking up 4 and 5 star guys at every position every year. He was merely pointing out the fact that when it comes to rivals, the other team will always find ways to criticize the others recruiting class and poke holes in it.

Neither Utah nor BYU will fill their entire recruiting class with 4 and 5 star talent. Every now and then each team will pull in one or two highly talented guys. BYU with highly rated Tanner Mangum and Jake Heaps, Utah pulled in Kenneth Scott and won a battle over Oklahoma and USC for John Cullen.

Facts are, despite our recent mediocre seasons in the Pac 12, Utah is beginning to pull in guys who normally would have chosen BYU. If we aren't able to turn around our current conference woes that trend might not continue but on the recruiting front things are much more rosy from the Utah perspective than the BYU perspective, IMO.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Even when Utah has a horrible year, they still out recruit BYU. It's easy to see why the little fella's down south have so much envy, jealousy and angst.
Current Class Rankings:
Per Rivals: Utah #33; BYU #59
Per Scout: Utah #44; BYU #53
Per 247: Utah #37; BYU #61
There's the cue for Ducky, Rockwell, sammyG, and the other jealous folks to turn on the spin cycle.

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